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taintofsleep stop.

Im not stupid, and theres no need to mock my intelligence because you are too ignorant to understand what i am saying.

Let me put this in a way you MIGHT understand.

I hate NON-botters

that HATE botters

based solely on the fact that a botter. is BOTTING.

do you understand?

a NON-botter, who doesnt take the time to get to know the botter, a NON-botter who wont listen to anything the botter has to say, a NON-botter who just outright ignores the botters thoughts and opinions.

Behind that bot, is a person.

And if you get to know the person, you may find that you like them.

IRL You may be best friends with that person.

Im saying i dislike when people just outright hate someone based on the fact that they bot.

I am using the word hate here taintofsleep.

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Don't be prejudice against botters. That is all that I am saying. Botters bot, they have their reasons, and you shouldnt hate them based solely on that.

What i mean is, Dont hate a botter cuz he bots. Find another reason to hate someone, somehting deeper that has some meaning to it at least. Youre gonna hate a botter cuz they cheat in a game? And even if SRO is an "MMORPG" and cheating is "bad" why do you have to outright HATE them? Find another reason to hate. Maybe theyre annoying, maybe theyre full of shit, but what i tend to find is that botters are more calm and relaxed about SRO than legit people tend to be. Thats why im defending botters.

im not defending the act of botting.

Just the people behind the bot.


If anyone doesnt understand what im saying, theres no need to flame me over it.

I apologize for pissing you off taintofsleep, i didnt know speaking my mind was so volatile.

I have read all the posts because I don't feel like grinding right now so I am stalling while I read this, NOT BOTTING.
As I said I have read all the posts and the best one by far is this one (no offense to everyone else)

Very very well put.
Now this is why I HATE yes HATE botters.
1. They are all over the place making it take 5 times longer to level up while grinding because we all just one hit nuke all my kills I am a weak build its only my second char so it takes along time for me to grind specialy with bots.
2. They make it take longer to do quest, example I just had to kill 2,000 death flowers, it took me 4 days when I know I could of done it in one if I didn't have botters all around me, and i have 1,000 more to go (I know almost everyone here has done that quest)
3. They take up space in the server and make it hard to log on, and make lots of lag.

I really really do not see the point of botting, I am only level 34 and I am a weak build but I am proud of my char because I have worked hard on it, I bet I have more sadisfaction with my level 34 100% legit char then a level 70+ botter. ITS DUMB, you downloaded the game why the hell are you having a computer play it for you, you dont send a bot to work for you,you dont send a bot to school,or a bot to watch your kids, or make dinner,do homework, any other of the many things you may have to do. I know thats real life this is a game but its the same type of thing its just dumb and pointless.
I hate botter more then scammers,gold buyers or whatever you want to call um, yes thats dumb and nubish but if you think about it, its just another way of playing the game, its personaly not a way I would do it but W.E.
Finaly i read a few posts about people saying that people who by stuff from the item mall are dumb, thats not dumb, its how the game is paid for, if it wasn't for them then we wouldnt have a game, im most likly not gunna buy stuff from it but thats just me.
On a different note

If you think its so dumb then why are you posting here? Yes it does make sense for us to post what we think, how do you know that an SRO GM or staff member isn't reading this right now, this is obvisouly a very popular forum.
One last thing this might show you guys how much i hate botters, I warn you this is a very boring video but i made it, and all it is me killing bots watch its sometime when you are STALLING or TAKING A BREAK NOT BOTTING, or just when your bored.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHnkOfKYF2U

Rate = Herpes?

Maybe they are calmer because they don't go through the frustrations of lvling "against" a botter, they don't care if it takes several hours to login because "server crowded" ( due to too many BOTs in game ) because they don't actually sit at the pc trying to login.

People who actually want to "play" can't play because servers get packed.

Last saturday i kept trying for a few hours to login, i even checked other servers to see if they were same, every single server was Crowded.

I agree with everyone else who on this topic has posted "Why get a game to PLAY then NOT play it." it is senseless, stupid and yes they are totally selfish people who don't care how many people they stop logging in who want to sit at their computers and really play the game like it was meant for.

To me any who claim not to bot but support botting they must be gaining from it somewhere, items or partying or gold, because if you wasn't ( and you can't proove either way so lets not start an arguement over it ) then you would understand why so many dislike people cheating this way.

Being KS'd by another player is frustrating, being KS'd by a bot is bloody annoying.

Ight Check It.....
Wow Can't belive no one has pointed this out but here goes....
I don't play anymore so....now i can give you my opinion....

