100cap and warlocks

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

So i just did the calculations for warlock/cleric from 90-100cap and it needs about 900ksp taking the absolute least number of necessary skills my question is are warlocks really worth it?
Discuss

wootpops · **Posted:** Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:42 pm

those resistance tabs are item mall?

i dont think so.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

Resistance..item mall..lol what?

I think you've misread something. Only holy spell gives 100% and apparently it's getting nerfed.

the_wicked · **Posted:** Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:54 pm

Azilius wrote:

Resistance..item mall..lol what?

I think you've misread something. Only holy spell gives 100% and apparently it's getting nerfed.

yep.

50% instead of 100%

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

i remeber reading that the resistance tabs were gonna be item mall maybe im mistaken?

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

whorelock wrote:

i remeber reading that the resistance tabs were gonna be item mall maybe im mistaken?

For as far as i know they will only be dropped by Roc

lets hope they wont be item mall damn xD

Amalie · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 390 **Location:**

LOL silkroad myths are great and this thread is full of them.

The greatest myth of them all is that you can see the great wall of china from space, this is infact completely untrue but is believed to be true by pretty much everyone. The fact is the great wall of china is indeed very long but it also very narrow, it would be like viewing a very long piece of string laid out on the ground from the top of a sky scraper.

Lesson to be learned is dont believe everything your read or hear

infact you shouldnt belive a word i just said.

Messiah · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 397 **Location:** Around

LillDev!l wrote:

whorelock wrote:

i remeber reading that the resistance tabs were gonna be item mall maybe im mistaken?

For as far as i know they will only be dropped by Roc

lets hope they wont be item mall damn xD

I heard they drop from Roc but have a very low drop rate..

I don't know just going off what I've heard from others.

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

Messiah wrote:

LillDev!l wrote:

whorelock wrote:

i remeber reading that the resistance tabs were gonna be item mall maybe im mistaken?

For as far as i know they will only be dropped by Roc

lets hope they wont be item mall damn xD

I heard they drop from Roc but have a very low drop rate..

I don't know just going off what I've heard from others.

ok then w/e exclude that part from my post.....900k sp really worth a build thats rendered usless with one cleric skill excess able to everyone

Disconn3cted · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 3293 **Location:** WV, USA

they drop from roc and they don't block any of the important status's so don't worry about it

Natsuyo · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 261 **Location:**

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pizzagirl2008 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:23 am

they should also increase the cooldowns for those debuffs just to even it up too, maybe a 15 sec cooldown just like chinese force imo.

Panu · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 3536 **Location:** Around

from seeing couple lvl 100 warlock pvp vids from ksro they still pack a good punch. with pots not healing as much as they do in their previous cap, sucking hp from them will be a no brainer. chin ints with 60% will be like walking on water.

i'd say go with warlock, just dont level cleric until you reach 100 so you dont need to farm for more sp, if you dont like lock, then drop it and you will have tons of sp for cleric or wiz or bard.

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

_Panu_ wrote:

from seeing couple lvl 100 warlock pvp vids from ksro they still pack a good punch. with pots not healing as much as they do in their previous cap, sucking hp from them will be a no brainer. chin ints with 60% will be like walking on water.

i'd say go with warlock, just dont level cleric until you reach 100 so you dont need to farm for more sp, if you dont like lock, then drop it and you will have tons of sp for cleric or wiz or bard.

thanks im almost positive im gonna go wiz/cleric tho i love warlocks and all but 900ksp that'l take forever

Nitro · **Joined:** Sep 2007 **Posts:** 4769 **Location:**

Oh ... that gives me question should I even bother continuing Archadia ...
I say, its not worth it ... 1mil SP is way too much for someone to grind ...

I cannot even get to cap, and thats supposed to be easiest thing.

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

Nitro wrote:

Oh ... that gives me question should I even bother continuing Archadia ...
I say, its not worth it ... 1mil SP is way too much for someone to grind ...

