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 Post subject: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:30 pm 
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Hey guys, I've always used

http://sro.mmosite.com/x/

But I decided to try out REV6's calculator.

Now here's my problem.

Sro mmosite says that it will cost me 2 098 000 SP (2m 98k) for my build (to lvl 101).

But REV6 says that it will cost me 2 040 000 SP (2m 40k) for the exact same skills.

If anybody is interrested here's my build from REV6, if you wanna try it out for yourself :)

http://www.rev6.com/tools/skill/ch/?id=95377

Which one is wrong?

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Try the SP calculator on KSRO site.

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:17 pm 
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They are both not 100% accurate.

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:48 pm 
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youre probably safe to assume the higher amount. even if you just take the lower number, how long could it take to farm a few hundred k more sp anyways?

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:59 pm 
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Rev6 one is the only one that is 100% correct.
MMO site = wrong
KSRO = different amount of SP needed from ISRO
nivlam = wrong


Edit:
You missed out fire protection on the rev6 calculator
You need Required Total SP: 2,040,499


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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
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HotCheeks wrote:
Rev6 one is the only one that is 100% correct.
MMO site = wrong
KSRO = different amount of SP needed from ISRO
nivlam = wrong


Care to bring forth some proof?

I always used mmosite and it never failed me so yeah...

Besides do what cell said, go for the higher amount, takes like 4-6 extra days of ong farming lol... Same at lvl 105+ in the job cave. And it's so close together, take the average then? xD

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:23 pm 
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XMoshe wrote:
HotCheeks wrote:
Rev6 one is the only one that is 100% correct.
MMO site = wrong
KSRO = different amount of SP needed from ISRO
nivlam = wrong


Care to bring forth some proof?

I always used mmosite and it never failed me so yeah...

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What i did was, maxed the mastery on both before and after to 110 and maxed the soul spear serires except the last book which is lvl 0 (before) and made it lvl 1 (after)then press calculate.

The Rev6 admin took the sp amount from the pk2 files.


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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:27 pm 
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Ok, so that is one skill..Unless you did it for several dozen of them it can be just as well that rev6 fcks up somewhere =p

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XMoshe wrote:
Ok, so that is one skill..Unless you did it for several dozen of them it can be just as well that rev6 fcks up somewhere =p

i can show 10 skills from MMO site and 10 skills from rev6.. (for 101+) and all the mmo site ones will be wrong while rev6 will be right.


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HotCheeks wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Ok, so that is one skill..Unless you did it for several dozen of them it can be just as well that rev6 fcks up somewhere =p

i can show 10 skills from MMO site and 10 skills from rev6.. (for 101+) and all the mmo site ones will be wrong while rev6 will be right.


Then do so because 1 skill in a game with hundreds of skill levels won't convince me that one is right and one is wrong lol

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HotCheeks wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Ok, so that is one skill..Unless you did it for several dozen of them it can be just as well that rev6 fcks up somewhere =p

i can show 10 skills from MMO site and 10 skills from rev6.. (for 101+) and all the mmo site ones will be wrong while rev6 will be right.

I appreciate your helpful post above but dont get cocky :P I'm sure that REV6 has some flaws aswell.

Btw, edited the REV6 link since I missed out 1 skill :)

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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XMoshe wrote:
HotCheeks wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
Ok, so that is one skill..Unless you did it for several dozen of them it can be just as well that rev6 fcks up somewhere =p

i can show 10 skills from MMO site and 10 skills from rev6.. (for 101+) and all the mmo site ones will be wrong while rev6 will be right.


Then do so because 1 skill in a game with hundreds of skill levels won't convince me that one is right and one is wrong lol

Alright... ill do it later.

either way MMO site is wrong by a large margin for 101+ skills and thats why you shouldnt use it.


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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
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If you're worried, just farm an extra 10-20% and you'll be set. Or you can go beyond that and just farm double and be close to 120 FF.

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
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I almost haven't used the Rev6 one at all. Mostly MMOSite. Before that, Nivlam.

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
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lotri wrote:
If you're worried, just farm an extra 10-20% and you'll be set. Or you can go beyond that and just farm double and be close to 120 FF.