JM has the same IP as srobot when you send $$$ thru paypal for the botcrd....add 1 and 1 u get..... exactly......
If you don't get what i am saying is that JM is the acctual bot programmer which is why the srobot works so well on SRO and if you try to bot on another game a bot can be very iffy and very easy to pick out. SRO its not as easy

In Conclusion: It's all a scam for The Greatest Free MMO to make more money....and it's legal....
Of couse there not gunna bann a DucK_Egg or a SpiritPower they buy silk and Bot crd....

All you clowns and your morals...Fluk them it's a Game Bot Away...Hence the name Botroad Online.....

Note: To all you Avalanche's/ NB's/People who "knows" that i botted when i played, I only know the ip info because i bought a botcrd for a very dear friend of mine that i am sure u know.....

Peace
Yea Boi !!

lol, this thread just got interesting

I'm not sure where you people are getting your IP address information from. According to tools on DNSstuff.com, here's the results of

bot369.com: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=bot369.com&type=A

bot258.com: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=bot258.com&type=A

silkroadonline.net: http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/lookup.ch?name=silkroadonline.net&type=A

All of the IP addresses for the 3 domains above are different from each other, and different from those posted in above replies. I don't see how the botcards are in any way related to the IP address information I'm getting for Joymax.

Lunacy - Your point about nightbloom and other people who hit lvl 77+ so quickly, is a bit flawed. If you work your character right, you can grind harder and better than a bot can. Bots are a bit inefficient because of how they move. Often times running into walls, or pausing somtimes between kills, things like that. If done right, a real human player can grind more effectively than a bot can. The only "good" thing about a bot is it stays on 24/7. So it's still possible for a legit person to play their character and level pretty quickly.

You say legit players are jealous because we don't have bots and have to sit in front of our computers 24/7? Well I say botters are jealous because legit players such as myself can play this game, level up, and still live our lives. I'm married, have an 8th month old daughter that I spend a lot of time with, and a full time job in IT security, and I still find time to play SRO legitimately. The main reason I level a bit slow is because I'm a pure str blader (low damage, slow leveling), I tend to job a lot and chat with friends more than actually grinding, and don't get to play for several continuous hours straight - which makes efficient grinding kind of hard.

No SS = no proof
PR0METHEUS has SS => he has proof

So i hope, someday, u'd be scammed and your account would be hacked.

And you should know better that at this day, life is unfair.

People take any advantage they can get to win and compete against another.
We don't live in a fking pink world do we, this isen't heaven, this is earth.

This apply's to almost everything, it' comes down to personal attitude and character. If you want to win in anyway, i repeat, in ANY WAY, then cheating wiil be applied aswell.

Cheatins isen't fair, but it determines who win's and who lozes, and on sro, botters won, and are still winning.

I don't give much credit to someone who makes false claims (claiming Joymax = botcard distributor) to "prove a point". Why would anyone be jealous of a botter? The only thing a botter has going for him is he gets to level cap quicker than *most* legit players... but what's so great about that? What does that prove other than the botter is too lazy to play the game the right way? I'd never bot because there is no sense of accomplishment by just starting up a bot, walking away, coming back a few weeks/months later and finding I have a farmed/capped character that I put zero effort into.

As for your point of not getting screwed over in real life by hacking... hacking is hacking. It is illegal, and it CAN come back to bite you later.

Enough with the meaningless conversations about bots.

Let me put it this way:

People who are dedicated to achieving level 80 on theire own,with theire own hands,are worthy of nothing but admiration.

People who use other resources besides the item mall are not worthy of admiration.

You play a game because it appeals to you.
You play a game because you want to get stronger.
You play a game because you want to explore the wide open world which that game has to offer.

You play the game because you want to know what's behind that mountain..

You play because of the interactions with other players and make friends over the whole world.

Gaming is interaction.

If you don't manually game,you don't interact.

The only thing you're computer is doing while it's botting is wasting power.

Interact or get off the servers and take the lagg with you.

i love bot. bot is very nice to me and kills the monsters for me.

here is a picture of bot:

Lol I love this 4x who thinks hes tough shi.t. Hacking is hacking it will ocme back to haunt you LOLZ @ that. Guys wanna learn about brute forcing accounts. Google> Remote password cracking. Wanna bot? http://www.bot258.com. Wanna scam? Learn to quickly chnage prices and press accept. While your on that brute forcing thing everyone please take the time to try and brute force the avalon unions acocunts. Maybe if nothing at all comes out of cracking their p/w's maybe we can give them a Farking life.

