wondering how much joymax makes

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

wondering how much joymax actually makes a year from sro

if even 100 people on a server just bought premium gold just the $20 one thats 2k times 30 servers $60,000 a month

now thinking sp ticket 100 people also buying the 7.80 sp ticket 4 week gold, 780 times 30: $23,400 a month

plus 100 buying pet clocks, 500 times 30 = $15,000

plus a new avatar every month or so i'll go ahead and average this one at 60 sold per server, 60 times $13 =780 times 30 = $23,400
and accessories plus hat at lower rate of sales say 30 per server for the combo at $4.50 times 30 times 30 = $4050 a moth

new pets sold a month lets guess 20 per server for attack pets 20 times 13 times 30 = 7,800
ability pets lets say 35 a month, 8.8 times 35 times 30 = 9240

these alone easly = $142,890 a month not counting other random scrolls from mall or people buying prem +

12 months $1,714,680 they've broken 1.7 m a year with only moderate estimations of silk purchases.

_MvP_ · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 1423 **Location:**

Dont forget globals, they earn the most from them.

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

true... so about 500 packs per server sold a month at 1.40 = 700 a month average per server times 30 = 21,000 a month and $252,000 a year

idk 500 packs almost seams too many sold but every server has like at least 8 people that use a full pack of a globals average a day, and a mass of people who just casually buy them, plus others that use them for recruiting.

not sure i'd guess as high as 500 because alot of globals get charged back

so pushing about 1.8 to 1.9 easily with globals

to figure this out right we need an accurate spending habits survey

Crumpets · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 7800 **Location:**

Aggggges back someone posted their yearly earnings here. Shame I can't find it with search or google.

But was something like 5-60million.

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

foudre wrote:

true... so about 500 packs per server sold a month at 1.40 = 700 a month average per server times 30 = 21,000 a month and $252,000 a year

idk 500 packs almost seams too many sold but every server has like at least 8 people that use a full pack of a globals average a day, and a mass of people who just casually buy them, plus others that use them for recruiting.

not sure i'd guess as high as 500 because alot of globals get charged back

so pushing about 1.8 to 1.9 easily with globals

to figure this out right we need an accurate spending habits survey

I asked my union once how much they all spend, you honestly wont believe how many people spend close to 100 euros a month x__X
i still think your estimations are really "modest" lolz

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

LillDev!l wrote:

foudre wrote:

true... so about 500 packs per server sold a month at 1.40 = 700 a month average per server times 30 = 21,000 a month and $252,000 a year

idk 500 packs almost seams too many sold but every server has like at least 8 people that use a full pack of a globals average a day, and a mass of people who just casually buy them, plus others that use them for recruiting.

not sure i'd guess as high as 500 because alot of globals get charged back

so pushing about 1.8 to 1.9 easily with globals

to figure this out right we need an accurate spending habits survey

I asked my union once how much they all spend, you honestly wont believe how many people spend close to 100 euros a month x__X
i still think your estimations are really "modest" lolz

I can believe 100 a month for silk plus bot cards /gold maybe was those 100 euros really all toward joymax?

I mean thats 130 american almost, what are they spending it all on?

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

foudre wrote:

what are they spending it all on?

GameGuard obviously...... :banghead:

/edit/ >___> nvm then...4am semi reading posts :roll:

LillDev!l · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2587 **Location:** OTL&OG

Corrupt wrote:

foudre wrote:

what are they spending it all on?

GameGuard obviously...... :banghead:

He ment my union members i believe

its a legit union though ^^ so not on bots/ goldbuying overall, with exeption of a few closet botters.
They spend a lot on reverse returns / globals but also some gender changers etc > Prem plus > devil spirit > pet, way to many people just buy basicly any silk suit that comes out T_T ... you know

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

lol per month they spend about what i have in total over my silk career. But how many people average per server actually spend like this compared the amount that don't even buy anything or those who buy moderately

Corrupt · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 548 **Location:**

What are you getting at anyways, you're numbers could in fact be less than what people really spend on. Even though it would be hard to believe enough people consistently buy prems for 12 months but new players (if there are any?) I guess would fill those slots.

Unless keeping servers up plus maintenance is a ton I'm sure JM banks enough overall. Where would a estimated number fit into the question though? Are you trying to compare it to something?

foudre · **Joined:** Jul 2007 **Posts:** 3604 **Location:**

just random curiosity inspired by another thread, the one saying if they sold sro to another company.

