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JustOnePlz
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Post subject: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:37 pm |
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we should all know by now that current jewel box event gives stones of varying degrees with 0% assimalation, now i figured i might as well waste all of mine considering your cant sell bcuz no1 will buy a 0% stone, now idk if im having some crazy luck, but i went through 5 str stones and 7 int and 3 luck(8dg), and they all worked, not one failed, all ina row, all in hotan(i only mention hotan cuz ppl say the lag in hotan makes alchemy fail) you think im having super luck? or are other ppl finding this too?
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:39 pm |
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are you saying that 0% stones have a lower chance of succeeding? if so, then you, my friend, are full of shit.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:41 pm |
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oOYunaOo wrote: are you saying that 0% stones have a lower chance of succeeding? if so, then you, my friend, are full of shit. that doesnt make sense, 0% stones shudnt work and im telling you mine have, learn proper grammar
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:42 pm |
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He is saying they have a higher chance
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:43 pm |
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its like steady.... 100% success....but u can get str 1-6 
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:44 pm |
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0% stones are the absolute BEST you can get. It means they CANNOT Assimilate, and I believe they will ALWAYS work and never fail also. Just look at astral, immortal and steady stones. 0%. You were mistaken and dumb for using them.
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JustOnePlz
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:46 pm |
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zShared wrote: 0% stones are the absolute BEST you can get. It means they CANNOT Assimilate, and I believe they will ALWAYS work and never fail also. Just look at astral, immortal and steady stones. 0%. You were mistaken and dumb for using them. why was i dumb for using them? i do like str and int blues on my shit, your dumb for not using a full proof stone
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:48 pm |
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JustOnePlz wrote: zShared wrote: 0% stones are the absolute BEST you can get. It means they CANNOT Assimilate, and I believe they will ALWAYS work and never fail also. Just look at astral, immortal and steady stones. 0%. You were mistaken and dumb for using them. why was i dumb for using them? i do like str and int blues on my shit, your dumb for not using a full proof stone You have no idea how much they're going to be worth in a few months when everyone is capped =) you're just putting them to waste on 1st tier shitty gear, lol.
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oOYunaOo
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:48 pm |
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JustOnePlz wrote: oOYunaOo wrote: are you saying that 0% stones have a lower chance of succeeding? if so, then you, my friend, are full of shit. that doesnt make sense, 0% stones shudnt work and im telling you mine have, learn proper grammar um, me learn proper grammar? LOL look who's talking. dude you're an idiot, 0% are the best, what do you mean they shouldn't work? gtfo.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 6:50 pm |
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oOYunaOo wrote: JustOnePlz wrote: oOYunaOo wrote: are you saying that 0% stones have a lower chance of succeeding? if so, then you, my friend, are full of shit. that doesnt make sense, 0% stones shudnt work and im telling you mine have, learn proper grammar um, me learn proper grammar? LOL look who's talking. dude you're an idiot, 0% are the best, what do you mean they shouldn't work? gtfo. hmm shows me right there, ive always thot the % was the likely hood of sucess, well ty for flaming me into my place
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:43 pm |
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It even says what the % is for on the stones: 0% assimilation (assimilation does not mean success).
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:48 pm |
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0% means that they wont assimilate anything...as far as success i have no idea if it means they will never fail or not..
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:52 pm |
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xKingpinx wrote: 0% means that they wont assimilate anything...as far as success i have no idea if it means they will never fail or not.. It does now. 0% refers to the assimilation. Afaik, the probability of succeeding or failing is still 50/50. I don't know the formula or algorithm Joymax uses for that.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 7:52 pm |
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0% stone will only change the stats that the stone is intend to change. It will have 0% of changeing any other stats. It does not mean it have 0% of success. And It is not like steady and astral stone. I've use a few and it does fail, but will not assimilate other stats.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:00 pm |
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givemetone wrote: 0% stone will only change the stats that the stone is intend to change. It will have 0% of changeing any other stats. It does not mean it have 0% of success. And It is not like steady and astral stone. I've use a few and it does fail, but will not assimilate other stats. ty, legit, complete info, thanks for clearing everything up givemetone ftw
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:23 pm |
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Sunwhores will pay billions for those stones.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 10:49 pm |
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JustOnePlz wrote: hmm shows me right there, ive always thot the % was the likely hood of sucess, well ty for flaming me into my place
So you've been buying 35% stones since you've been playing ?
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:11 am |
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I used one.. And it Failed. So far 0/1 Means 0% Success rate. Let's hope try#2 can of set those odds, else this guys might be on to something 0.o EDIT: Woot 40% Parry increase on pants  Looks like they do work (I knew the whole time btw)
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:53 pm |
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now i find why i m able to sell this shits 35% stones.
First of all Asimilation isnt same as luck so all stones 0,5,10,20,35% has same chance to make stat 0-100%. This asimilation is probability that also other stat will change. So for example when u put STR stone with 35% it means that when alchemy succed there is 35% chance that it change also other stat for example INT.
Usualy when u make set u want all 100% so when u put most blues on 100% u afraid that next stone will damage other stat, so usualy ppl use 10% stones.