I dislike bots because-
They take up slots on the servers
They make there be less mobs to go around for real players
It is an unfair advantage for someone to get the same level as another person not only doing nothing, but more than likely in a fraction of the time.
For some reason bots seem to bhave much better luck with drops.
Someone can just bot up characters and sell them to random people and make a profit.
They create huge amounts of gold (gold bots) which gold buyers buy which allows them to outpay everyone else, which results in prices gradually catching up to their offers, which ends up with us legit players getting screwed over not being able to afford anything.
It is against the TOS

Think taht pretty much sums up all the possible reasons..

That's a debate that is as old as mmorpgs are.

I just started playing silkroad online only a few days ago. And I am honestly disappointed(not surprised tho) that there are botters in this game too. If you look back in mmorpg history you can clearly see that not enforcing an in-game law against botters (macroers too same thing) ultimatly led to the downfall of lots of them.

I take for exemple Asheron's Call. I played this game for 3 years and I had the most fun out of all the computer games I've ever played. And after a while macroers appeared. Turbine (the company running Asherons's Call) did not start to enforce some kind of law against third party application being used in-game. So after some time, macroing became a standard in-game. And if you didn't macro, there was no way you could compete in pking.

And all the other classic thing happened, the economy got screwed, there was always a fix number of players in-game so the lag was hard to handle.

And turbine HAD to add high level content because the macroers were everywhere screaming for content for their level. What impact did it have? It reduced the content made for the people who did not macro. And people who did not macro (including me) started leaving the game because it was starting to become ridiculously hard to keep up with people that did not even play the game the way its meant to be played!

So all I have to say is that if you love Silkroad online and you wish for the game to keep going a long time, the company that runs this game is going to have to find a way to enforce anti-botting measures because it was proven with its predecessors that a game which could be fun for a lot of people, could end up being full of botters and ultimatly die from it.

so that's what i think, feel free to flame away and sorry if there are any spelling mistake =P english is not my first language =P

Have a nice day

Why shouldn't I loathe someone who cheats on a test? They are ruining the curve, ruining the school system, and they get grades they don't deserve. The good thing is, they learn absolutely nothing, and later in life, they're going to get caught with bigger things and be a failure at life.

Btw: nightbloom is only lvl 73...

I personnaly don't hate botters but god knows how I hate what they do to the game and what they do the other legit players experience of the game.


Hating the person? naww...
Hating the fact that they don't care about anyoneelse's experience of the game and they only wish to become the best by *any* means including botting? yesss.....

Ok lol I love how you complain about bots taking up server traffic. What about the people who sit in town all day wiht a ..... stall. What about the people who sit in town after dying just standing their all day. Lol atleast the bots are getting something done. Be jealous cause you dont have one. Oh and lol Im not gonna get hacked, I do the "hacking" quote un quote. W/e ANYONE about lvl 75 at this point in time is without a doubt A a bot or B sits there all day grinding. Lol WoW is soooooo much better than this game you people have no idea. Ask Stacie =)

I really love how people who use bots always attack the smallest reason why people dislike botters.

What do you have to say about how it screws up the economy?
What do you have to say about how it removes hunting spots for real players?

Why do you only respond to the lag factor which is one of the smallest?

The reason is simple: you know that all of these are true yet you attempt justify your actions with the only fact you can work on out of all the facts that were told here?

So you think botting can be justified because people stay logged in with stalls or just sitting down?

Sitting down I would say yeah youre right but at least they don't modify other people's experience of the game, and people in stalls use a *feature* of the game.

So please try to find another reason to justify the fact that you can't play the game the way it's meant to be played.


I'm pretty sure botters can find better reasons. but none can argue the fact that it ultimatly screws up the game experience for others.

omfg.

shut the fu­ck up.

all you people do is complain about bots. botting is not an issue of morality. there is no such thing as morality. its an issue of breaking the EULA, the law of this game. of course, there is nobody actually around to enforce this law. GM's wont do anything. you have to do it yourself. if you see a bot, then fu­cking kill it. dont dick around chatting with people or taking screenshots. just kill it. anyone who tries to kill you after that, kill them too. you must take the law into your own hands. this is how law is crafted in a land unruled

little extreme but if it helps get rid of them

i also agree partly that it is the people behind the bot. a good example of this is Lunacy and Sdub. the trash of the world. these people are the ones who are the drug dealers, the potheads, the kids in your school who fail everything and you hate them with every fiber of your being. the people behind the bots.

You, are an idiot! ha haha ha ha ha ha ha hahaha !

you are on the same level as spiritpower!

hahahahaha ahahahaha hahahah!

Lol good luck with that lvl 36. Lol another one. Jealous. Anyway about the econ thing. Who cares? lol. your alllllll jealous. Cause people who bot can have a life and be leet in sro at the same time.

wow that's what I call an intelligent comment based on facts.....


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