I cannot even get to cap, and thats supposed to be easiest thing.

ya it seemed ridiculous for me to farm about 1million sp to get ff from 0-90 but 90-100 10 levels need another million sp is outrageous

MrTwilliger · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 1374 **Location:** Hiding

pizzagirl2008 wrote:

they should also increase the cooldowns for those debuffs just to even it up too, maybe a 15 sec cooldown just like chinese force imo.

NO!

The reason chinese debuffs have a large cooldown is that the chinese build doesn't just rely on debuffs. Where the warlock, who's dot's and nukes do incredibly low damage, need these de buffs to maximise their killing potential. Low damage without de buffs, 15 second pot delay, wanna nerf the build even more?

firefox6 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1485 **Location:**

Amalie wrote:

LOL silkroad myths are great and this thread is full of them.

The greatest myth of them all is that you can see the great wall of china from space, this is infact completely untrue but is believed to be true by pretty much everyone. The fact is the great wall of china is indeed very long but it also very narrow, it would be like viewing a very long piece of string laid out on the ground from the top of a sky scraper.

Lesson to be learned is dont believe everything your read or hear

infact you shouldnt belive a word i just said.

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/space/workin ... _wall.html

thm_klose11 · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 57 **Location:** Germany

whorelock wrote:

_Panu_ wrote:

from seeing couple lvl 100 warlock pvp vids from ksro they still pack a good punch. with pots not healing as much as they do in their previous cap, sucking hp from them will be a no brainer. chin ints with 60% will be like walking on water.

i'd say go with warlock, just dont level cleric until you reach 100 so you dont need to farm for more sp, if you dont like lock, then drop it and you will have tons of sp for cleric or wiz or bard.

thanks im almost positive im gonna go wiz/cleric tho i love warlocks and all but 900ksp that'l take forever

900k sp? I need as a chinese s/s nuker (fire 100,light 100,cold100) from 90 to 100 ~850k sp.... my friend (rogue/cleric) need ~990k sp. So I think you calculated wrong. As an warlock/cleric full int you need ALL skills. So you need from 90 to 100 1,23 mio sp.

goyacracker · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 106

Ragnorak · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1147 **Location:**

MrTwilliger wrote:

pizzagirl2008 wrote:

they should also increase the cooldowns for those debuffs just to even it up too, maybe a 15 sec cooldown just like chinese force imo.

NO!

The reason chinese debuffs have a large cooldown is that the chinese build doesn't just rely on debuffs. Where the warlock, who's dot's and nukes do incredibly low damage, need these de buffs to maximise their killing potential. Low damage without de buffs, 15 second pot delay, wanna nerf the build even more?

In reality, euros don't have a 15 pot delay when it comes to pvp...~5sec from hp grains, ~5 sec. from vigor grains, ~3 sec. from recovery division, + 15 sec from orbit...rofl. yeah 15 sec delay

VforVendetta · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1615 **Location:**

I have to farm roughly 1,125,500 SP for Full Warrior, (All buffs, 1h Sword, 2h Sword, Dual Axe) and Full Warlock, 90~100. Shouldn't take more than 2 months.

NeverNighTz · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 156 **Location:**

VforVendetta wrote:

I have to farm roughly 1,125,500 SP for Full Warrior, (All buffs, 1h Sword, 2h Sword, Dual Axe) and Full Warlock, 90~100. Shouldn't take more than 2 months.

Will you make a cool movie such as Talkin 2 Myself, again?

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It will take me 2,250,137 SP to make a Lv 100 Warlock/Cleric, which will be almost max farmed(almost all skills). I think I´ll farm with a friend, he´s planing to farm a new char, too. I´m looking forward to the Lv 100 Cap

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

thm_klose11 wrote:

whorelock wrote:

_Panu_ wrote:

from seeing couple lvl 100 warlock pvp vids from ksro they still pack a good punch. with pots not healing as much as they do in their previous cap, sucking hp from them will be a no brainer. chin ints with 60% will be like walking on water.