So now that stones with 0% are best stones which u ever can get on sro. It means u have same luck to succed but u cant damage other stat. I would use it when i would drop some shield with 100% block or so...
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:41 pm |
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mine have failed. not assumilated another attribute but they have failed
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givemetone
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:23 pm |
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Quote: now i find why i m able to sell this shits 35% stones.
First of all Asimilation isnt same as luck so all stones 0,5,10,20,35% has same chance to make stat 0-100%. This asimilation is probability that also other stat will change. So for example when u put STR stone with 35% it means that when alchemy succed there is 35% chance that it change also other stat for example INT.
Usualy when u make set u want all 100% so when u put most blues on 100% u afraid that next stone will damage other stat, so usualy ppl use 10% stones.
So now that stones with 0% are best stones which u ever can get on sro. It means u have same luck to succed but u cant damage other stat. I would use it when i would drop some shield with 100% block or so... You have it right, but I want to add something. Even if the alchemy fails when u use a stone other then the 0% stone, other stats can still assimilate.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:50 pm |
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that the higher assimilation % stones also have a higher chance of success. I've spammed the 0% stones and gotten 1 to work out of 8. Most of the time the stat goes to 0% because of success or stays at the same % you started with.
I do agree that these stones will be worth a lot of money later as the sun wh0res try to perfect their weapons.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:09 am |
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givemetone wrote: Quote: now i find why i m able to sell this shits 35% stones.
First of all Asimilation isnt same as luck so all stones 0,5,10,20,35% has same chance to make stat 0-100%. This asimilation is probability that also other stat will change. So for example when u put STR stone with 35% it means that when alchemy succed there is 35% chance that it change also other stat for example INT.
Usualy when u make set u want all 100% so when u put most blues on 100% u afraid that next stone will damage other stat, so usualy ppl use 10% stones.
So now that stones with 0% are best stones which u ever can get on sro. It means u have same luck to succed but u cant damage other stat. I would use it when i would drop some shield with 100% block or so... You have it right, but I want to add something. Even if the alchemy fails when u use a stone other then the 0% stone, other stats can still assimilate. Actually, if you fail the stone, you will NEVER assimilate anything.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:18 am |
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RUMS wrote: Actually, if you fail the stone, you will NEVER assimilate anything.
Now that's incorrect. I had one recently that assimilated my mag attk. It failed with an INT stone. So Yes it can happen when you fail.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:27 am |
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Blackdragon6 wrote: RUMS wrote: Actually, if you fail the stone, you will NEVER assimilate anything.
Now that's incorrect. I had one recently that assimilated my mag attk. It failed with an INT stone. So Yes it can happen when you fail. no its not, how can you fail a stone + assim.....  he is right if you stone fails there will be no assimilation
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:42 am |
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huejas wrote: Blackdragon6 wrote: RUMS wrote: Actually, if you fail the stone, you will NEVER assimilate anything.
Now that's incorrect. I had one recently that assimilated my mag attk. It failed with an INT stone. So Yes it can happen when you fail. no its not, how can you fail a stone + assim.....  he is right if you stone fails there will be no assimilation +1, i did ALOT of alchemy and never had a single assimilation when a stone failed. Ur assim must`ve been on a stone you tried earlier and didnt realize it assimed. Or else -> Provide SS plys.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 6:00 am |
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JustOnePlz wrote: we should all know by now that current jewel box event gives stones of varying degrees with 0% assimalation, now i figured i might as well waste all of mine considering your cant sell bcuz no1 will buy a 0% stone, now idk if im having some crazy luck, but i went through 5 str stones and 7 int and 3 luck(8dg), and they all worked, not one failed, all ina row, all in hotan(i only mention hotan cuz ppl say the lag in hotan makes alchemy fail) you think im having super luck? or are other ppl finding this too? assimilation means how much is it going to influence other properties of the item. Assimilation is no good as far as i know, the assimilation means mainly degradation of other item properties than those defined by the stone.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:41 am |
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RUMS wrote: Actually, if you fail the stone, you will NEVER assimilate anything.
Now that's incorrect. I had one recently that assimilated my mag attk. It failed with an INT stone. So Yes it can happen when you fail.[/quote] no its not, how can you fail a stone + assim.....  he is right if you stone fails there will be no assimilation[/quote] +1, i did ALOT of alchemy and never had a single assimilation when a stone failed. Ur assim must`ve been on a stone you tried earlier and didnt realize it assimed. Or else -> Provide SS plys.[/quote] -1 I had ...magic reinforce dropped at 41% from 83% ant the stone failed !!! EDIT it was a challenge stone
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:14 am |
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All i can say after alot of alchemy, when u fusing a stone u can get this as result:
- success, no assimilation - success, with assimilation (it can be good, it can be bad; it's ur luck) - fail, NO assimilation
For these 8,9,10d stones with 0% assimilation probability all u need to do is pray to work (lol) cause they can fail (they are not like steady) but u can be sure that they will NEVER assimilate any other stats.
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Post subject: Re: Regarding Event stones Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:14 pm |
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God, is it so hard to understand? Assimilation % means, the probability of the stone changing an other attribute, designated on the stone itself.
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