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 Post subject: Difference between jobcave & ong farming SP-wise
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:40 pm 
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I heared that these days ong farming is a waste a time, that at 105 you can farm up to 100-150k sp per day in jobcave.

Can anyone enlighten me up? Which quest do you repeat, do all people repeat the same quest?
Are there any alternatives at 100++ quest-wise that people farm which doesnt include jobcave?

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I heared that these days ong farming is a waste a time, that at 105 you can farm up to 100-150k sp per day in jobcave.

Can anyone enlighten me up? Which quest do you repeat, do all people repeat the same quest?
Are there any alternatives at 100++ quest-wise that people farm which doesnt include jobcave?

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100k+ sp per day is bot-only as well as impossible at this point I think. It's too crowded with wiz bots.

Basically there's 4 quests in the cave that ppl do. 1) collect 50 items, 2) collect 100 items, 3) kill 100 monsters, 4) kill 20 opposing job ppl. Each is like 700 sp I think. 1&2 can be done on pretty much any mob inside job cave. 3 is specific mob. This can vary depending on which npc you talk to. Overall it's just you kill a few mobs run back to npc and get sp. Doing it by hand I can get around 10k sp a day, maybe 25k if I'm SUPER BORED. I don't think 150k is really possible. Specially know when most rooms are full.

I started out when this wasn't quite popular and back then I could make around 50k sp if I was lucky since there was like maybe 4 other ppl in the cave.

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I heared that these days ong farming is a waste a time, that at 105 you can farm up to 100-150k sp per day in jobcave.

Can anyone enlighten me up? Which quest do you repeat, do all people repeat the same quest?
Are there any alternatives at 100++ quest-wise that people farm which doesnt include jobcave?

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100k+ sp per day is bot-only as well as impossible at this point I think. It's too crowded with wiz bots.

Basically there's 4 quests in the cave that ppl do. 1) collect 50 items, 2) collect 100 items, 3) kill 100 monsters, 4) kill 20 opposing job ppl. Each is like 700 sp I think. 1&2 can be done on pretty much any mob inside job cave. 3 is specific mob. This can vary depending on which npc you talk to. Overall it's just you kill a few mobs run back to npc and get sp. Doing it by hand I can get around 10k sp a day, maybe 25k if I'm SUPER BORED. I don't think 150k is really possible. Specially know when most rooms are full.

I started out when this wasn't quite popular and back then I could make around 50k sp if I was lucky since there was like maybe 4 other ppl in the cave.

This, pretty much!

I once got to play my friends lvl 105 archer at Iris. It could get sp extremely fast due to the quests. I mainly did the two first quests. It was very nice with his pickup pet, hehe. I only got to play the char for 5 days, but it convinced me that I would rather wait till 105 and then farm, instead of farming a 9gap from like 52 to 64, lol.

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Can I enter jobcave anytime I wish?
What about alternative quest_sp_farmings which dont require entering jobcave in other to finish them?

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Joymax shouldav added lots of SP quests throughout the game for all levels....its better than 9 gap farming for months....

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Can I enter jobcave anytime I wish?
What about alternative quest_sp_farmings which dont require entering jobcave in other to finish them?


You can enter as long as whatever job you are isn't the overpopulating one. Like if you are a hunter and there is 90% hunters in the cave, you can't enter until more hunters leave. Or you switch to a thief.


Outside Alex Quest give pretty decent sp. At 110 in a 110 party, I was getting about 2k sp every hour due to how fast my wiz friends were killing the mobs. There it's basically kill 1000 mobs get sp.

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If you are thinking of making a new char, do ong farming, there isnt as much bs to deal with. With the ong farm, just farm for 105. Then once you hit the job temple, you can get a fair amount of sp there. BUT, if you have money to spend, and you buy a premium plus, ong farm can go from 3k sp/hr to 6k sp/hr. But the job temple will stay the same because premium doesnt effect quest rewards...


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Can I enter jobcave anytime I wish?
What about alternative quest_sp_farmings which dont require entering jobcave in other to finish them?


There is a quest line 'becoming a deity' or something like that which revolves around killing mobs at certain lvl's, there is a quest for basically every mob (well one mob kind at each lvl) these are also infinite times repeatable and give you a decent sp reward (250 sp, compared to the 700 it's pretty low but it's better than the 5k sp exp reward we used to get or something).

