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 Post subject: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:03 am 
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Simple. I was wondering how much would one make with a 0 gap from 92 to 100 with premium + and sp ticket all the way. With premium + alone? Thanks.


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 10:44 am 
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Double it if you use a sp ticket and you only grind those 3 hours (which is weird if you got a prem+). Just add a bit more sp (well...60% more I think if you only grind your 3 hours sp ticket and 5 hours prem+ together, so 5 hour total grind time a day).

The prem+ won't increase your sp gain since it both increases exp and sp exp.

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 5:35 pm 
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doesnt work :)


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:50 pm 
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The sp gap works now..Same applies ;)

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:06 pm 
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With premium PLUS & ticket if u grind 5h a day: 136,896.2 if u grind from 92; 0% to 100; 0%
With premium PLUS alone: 105,304, no matter if u grind 5h,less or more


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 1:00 pm 
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Are you sure Jaapii?

Here's with what I came up with:
92 to 100 0 gap without any ticket: 120,946 SP

Premium + (first 3 hours has the SP ticket running, 2 hours just exp)
so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567

So 193,513 SP if I grind 5 hours a day...plus the 30k sp = 222,513 SP

Anyone else wants to add their 2 cents? Also, I'm pretty sure it would take at least 2 premium + tickets to go from 92 to 100 so I'll add another 30k :P

253,513 SP


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 2:48 pm 
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I think ur calculations are a bit wrong gator,
Firstly, u're thinking when having premium PLUS, u'll get 2 times as much sp per lvl,
that is wrong, cuz u'll get 2x exp & 2x sp, that'll make u get 2/2 = 1, so the same amount of sp per lvl.
Then, when calculating the exp from 92 to 100 (I did it till lvl100 0%, so the last full lvl is 99) I see it's 105,304 skill points, that's the basic, that's what u get when having premium PLUS only.
now, 3 of those 5h, u get 3/2 SP, cuz u'll have skill ticket, that means u'll have to divide those 105,304 into 5hours, with 3 of them, u multiply them with 3/2
After that u'll see it's 136,896.2
+ another 30k = 166,996.2


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 8:57 pm 
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Gator is right, sorry Jaapi =p He never double the sp for that prem+ only the 3 hours of sp ticket (the 0.6 in the calculation). Add the 60k sp from the fruit quests to it and bam...You got it =]

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:47 am 
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U don't get double sp when having premium & skill ticket, it's 3/2x sxp :)


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:41 am 
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Jaapii wrote:
U don't get double sp when having premium & skill ticket, it's 3/2x sxp :)


That's why he did...
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Are you sure Jaapii?

Here's with what I came up with:
92 to 100 0 gap without any ticket: 120,946 SP

Premium + (first 3 hours has the SP ticket running, 2 hours just exp)
so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567

So 193,513 SP if I grind 5 hours a day...plus the 30k sp = 222,513 SP

Anyone else wants to add their 2 cents? Also, I'm pretty sure it would take at least 2 premium + tickets to go from 92 to 100 so I'll add another 30k :P

253,513 SP


He did 120,946 x 0.6 = 72567 (that's the sp you get extra if you only grind those 5 hours of prem+ with the 3 hours sp ticket. We know the prem gives both exp and sp so only the sp ticket doubles the sp. 3/5 hours of sp ticket is 0.6, that's why he used 0.6.

Add it up, add the fruit quests and voila...He's right ^_^

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 4:27 pm 
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XMoshe wrote:
He did 120,946 x 0.6 = 72567 (that's the sp you get extra if you only grind those 5 hours of prem+ with the 3 hours sp ticket. We know the prem gives both exp and sp so only the sp ticket doubles the sp. 3/5 hours of sp ticket is 0.6, that's why he used 0.6.

Add it up, add the fruit quests and voila...He's right ^_^

I think u misunderstood the meaning of my 3/2
U're getting another 100% sxp, so u'll get 300% sxp, 200% exp. => 3/2 sp/exp rate
So u'll get another 50% skill exp of the skill exp u get normally with premium+ during those 3h.
Now, on average, u'll get 3/5 (the 3 skill point hours out of the 5 premium hours) x 120,946 (as u like) x 0.5 (the 50 extra % I mentioned before)
which is approximately 36,284 extra skill points u'll get during that time.
so in the end u'll get 157,230 purely from grinding.
U guys are thinking u get double skill points from skill ticket on top of the premium.
It's like this: if u get 200 sxp from a mob with premium plus u'll get 300 sxp with skill ticket.
I guess ur thinking u'll get 400sxp then, isn't it? Well I hope u understood it now
lulz this is some serious silkroad maths :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
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The 120.9k sp is without tickets..So doing it times 0.6% gives the sp you get extra from the sp ticket. So I still think Gator is right and you're somehow missing something :P hehe

Oh and for the record, I know how tickets work ;) ^_^

Uhm..Now I think about it I would go for the 0 gap sp from 92-99 Since you want to be farmed begin 100 and not end 100 right? o.O

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:09 pm 
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U get 120.9k sp without ticket as well as with premium PLUS lulz
if u would only do skill ticket, ur calculation is correct yea
but with premium plus u'll get less sp when keeping the same gap eventually yea.

Well u should try it and then tell me who's right :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:19 pm 
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He's calculating the real double sp (those from the 3 hours sp ticket) inside the prem+

(See the lines:
Premium + (first 3 hours has the SP ticket running, 2 hours just exp)
so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567)

Aside from that he's calculating it like there is no prem+. I just can't find any mistakes in his calculations, I got the same calculation. Unless we're both missing something.

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 7:36 pm 
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so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567
I don't get that part
Let's think, 120,946 x 1 would be double exp
so 12,946 x 0.6 would be like double skill exp for 3h
so u're saying u get double sxp on top of the 200% sxp u get with premium+
so u're telling me u get 400% sxp in those 3 hours?
Correct me if I'm wrong


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 8:54 pm 
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Jaapii wrote:
so 120,946 x .6 = 72,567
I don't get that part
Let's think, 120,946 x 1 would be double exp
so 12,946 x 0.6 would be like double skill exp for 3h
so u're saying u get double sxp on top of the 200% sxp u get with premium+
so u're telling me u get 400% sxp in those 3 hours?
Correct me if I'm wrong


The 120,946 sp is what you get regardless of the premium+. The sp you get extra is calculated by the 0.6 because you have 3/5 of the time real double sp (since you're grinding 5 hours with prem+ and 3 of them is the sp ticket). So yes, you do get that on top of the 120,946 sp but it is not 400% sp exp.

Tell me if you're Dutch...and pm me your msn if you are. Maybe we can solve this in Dutch haha :P I dunno how I could explain it.

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:47 pm 
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Me and XMoshe solved it out and he says I am right :roll:
But I think u can get more sp (the sp in ur calculation) if u use the skill ticket when ur premium is not active, but u'll have to grind 8h a day then :D


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:51 pm 
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I'm sorry to say but Jaapii is right after all :( :P

Because of the premium+ you got less time to use the sp ticket properly since you'll be at your goal faster with the double exp. Stupid efficiƫncy :(

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 12:57 pm 
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I'm talking about me defeating XMoshe and gator!
(not about the tits)
(maybe a bit about the tits)


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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:39 pm 
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That's not epic win, it's out of proportion so it's ugly =[

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 Post subject: Re: 92-100 Total SP?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 7:50 pm 
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That's not epic win, it's out of proportion so it's ugly =[

they better photoshop the face imo


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