Question to archers

loveisintheair · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 352 **Location:**

What is your experience with the hawks like? Are both (blue and light) needed?

A union mate claims that the lightning hawk is useless and that he only uses the blue hawk.

Is the hit ratio increase superior to the physical attack of the lightning hawk?

zShared · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 787 **Location:** Lupus

attack rating > the other one

Crowley · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 8:41 pm

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

tuinman159 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 250 **Location:**

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ

Crowley · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 9:31 pm

tuinman159 wrote:

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ

Jesus Fucking Christ, Attack Rating will change your damage from 10,000 to 10,010.

I'll bet you $1000 that the Hawk's damage will be more than the slight attack increase you get from AR.

loveisintheair · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 352 **Location:**

tuinman159 wrote:

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

use a trigger scroll and see the difference,

Trigger scroll: 30% difference, hawk: 8.25% (relative to my current hit ratio).

Now tell me if it makes the same difference in my case compared to the light hawk.

zShared · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 787 **Location:** Lupus

Tsume wrote:

tuinman159 wrote:

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ

Jesus Fucking Christ, Attack Rating will change your damage from 10,000 to 10,010.

I'll bet you $1000 that the Hawk's damage will be more than the slight attack increase you get from AR.

Attack rating and parry ratio are VERY important.
I'd take a 80% parry ratio over any other white on a garment.
Do you even know what attack rating does..?
level 98 staff:
Mag. attack power 3368 ~ 4010
Higher attack rating means that you will hit closer to the 4010 most of the time. Big difference.

Crowley · **Posted:** Fri May 29, 2009 10:45 pm

Oh my god, of course I know what AR does. IMO it's still not very good. Just MAYBE there's a CHANCE that you will hit TOWARDS your max damage. I'd much rather take Hawk damage over that. And this isn't about 80% PR on your whites. This is about like a 10% increase in AR.

Pan_Raider(`_´) · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 4737 **Location:**

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

parr does, but not much with that weak light buff.
mostly only with dodging scrolls.
most noticable while fighting people who hit alot, i.e. bladers(chains) or many green mobs bashing you.

OT:
Attack hawks for a full str bower since the attack is low anyway and the attack hawk will be hitting high compared to the bowers attacks

Attack rating hawks for more int sided bowers (1:1-full int) since they have a very high damage
and the attack hawk wont make much of a difference in the massive damage out put.
so its to maximize the massive damage.

... joymax should've made both hawks accessible at the same time

Aiyas · **Posted:** Sat May 30, 2009 12:01 am

If there is any truth to what the last hawk book does(from what i saw on Konpaku), then it might be worth it to bet both types of hawk.

EDIT:

from http://www.silkroadonline.wiki.br/skill ... =740#skill

Mastery 120
MP 4.189
Required skill Lightning Hawk Summon Level 12

Continuous hours 900 Secound
Physical attack power 4.744
Attack rating 41 Increase

But again, this is supposed to be at lv 120, so take it for what it's worth.

Messiah · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 397 **Location:** Around

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

I agree with you. I have both farmed but I like Lightening Hawk a bit more because it does a considerable amount of damage maxed. But like I said I have both farmed so I switch it up every now and again.

AR is important BUT I think its funny when someone dies to my Lightening Hawk lol

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons

PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.

Vinyl · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 515 **Location:**

Why is this in GD?

Fury · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1596 **Location:**

Azilius wrote:

PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons

PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.

This. And AR does make a dif especially when u combine it with devil bow.

Diaty · **Posted:** Sat May 30, 2009 1:30 am

Azilius wrote:

PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons

PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.

I hope you are saying higher crit damage, as the in the higher end of the damage, not increase in chance of getting a crit. Otherwise, I agree fully, and I do the same.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

Diaty wrote:

Azilius wrote:

PvE
Use DPS hawk for obvious reasons

PvP
AR hawk.
The chance to have a higher crit..well you're a bowmen I shouldn't need to explain.

I hope you are saying higher crit damage, as the in the higher end of the damage, not increase in chance of getting a crit. Otherwise, I agree fully, and I do the same.

I thought that was a given

Tig3ress · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 1800 **Location:** Zion

tuinman159 wrote:

Tsume wrote:

I've always liked the Black and Lightning Hawks more. Attack Rating, like Parry Ratio doesn't make a big difference.

not a big difference??
omg, have you ever played sro? use a trigger scroll and see the difference, jeesus f*cking christ

HAVE A SNAP

Kori0129 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 362 **Location:** Hungary

stop using Jesus's name for expressing yourself in a vulgar way. It's annoying :banghead:

Attack Ratting is important .

loveisintheair · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 352 **Location:**

Kori0129 wrote:

stop using Jesus's name for expressing yourself in a vulgar way. It's annoying :banghead:

+1

Kori0129 wrote:

Attack Ratting is important .

Doesn't tell me much. After reading through the whole thread, I am still not sure which one to go with.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

loveisintheair wrote:

Doesn't tell me much. After reading through the whole thread, I am still not sure which one to go with.

Both.

DPS for PvE
AR for PvP

Posted a bit up there ^

Fury · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1596 **Location:**

If you had to choose 1 tho, id go for AR.

Barotix · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 9250 **Location:** Sand

Not C&S.

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