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Nitro wrote:
I heared that these days ong farming is a waste a time, that at 105 you can farm up to 100-150k sp per day in jobcave.

Can anyone enlighten me up? Which quest do you repeat, do all people repeat the same quest?
Are there any alternatives at 100++ quest-wise that people farm which doesnt include jobcave?

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Maybe this could help you out, a bit:

http://www.rev6.com/forum/showthread.ph ... ble-Quests

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It makes you sad cuz everyone in the jobcave bots...

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

im telling i never lose to chinese

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It' basicly the same. When i was farming at ong, in the good days (i mean no one ks or kill the noobs and stuff like that) i was getting up to 70k SP per day. Atm my friends get around that amount also if no one goes to kill then or ks too much. Botting ofcoure. I had a legit friend who was able to get 70k Sp per day too, but that's a lot of time spend ingame. So maybe if you r legit, ong farm could get you better SP. But the advantage at 105 is that u can do pretty much everything else, since u will be high lvl. So it's up to u to decide.

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It' basicly the same. When i was farming at ong, in the good days (i mean no one ks or kill the noobs and stuff like that) i was getting up to 70k SP per day. Atm my friends get around that amount also if no one goes to kill then or ks too much. Botting ofcoure I had a legit friend who was able to get 70k Sp per day too, but that's a lot of time spend ingame. So maybe if you r legit, ong farm could get you better SP. But the advantage at 105 is that u can do pretty much everything else, since u will be high lvl. So it's up to u to decide.

A day is 24h and I get about 1k an' hour with my 85 nuker pfarming my noobs so that's about 24k a day if I would play all day but since I dont want to (or can) spend all my day infront of SRO I don't get anything near that.

70/24 ~ 2,91 (3) So 3k an hour...

Btw, you say you had a legit friend who also got 70k a day, but that's alot of hours in game. So you're saying that you got 70k a day and its possible if your legit aswell but its just too many hours? :palm:

Let me ask you somthing. ...Do you bot?

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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70k is a tad bit high IMO, but 50k should be easily possible. When my tickets ran I did over 6k an hour IIRC o.O

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70k is a tad bit high IMO, but 50k should be easily possible. When my tickets ran I did over 6k an hour IIRC o.O

That's 100 SP in 1 minute :shock:

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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70k is a tad bit high IMO, but 50k should be easily possible. When my tickets ran I did over 6k an hour IIRC o.O

That's 100 SP in 1 minute :shock:


Ongfarm mate, it was before every single spot was crowded so we had a nice hill and the wiz was 1shotting 2+ pt mobs with one nuke so yeah it goes uber fast.

For 50k a day you'll need 2 plvlers grinding out of eachothers range but inside the nubs range, or a party with a plvler, a plvlee (lol) and 6 lvl 1 chars.

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It' basicly the same. When i was farming at ong, in the good days (i mean no one ks or kill the noobs and stuff like that) i was getting up to 70k SP per day. Atm my friends get around that amount also if no one goes to kill then or ks too much. Botting ofcoure I had a legit friend who was able to get 70k Sp per day too, but that's a lot of time spend ingame. So maybe if you r legit, ong farm could get you better SP. But the advantage at 105 is that u can do pretty much everything else, since u will be high lvl. So it's up to u to decide.

A day is 24h and I get about 1k an' hour with my 85 nuker pfarming my noobs so that's about 24k a day if I would play all day but since I dont want to (or can) spend all my day infront of SRO I don't get anything near that.

70/24 ~ 2,91 (3) So 3k an hour...

Btw, you say you had a legit friend who also got 70k a day, but that's alot of hours in game. So you're saying that you got 70k a day and its possible if your legit aswell but its just too many hours? :palm:

Let me ask you somthing. ...Do you bot?


A friend of mine stated 50k per day @ ongs was easily doable with prem plus and skill ticket. no clue if he's right though.

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It' basicly the same. When i was farming at ong, in the good days (i mean no one ks or kill the noobs and stuff like that) i was getting up to 70k SP per day. Atm my friends get around that amount also if no one goes to kill then or ks too much. Botting ofcoure I had a legit friend who was able to get 70k Sp per day too, but that's a lot of time spend ingame. So maybe if you r legit, ong farm could get you better SP. But the advantage at 105 is that u can do pretty much everything else, since u will be high lvl. So it's up to u to decide.

A day is 24h and I get about 1k an' hour with my 85 nuker pfarming my noobs so that's about 24k a day if I would play all day but since I dont want to (or can) spend all my day infront of SRO I don't get anything near that.

