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 Post subject: how so high
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:21 pm 
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how do people always get such high hp and mp cause im lvl 30 and have 2.5khp and lvl 90 + have like 20-30k how?


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:26 pm 
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Each time you level up, you get 3 str and int, as well as another 3 stats points to add onto either HP or MP. By the time you level up to 90, a full str will have about 25k HP. Then str added on all set pieces, 600 HP increase on Head, Chest and Legs. Then you have Devil Suits which add a further 15% HP/MP. And Heuksal has about 4k HP increase from the passive. It all adds up.

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:32 pm 
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my bad i dunno if they changed it i just remember i thought it was u get 5 points each level 2 automatically go to str and int and u got to spend the other 3 well fair enough anyway


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:47 pm 
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yes you are right.. each level you automatically get 1 STR and 1 INT, then you additionally get the 3 stat points to add where you like.

Also to answer your question, as you attain higher levels, your INT and STR points increase your HP/MP by higher amounts. Therefore adding 3 STR to a level 30 character will give much less HP, lets say 30HP, than adding 3 STR points to a level 90, which would give, lets say, 90HP

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
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The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:57 am 
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ok thanks good to know


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:03 am 
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yes good information is always good to know


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
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The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

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Formula is formula, it never changes. Only the final result changes

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

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Formula is formula, it never changes. Only the final result changes


Well something causes the result to increase. If the formula never changes then 2+2 will always be 4. And those HP amount would never increase no matter what level you get to. Logic dictates that a variable was altered. I would have to assume that as you level up your new level gets factored into the formula thus there is a change.

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:00 am 
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BuDo wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

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Formula is formula, it never changes. Only the final result changes


Well something causes the result to increase. If the formula never changes then 2+2 will always be 4. And those HP amount would never increase no matter what level you get to. Logic dictates that a variable was altered. I would have to assume that as you level up your new level gets factored into the formula thus there is a change.

WTF did anyone else understand this on the first read lol?


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:10 am 
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WTF did anyone else understand this on the first read lol?


yeah hes saying that the increase in hp and mp with each stat point each level steadily increases based on your current level, like 1 str point at lvl 30 will add 30 hp but 1 str point at 90 will add say 90hp... all this info is already in this thread... :banghead:

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:30 am 
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lol im suprised this is like a 3 post thread to some answers and agreements its somehoww gone to above 10


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:18 am 
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BuDo wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

fail :palm:
Formula is formula, it never changes. Only the final result changes


Well something causes the result to increase. If the formula never changes then 2+2 will always be 4. And those HP amount would never increase no matter what level you get to. Logic dictates that a variable was altered. I would have to assume that as you level up your new level gets factored into the formula thus there is a change.


So the only type of formula in existence is linear? :palm:

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BuDo wrote:
NuclearSilo wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

fail :palm:
Formula is formula, it never changes. Only the final result changes


Well something causes the result to increase. If the formula never changes then 2+2 will always be 4. And those HP amount would never increase no matter what level you get to. Logic dictates that a variable was altered. I would have to assume that as you level up your new level gets factored into the formula thus there is a change.

So you're saying that if someone asks you what's the formula for calculating hp and mp is, you'd say that there is too much formulas because it changes every time you level up so you can't give him the answer?

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
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NuclearSilo wrote:
Disconn3cted wrote:
The formula for calculating hp and mp changes each time you level, because of this 1 str point will give a lvl 90 character far more hp than 1 str point will give to a lvl 30 character.

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Formula is formula, it never changes. Only the final result changes


The formula does change, I don't know the formula but a variable did change or a str point wouldn't be worth more at higher lvls. You know this as well as I do, I think your English isn't good enough to understand what I said.

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:05 pm 
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why are you guys arguing about this lol


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
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formula doesn't change.. variables change... retards

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:13 pm 
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Smi!ezZ wrote:
formula doesn't change.. variables change... retards


oh, thats right. I think I just died a little inside. :soosad:

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:29 pm 
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I wonder how much 1 STR point is... is it like 1% more HP than you had before? Does anyone know?

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:05 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:15 pm 
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Based on nivlam's calculator, I got that the amount of HP you get per STR point increases exponentially as a function of the level.

approximate HP you get for each STR point you add = 9.7617*exp(0.0198*level)

Example : If you were level 100 pure str(416 str points), then you would get

9.617*exp(0.0198*100) = 70.7014842 or 71 hp per str point

416*71 = 29536 hp total

This is a little bit off since I didn't take all of nivlam's points into account, but I think it's a good approximation.

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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 6:41 pm 
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HP = 1.02 ^ (lvl-1) * (str*10)
MP = 1.02 ^ (lvl-1) * (int*10)

Of course you have to add HP/MP blues on equip.


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 Post subject: Re: how so high
PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 7:00 pm 
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HP = 1.02 ^ (lvl-1) * (str*10)
MP = 1.02 ^ (lvl-1) * (int*10)

Of course you have to add HP/MP blues on equip.

Thanks a lot, that's pretty awesome... Makes 4,9k HP for lv 44 with 210 STR points... Seems to be right.

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