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weanLsyc
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Post subject: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:52 pm |
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Because I'm not sure about the real + of SoN towards normal 101 weapon I would like to compare them. First pic is about XMoshe's SoN Spear +5  Second pic shows my +8 spear ( bad stats I know, but I need to collect tabs etc..) Attachment:
SRO[2010-04-07 14-39-31]_06.jpg [ 141.16 KiB | Viewed 11148 times ]
Yesterday I saw a clean SoN spear +1 and I compared my spear with that clean SoN spear. if the SoN = +7 then it would have nearly the same stat as my spear. But I realized that my spear had 200 mag damage more than that SoN spear +1. That's why I'm not sure if SoN = 101+7 I'll try to find that SoN + 1 spear to make a screenie..
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:56 pm |
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It's +7. Has been said over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again on these forums.
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:01 pm |
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it's around +6-7 in attack power +7-10 if you count the reinforce too
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:55 pm |
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Didnt know +8 was a normal weapon. I cant even get +4.
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:37 pm |
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VforVendetta wrote: Didnt know +8 was a normal weapon. I cant even get +4. Yeah really, my thoughts are that joymax farked with alchemy, making it harder to plus/stone items
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 2:37 pm |
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VforVendetta wrote: Didnt know +8 was a normal weapon. I cant even get +4. Next time try more then 3 elixers 
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:55 pm |
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If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem.
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:28 pm |
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omier44 wrote: If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem. i have a sasan glavie 90..and it is +6 >.> am i a nuup?
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:36 pm |
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Jambi wrote: omier44 wrote: If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem. i have a sasan glavie 90..and it is +6 >.> am i a nuup? I didn't mean noobs<+7>pros. Now just everyone has a lot of gold and they + alot. Don't compare a SoN+1 with a normal +8 if u will make it about the same as +8.
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:50 pm |
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I failed +2 4 times in a row  and yes son = 101 +7 including the reinforce effect 106 if you just consider the attack power
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 7:41 pm |
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found this on rev6   sun 10D compare to son 11D is about +1.1 difference but comparing to normal weapon it should be about a diff of ~+1.5 101+ ~+6.5 =~ son 101+0
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:07 pm |
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I'll be sure to +7 mine lol. Some guy in the union has a 90+11 Sun bow, he doesn't have to get a 101 one unless he can get a nova and +9/10/11 that too lol.
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:37 am |
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Jambi wrote: omier44 wrote: If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem. i have a sasan glavie 90..and it is +6 >.> am i a nuup? I have a sun +6 staff 90 lvl, so i'm with u bro  Never wanted it at +7 anyways, but now i might make it +8 if i find a b grade elixir  XMoshe wrote: I'll be sure to +7 mine lol. Some guy in the union has a 90+11 Sun bow, he doesn't have to get a 101 one unless he can get a nova and +9/10/11 that too lol. 10d suns rox, i'm so glad i didn't sold mine 
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weanLsyc
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:22 am |
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High plus ftw  but it's impossible to find a b grade elixir weapon 11D no sealed on my server -.- sealed b grade elixirs are easier to get :/
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:25 am |
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Yesterday, an accessory I was working on went 1, 2, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, and yes, I was using lucky powders. How can people +7 +9 +11?? I think I got a +5 once and that was the highlight of my alchemy career.
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weanLsyc
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 8:39 am |
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It's all about luck.IMO you can't push your luck with prem plus and luck dress etc. That's why I prefer pimping with prem silver without luck dress ( waste of silk I think ) I've made 3 +9 items ( without adv. elixir ).
I prefer pimping clean items because I think I'm luckier with them. And I never try go on pimping items which failed at +2 because every item has its own luck probability.
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:23 pm |
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Moshe has a SoN spear?? damn :o
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:26 pm |
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Ramidux wrote: Moshe has a SoN spear?? damn :o No it's all an illusion :O
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 3:49 pm |
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TillTheEnd wrote: 101+ ~+6.5 =~ son 101+0
+6.5... TOLD YA!!!! xD
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:10 pm |
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Gladiator_RN wrote: TillTheEnd wrote: 101+ ~+6.5 =~ son 101+0
+6.5... TOLD YA!!!! xD With lower reinforces...
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NuclearSilo
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:20 pm |
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XMoshe wrote: Ramidux wrote: Moshe has a SoN spear?? damn :o No it's all an illusion :O I'll try to find your char on rev6 ^^
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XMoshe
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 4:24 pm |
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I was already wondering why it took you so long.
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Ramidux
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 9:30 pm |
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i know who is account, lulz 
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:39 am |
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Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:14 am |
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^thanks for the link. It seems like nova+0 is actually better than 101+8 if that mmosite calculator is correct. proof:  total physical attack power from both blades: fLPhy = (sPts * (lowPRein / 100) + lowPhy) * (wpnMast / 100 + 1); fHPhy = (sPts * (highPRein / 100) + highPhy) * (wpnMast / 100 + 1); sPts = max str @110 = 20+109*4+12*7 = 540 nova+0 = 6673,548 - 7672,476 101+8 = 6731,55 - 7612,92
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