70/24 ~ 2,91 (3) So 3k an hour...

Btw, you say you had a legit friend who also got 70k a day, but that's alot of hours in game. So you're saying that you got 70k a day and its possible if your legit aswell but its just too many hours? :palm:

Let me ask you somthing. ...Do you bot?


A friend of mine stated 50k per day @ ongs was easily doable with prem plus and skill ticket. no clue if he's right though.

50k at ongs is doable, if you have a dedicated botter helping you or something.

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The problem here is that he said that he got 70k a day. And his legit friend was able to do so aswell but it took him a really long time. Now the question is, what's the difference between him and his legit friend? I'm just asking...

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technically speaking all i need is DOT for dull and wheel bind to kill a chinese char but the other stuff just adds salt to the wounds

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The problem here is that he said that he got 70k a day. And his legit friend was able to do so aswell but it took him a really long time. Now the question is, what's the difference between him and his legit friend? I'm just asking...


Pretty sure it's not against the rules here to have a botter powrlvl you.

70k per day with botter powerlvling vs 70k per day someone there by hand powerlvling.

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The problem here is that he said that he got 70k a day. And his legit friend was able to do so aswell but it took him a really long time. Now the question is, what's the difference between him and his legit friend? I'm just asking...


The REAL problem here is that you try something that wont work, you need solid proof, not some cryptic shit so just move along man...Let it go >.<

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So, if you want to try it, get a good plvler, like a 85 wiz or something that one-shots everything except pt giants. Then set a 9 gap, set a time, and time it for exactly one hour.

See what you get for SP. Then add some level 1 noobs in the pt and do it again. I wouldn't be surprised if it's very possible, and having a shared account or multiple friends powerleveling you 24/7 would make it so.

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The problem here is that he said that he got 70k a day. And his legit friend was able to do so aswell but it took him a really long time. Now the question is, what's the difference between him and his legit friend? I'm just asking...


The REAL problem here is that you try something that wont work, you need solid proof, not some cryptic shit so just move along man...Let it go >.<

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It' basicly the same. When i was farming at ong, in the good days (i mean no one ks or kill the noobs and stuff like that) i was getting up to 70k SP per day. Atm my friends get around that amount also if no one goes to kill then or ks too much. Botting ofcoure I had a legit friend who was able to get 70k Sp per day too, but that's a lot of time spend ingame. So maybe if you r legit, ong farm could get you better SP. But the advantage at 105 is that u can do pretty much everything else, since u will be high lvl. So it's up to u to decide.

A day is 24h and I get about 1k an' hour with my 85 nuker pfarming my noobs so that's about 24k a day if I would play all day but since I dont want to (or can) spend all my day infront of SRO I don't get anything near that.

70/24 ~ 2,91 (3) So 3k an hour...

Btw, you say you had a legit friend who also got 70k a day, but that's alot of hours in game. So you're saying that you got 70k a day and its possible if your legit aswell but its just too many hours? :palm:

Let me ask you somthing. ...Do you bot?


Ok. I didn't really said it clear. I'll try again.
When i was farming my char at ongs (yes, i was farmed by a bot, ban me if it's against the rules) i was able to get 70k SP for 24 hours, i'm pretty sure someone made it to 76k. Me and some friends were farming together, so we were taking turns to be party master and to add lvl 1 chars in the party. I was using SP ticket and prem + and at that time i needed to delvl 3 times a day. But the rules were pretty strict, if someone turned lvl 26 and didn't go to delvl, he was banned from the party. Also i was farming 2 chars in the party, so most of the time i was doing delvl. It was pretty annoying to be honest. I was farmed by a nuker first, after that by bard. And if u r going to ask - i did needed a lot of time to do that, maybe 15-20 hours a day, but at that time i was unemloyed and looking for a job so i had plenty of free time.
About my friends who is making 70k SP per day legit. This is about the hunter cave. When he was making that SP, he was using prem + and SP tiket and playing 5 hours for the prem plus. Maybe some more. But that's what i remember. And he was one of the first lvl 105s in the server so he didn't had a lot of ks around him. For the record - he is a warrior cleric.
About my friends who bot in the cave, they get an average of 40-60k SP per 24 hours, depending of the ks, killing by thiefs/hunters, DC's and stuff like that.
I hope i made my self clear, if u don't understand anything, ask again.

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