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_Gator
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Post subject: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:03 am |
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Simple. I was wondering how much would one make with a 0 gap from 92 to 100 with premium + and sp ticket all the way. With premium + alone? Thanks.
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:44 am |
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www.nivlam.com/spDouble it if you use a sp ticket and you only grind those 3 hours (which is weird if you got a prem+). Just add a bit more sp (well...60% more I think if you only grind your 3 hours sp ticket and 5 hours prem+ together, so 5 hour total grind time a day). The prem+ won't increase your sp gain since it both increases exp and sp exp.
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:35 pm |
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doesnt work 
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:50 pm |
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Jaapii
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:06 pm |
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With premium PLUS & ticket if u grind 5h a day: 136,896.2 if u grind from 92; 0% to 100; 0% With premium PLUS alone: 105,304, no matter if u grind 5h,less or more
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:00 pm |
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Are you sure Jaapii? Here's with what I came up with: 92 to 100 0 gap without any ticket: 120,946 SP Premium + (first 3 hours has the SP ticket running, 2 hours just exp) so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567 So 193,513 SP if I grind 5 hours a day...plus the 30k sp = 222,513 SP Anyone else wants to add their 2 cents? Also, I'm pretty sure it would take at least 2 premium + tickets to go from 92 to 100 so I'll add another 30k  253,513 SP
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Jaapii
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:48 pm |
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I think ur calculations are a bit wrong gator, Firstly, u're thinking when having premium PLUS, u'll get 2 times as much sp per lvl, that is wrong, cuz u'll get 2x exp & 2x sp, that'll make u get 2/2 = 1, so the same amount of sp per lvl. Then, when calculating the exp from 92 to 100 (I did it till lvl100 0%, so the last full lvl is 99) I see it's 105,304 skill points, that's the basic, that's what u get when having premium PLUS only. now, 3 of those 5h, u get 3/2 SP, cuz u'll have skill ticket, that means u'll have to divide those 105,304 into 5hours, with 3 of them, u multiply them with 3/2 After that u'll see it's 136,896.2 + another 30k = 166,996.2
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:57 pm |
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Gator is right, sorry Jaapi =p He never double the sp for that prem+ only the 3 hours of sp ticket (the 0.6 in the calculation). Add the 60k sp from the fruit quests to it and bam...You got it =]
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:47 am |
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U don't get double sp when having premium & skill ticket, it's 3/2x sxp 
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:41 am |
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Jaapii wrote: U don't get double sp when having premium & skill ticket, it's 3/2x sxp  That's why he did... _Gator wrote: Are you sure Jaapii? Here's with what I came up with: 92 to 100 0 gap without any ticket: 120,946 SP Premium + (first 3 hours has the SP ticket running, 2 hours just exp) so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567 So 193,513 SP if I grind 5 hours a day...plus the 30k sp = 222,513 SP Anyone else wants to add their 2 cents? Also, I'm pretty sure it would take at least 2 premium + tickets to go from 92 to 100 so I'll add another 30k  253,513 SP He did 120,946 x 0.6 = 72567 (that's the sp you get extra if you only grind those 5 hours of prem+ with the 3 hours sp ticket. We know the prem gives both exp and sp so only the sp ticket doubles the sp. 3/5 hours of sp ticket is 0.6, that's why he used 0.6. Add it up, add the fruit quests and voila...He's right ^_^
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:27 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: He did 120,946 x 0.6 = 72567 (that's the sp you get extra if you only grind those 5 hours of prem+ with the 3 hours sp ticket. We know the prem gives both exp and sp so only the sp ticket doubles the sp. 3/5 hours of sp ticket is 0.6, that's why he used 0.6.
Add it up, add the fruit quests and voila...He's right ^_^ I think u misunderstood the meaning of my 3/2 U're getting another 100% sxp, so u'll get 300% sxp, 200% exp. => 3/2 sp/exp rate So u'll get another 50% skill exp of the skill exp u get normally with premium+ during those 3h. Now, on average, u'll get 3/5 (the 3 skill point hours out of the 5 premium hours) x 120,946 (as u like) x 0.5 (the 50 extra % I mentioned before) which is approximately 36,284 extra skill points u'll get during that time. so in the end u'll get 157,230 purely from grinding. U guys are thinking u get double skill points from skill ticket on top of the premium. It's like this: if u get 200 sxp from a mob with premium plus u'll get 300 sxp with skill ticket. I guess ur thinking u'll get 400sxp then, isn't it? Well I hope u understood it now lulz this is some serious silkroad maths 
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:18 pm |
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The 120.9k sp is without tickets..So doing it times 0.6% gives the sp you get extra from the sp ticket. So I still think Gator is right and you're somehow missing something  hehe Oh and for the record, I know how tickets work  ^_^ Uhm..Now I think about it I would go for the 0 gap sp from 92-99 Since you want to be farmed begin 100 and not end 100 right? o.O
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Jaapii
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:09 pm |
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U get 120.9k sp without ticket as well as with premium PLUS lulz if u would only do skill ticket, ur calculation is correct yea but with premium plus u'll get less sp when keeping the same gap eventually yea. Well u should try it and then tell me who's right 
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:19 pm |
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He's calculating the real double sp (those from the 3 hours sp ticket) inside the prem+
(See the lines: Premium + (first 3 hours has the SP ticket running, 2 hours just exp) so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567)
Aside from that he's calculating it like there is no prem+. I just can't find any mistakes in his calculations, I got the same calculation. Unless we're both missing something.
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:36 pm |
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so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567 I don't get that part Let's think, 120,946 x 1 would be double exp so 12,946 x 0.6 would be like double skill exp for 3h so u're saying u get double sxp on top of the 200% sxp u get with premium+ so u're telling me u get 400% sxp in those 3 hours? Correct me if I'm wrong
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:54 pm |
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Jaapii wrote: so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567 I don't get that part Let's think, 120,946 x 1 would be double exp so 12,946 x 0.6 would be like double skill exp for 3h so u're saying u get double sxp on top of the 200% sxp u get with premium+ so u're telling me u get 400% sxp in those 3 hours? Correct me if I'm wrong The 120,946 sp is what you get regardless of the premium+. The sp you get extra is calculated by the 0.6 because you have 3/5 of the time real double sp (since you're grinding 5 hours with prem+ and 3 of them is the sp ticket). So yes, you do get that on top of the 120,946 sp but it is not 400% sp exp. Tell me if you're Dutch...and pm me your msn if you are. Maybe we can solve this in Dutch haha  I dunno how I could explain it.
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:47 pm |
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Me and XMoshe solved it out and he says I am right But I think u can get more sp (the sp in ur calculation) if u use the skill ticket when ur premium is not active, but u'll have to grind 8h a day then 
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:51 pm |
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:57 pm |
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 I'm talking about me defeating XMoshe and gator! (not about the tits) (maybe a bit about the tits)
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:39 pm |
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That's not epic win, it's out of proportion so it's ugly =[
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Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP? Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:50 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: That's not epic win, it's out of proportion so it's ugly =[ they better photoshop the face imo
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