Hehe, I need 2m for 101 FF, 3,9m for 110 FF ;) I'm not gonna farm that much :P I've calculated that I'm gonna be able to get 103/104 FF from the SP I get from just lvling (maybe more, depends on how much I die ^^ ). But I'm gonna stop lvling skills at 101 I think, and just lvl 1 mastery. So when I hit 110 - dlvl the one mastery to 101 and enjoy massive amounts of SP from my 9gap :sohappy:



...Atleast that's what I hope is gonna happen ^^

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

edit: and if ur the type to throw up a fire wall or ice wall, i just walk away and sit down lol


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apan wrote:
lotri wrote:
If you're worried, just farm an extra 10-20% and you'll be set. Or you can go beyond that and just farm double and be close to 120 FF.

Hehe, I need 2m for 101 FF, 3,9m for 110 FF ;) I'm not gonna farm that much :P I've calculated that I'm gonna be able to get 103/104 FF from the SP I get from just lvling (maybe more, depends on how much I die ^^ ). But I'm gonna stop lvling skills at 101 I think, and just lvl 1 mastery. So when I hit 110 - dlvl the one mastery to 101 and enjoy massive amounts of SP from my 9gap :sohappy:

...Atleast that's what I hope is gonna happen ^^


With a bit of luck you can already farm quite a bit in the job cave ;] With a party and it being not too busy you can basically farm like you do at ongs but with a 0 gap.

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XMoshe wrote:
apan wrote:
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If you're worried, just farm an extra 10-20% and you'll be set. Or you can go beyond that and just farm double and be close to 120 FF.

Hehe, I need 2m for 101 FF, 3,9m for 110 FF ;) I'm not gonna farm that much :P I've calculated that I'm gonna be able to get 103/104 FF from the SP I get from just lvling (maybe more, depends on how much I die ^^ ). But I'm gonna stop lvling skills at 101 I think, and just lvl 1 mastery. So when I hit 110 - dlvl the one mastery to 101 and enjoy massive amounts of SP from my 9gap :sohappy:

...Atleast that's what I hope is gonna happen ^^


With a bit of luck you can already farm quite a bit in the job cave ;] With a party and it being not too busy you can basically farm like you do at ongs but with a 0 gap.

Yeah, but...

Who wants a blader in their PT?

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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apan wrote:
lotri wrote:
If you're worried, just farm an extra 10-20% and you'll be set. Or you can go beyond that and just farm double and be close to 120 FF.

Hehe, I need 2m for 101 FF, 3,9m for 110 FF ;) I'm not gonna farm that much :P I've calculated that I'm gonna be able to get 103/104 FF from the SP I get from just lvling (maybe more, depends on how much I die ^^ ). But I'm gonna stop lvling skills at 101 I think, and just lvl 1 mastery. So when I hit 110 - dlvl the one mastery to 101 and enjoy massive amounts of SP from my 9gap :sohappy:



...Atleast that's what I hope is gonna happen ^^

dont gap... just do the sp quests "kill 900 of these mobs" to get 1000 sp...


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apan wrote:
XMoshe wrote:
apan wrote:
Hehe, I need 2m for 101 FF, 3,9m for 110 FF ;) I'm not gonna farm that much :P I've calculated that I'm gonna be able to get 103/104 FF from the SP I get from just lvling (maybe more, depends on how much I die ^^ ). But I'm gonna stop lvling skills at 101 I think, and just lvl 1 mastery. So when I hit 110 - dlvl the one mastery to 101 and enjoy massive amounts of SP from my 9gap :sohappy:

...Atleast that's what I hope is gonna happen ^^


With a bit of luck you can already farm quite a bit in the job cave ;] With a party and it being not too busy you can basically farm like you do at ongs but with a 0 gap.

Yeah, but...

Who wants a blader in their PT?


Find a nice guild, by the time you're ready for the job cave you'll have made some friends ;]

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:32 am 
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Wait so which is the more trusted SP calculater? I want the rough amount of SP needed to be FF for level 50 Pacheon/Fire/Light

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 Post subject: Re: SP Calculator, which one?
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u forget the amount you get from 0 gap 29 to 101 for example or 29 to 110
u dont need to farm the amount of sp the calculator gives, u need to find out how much sp u get from 0 gap and then u can see ur sp requirements

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