Just trying to make a moderate guess to joymax's minimum income based spending habits, of players.

I bet it doesn't cost very much to run joymax they got like 10 employees.

firefox6 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1485 **Location:**

i think your numbers are low. when i new "dress" item come out i see well over 60 people.. the first one to come out 50% of the server had one..
i think they make a lot more then what your number say.. i know people that spend 400 a month easy (they have a few account) the number are a lot higher then what you think..

chechen · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 20 **Location:** jordan

don't forget the pets and the avatar and the stuff the people buys, he maybe makes like 150k+ a month.

Furious · **Posted:** Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:43 pm

i remember seeing an article that says that JM earns 18m a year.

willemdt · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 120 **Location:**

idk how much they get but to many for what we get:P
but i think they will never make it to blizzard because they earn on the game, month payment en 6,5mil people play it so count that out:P

lopasas · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 733 **Location:**

1.7m a year
do you really think joymax will start to ban bots?
lol....

sting13 · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 689 **Location:**

I actually read an artical on mmosite that stated that joymax makes 19million USD per year, i cant seem to find it now though

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

lopasas wrote:

1.7m a year
do you really think joymax will start to ban bots?
lol....

I'm inclined to think that way as well...If their yearly earnings is 1.7mill then thats real low...even if it was 10 mill a year, when you subtract the operating cost from that they still aren't making as much money as they would like to. Especially when compared to other games out there now. No wonder why so many players that bot and have a steady silk history with them aren't being baned...Back in the day the bot ban list included everyone..not just gold bots..

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

lopasas wrote:

1.7m a year
do you really think joymax will start to ban bots?
lol....

Yeah when botting was rarely seen, but now it's just.. You really can't ban every single botter. Why? You lose majority of your income. That was there mistake. Being lazy earlier on to prevent all this. If they prevented it then more users would actually be playing and more money would've been earned.

At least what I believe.

AnarChaos · **Posted:** Fri Mar 13, 2009 5:17 pm

There is a Turkish proverb I can use as reply:

A rich man's belongings will tire a poor man's jaw.

Hennessey · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 459 **Location:**

thats probably alot less than they actually make.

premuims per server is probably ATLEAST 250, if not alot more

also almost all high lvl's and alot of low lvls have either a silk atacking or pick up pet, usually both.

globals are being used constanty 24/7

each new avatar gets atleast 100 buyers of the full set, and a handfull of people who just buy the hat or something

then theres astrals, scrolls, all that fun stuff

so id say 4+m per year 0.0

trane · **Joined:** Jun 2008 **Posts:** 186 **Location:**

Joymax stated : ->

dorkus · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 151 **Location:**

my union master buys the maximum amount of silk every month on 3 chars. he spends money like it's nothing to him.... it simply amazes me.

JustaDude · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 686 **Location:**

i spend like 200$ monthly.

bojeeng · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 173 **Location:** Germany

Im planning on spening 25$ =)
And will probably spend more in the future

William-CL · **Joined:** Feb 2007 **Posts:** 7363 **Location:** N/A

foudre wrote:

true... so about 500 packs per server sold a month at 1.40 = 700 a month average per server times 30 = 21,000 a month and $252,000 a year

idk 500 packs almost seams too many sold but every server has like at least 8 people that use a full pack of a globals average a day, and a mass of people who just casually buy them, plus others that use them for recruiting.

not sure i'd guess as high as 500 because alot of globals get charged back

so pushing about 1.8 to 1.9 easily with globals

to figure this out right we need an accurate spending habits survey

Remember that ppl can't buy just 7.8 silk at a time. They are forced to buy them in Quantities of 50($5) 100($10) 300($30) 500($500). Sp the Money they earn is prolly a little higher with 100 people

iscared · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 715 **Location:**

Remmber thrsite has adds so theyget about $300 dollars aday from that and there site is pretty popular so there site gets them alot of money.

piXie_niXie · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 666 **Location:**

you have to take in account the cost of the server and bandwidth which is ALOT

Brago · **Posted:** Fri Mar 13, 2009 11:41 pm

To be RIIICh

1. make game

2. over charge premium stuff in it that helps alot

3. win

twixmawyyy · **Joined:** Feb 2009 **Posts:** 27 **Location:**

There's no real way of knowing the EXACT amount of money Joymax makes per year/month.Though I'm pretty sure I've seen a thread speaking of the amount Joymax made out of silks.Personally,I think your approximations are very underneath what they really make.

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