i'd say go with warlock, just dont level cleric until you reach 100 so you dont need to farm for more sp, if you dont like lock, then drop it and you will have tons of sp for cleric or wiz or bard.

thanks im almost positive im gonna go wiz/cleric tho i love warlocks and all but 900ksp that'l take forever

900k sp? I need as a chinese s/s nuker (fire 100,light 100,cold100) from 90 to 100 ~850k sp.... my friend (rogue/cleric) need ~990k sp. So I think you calculated wrong. As an warlock/cleric full int you need ALL skills. So you need from 90 to 100 1,23 mio sp.

ive found thier is a few u can skip out on

wootpops · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:20 pm

whorelock wrote:

_Panu_ wrote:

from seeing couple lvl 100 warlock pvp vids from ksro they still pack a good punch. with pots not healing as much as they do in their previous cap, sucking hp from them will be a no brainer. chin ints with 60% will be like walking on water.

i'd say go with warlock, just dont level cleric until you reach 100 so you dont need to farm for more sp, if you dont like lock, then drop it and you will have tons of sp for cleric or wiz or bard.

thanks im almost positive im gonna go wiz/cleric tho i love warlocks and all but 900ksp that'l take forever

my friend is wiz/cleric and she hates it, wants to go warlock. wiz dosen't have enough disabling moves to have a decent pvp. imo it would be hard going from almost 100% stun/sleep to only a knockbackand relying on bless.

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

wootpops wrote:

whorelock wrote:

_Panu_ wrote:

from seeing couple lvl 100 warlock pvp vids from ksro they still pack a good punch. with pots not healing as much as they do in their previous cap, sucking hp from them will be a no brainer. chin ints with 60% will be like walking on water.

i'd say go with warlock, just dont level cleric until you reach 100 so you dont need to farm for more sp, if you dont like lock, then drop it and you will have tons of sp for cleric or wiz or bard.

thanks im almost positive im gonna go wiz/cleric tho i love warlocks and all but 900ksp that'l take forever

my friend is wiz/cleric and she hates it, wants to go warlock. wiz dosen't have enough disabling moves to have a decent pvp. imo it would be hard going from almost 100% stun/sleep to only a knockbackand relying on bless.

believe me ive evaluated all the pros and cons and i realize i wont be able to do 1v1 pvps and ive played wizz a few times in fortress war so i know what its like

BloodyBlade · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2009 6:54 pm

I've never seen any 60+ warlocks on csro(and those are mostly powerleveled), because they are so hard to bot up

Oh well, csro is almost filled with bots & goldbuyers >,<

XMoshe · **Posted:** Mon Feb 16, 2009 8:04 pm

VforVendetta wrote:

I have to farm roughly 1,125,500 SP for Full Warrior, (All buffs, 1h Sword, 2h Sword, Dual Axe) and Full Warlock, 90~100. Shouldn't take more than 2 months.

575k a month? That's impossible at 90 lol

VforVendetta · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 1615 **Location:**

XMoshe wrote:

VforVendetta wrote:

I have to farm roughly 1,125,500 SP for Full Warrior, (All buffs, 1h Sword, 2h Sword, Dual Axe) and Full Warlock, 90~100. Shouldn't take more than 2 months.

575k a month? That's impossible at 90 lol

I farmed 351K SP at Level 90 with a 9 gap on Lvl 85~87 mobs under a month, it was relatively slow, but I grinded throughout nearly the whole duration of the day, then partied with my union in the evening, now considering I was grinding on mobs lower level than me that was pretty good. At the 100 cap my masteries will be 82, and I will be 91, I will be 9 gapping on monsters 94~96 (Solo), 96~98 (Parties), making it twice as effecient as before, making it possible to get 600k+ SP a month.

whorelock · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 307 **Location:**

BloodyBlade wrote:

I've never seen any 60+ warlocks on csro(and those are mostly powerleveled), because they are so hard to bot up

Oh well, csro is almost filled with bots & goldbuyers >,<

ive seen warlocks botting on babel its not immpossible they just use the baby nukes and life leech

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