Hey, New Billion in town!

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

hi_babe_ wrote:

Quote:

Like I said it's the player that matters not the character

if the charcater doesn't matter why did you accept it ? :roll:

if you lvl a character from lvl 1 that won't matter to you, since the player that matters will be in front of the screen.

Everyone can lvl a char himself, even you man !

:love:

fair players :love:

lol, you got me there. But then again, I can't turn down an offer like that now can I

So, getting this character from a friend doesn't mean I didn't play fair, it has nothing to do with it. Though I always think about playing my own character to the fullest, from lv1 to lv70 fully farmed, earned everything legitly my way. But then again, I will do so when cap is raised

I know what you're saying, but then again I didn't want to back down from this offer.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

GaiaX wrote:

o.O.. no comment.. no comment at all...

nightbloom 101

Dont mess with nightbloom

POP QUIZ!

Q: What is a bad idea on SRF?
A: Messing with nightbloom.

YAY Everyone passes but Chaud and the WOW butt brigade.

Sorry for mucking up your thread Gaia.

Key-J · **Posted:** Sat Nov 11, 2006 6:43 pm

soz to go OT.. but NB did you see my PM?

Blackchocob0 · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 2840 **Location:** HIV, CA

Welcome to the forums...where you're gonna find a lot of people that disrespect you for not training that account up yourself.

I'm not one of those people though. Sup man.

Suppaman · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 1346 **Location:**

draquish wrote:

Some Random Dude wrote:

To All:
I am not here to harm or anything, but want to be treated as someone new. Even if I didn't work my ass off to get this account to where it is, doesn't give you the right to criticize me because I accepted a friend's offer.

I am here to start new, new everything. New friends, new reputation, I understand why you guys dislike he former Billion, and there are many reasons why. But are you seriously going to treat me as he was, or you going to treat me as a new?

I am throwing old facts, old rumors, old reputation of this character, and starting over and making this character as new as I can. Please don't just come and criticize me for being a Account buyer, botter, or gold buyer because "I am not", even if it "was" to concern this character. That is the past, and my point is this is the new and you should be treating the new as it is.

Theres a button called "Create." It allows you to create a new character from scratch. U should try that. These kinds of things ruin the whole MMORPG point.....u should make a character...see what u like...stick with it....then u become ub3r and pwn every1

, as I always say, "Levels dont matter, Its the player behind the level that truly makes a difference."

CSS(example):

Noob with AK47<Master with knife

LOL thats sooooo true. lol I luv knifing peeps. My friend is like pro and taught me how to knife. lol. I play 1.6 though. Cs_italy and pool day(i also just found out about scoutzknivez

, so noob i am) are the best places for me to knife.

As for Billion, Whatever floats your boat man. I like starting from scratch and getting memorable moments along the way, but dont really give a funk if you got a high lvl account without lifting a finger. so.... welcome!

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

Gold buying, ccf, botting, sharing accounts, and anything of that nature is against the rules no matter who does it. It shouldn't matter how nice the person is. If you didn't work hard to obtain that level then you don't deserve it.

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world. How bout we all just take shortcuts and allow it? It this was to happen the value of grinding to the lvl cap would decrease. Its great for a new player to see a lvl 70 and admire to train to get that far(thinking that the lvl 70 got their legitly). But what if that lvl 1 player found out that the lvl 70 just botted, shared accounts, or broke any of ToS while getting there? I'm pretty sure the lvl 1's respect for that character will decrease if not be curious and ask for a way to break the ToS also. In the case that their is multiple high lvl characters in the area that also got to their lvl by breaking the ToS then its going to give the lvl 1 player a thought to break the ToS in order to achieve that lvl also. This becomes perpetual and eventually leads to everyone that can or want to, breaking the ToS, or those that can't quitting or attempting strive against the odds. Others may continue to play for their own personal reasons.

Welcome to SRF. You have my respect as a person but not my respect as a SRO player. Each time you kill a character equal to or below your lvl, wear or use any type of equip or items below the starting gear, use any skills above you lvl 1 with that character, you didn't deserve to.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world.

WOW What part of the real world are YOU living in? Networking and using your contacts is the number 1 way to get a job. lol

As long as that char was hand made, who cares who plays it?

HolyMan666 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 45 **Location:**

Uber_Wang wrote:

Sorry dude it doesn't matter how you got the account, it's lame.

You deserve no respect because you've done nothing to deserve it.

Until you've done what we've done it's the same lame-ass bs as buying an account.

Go grind a few hundred thousand monsters and then come back say hi

In game you'll find people won't care so much but it's pretty goddamn gay to come here with a lvl70 account, that you did not create and expect a hug.

Grrrr....

I agree with this statement

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

Gold buying, ccf, botting, sharing accounts, and anything of that nature is against the rules no matter who does it. It shouldn't matter how nice the person is. If you didn't work hard to obtain that level then you don't deserve it.

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world. How bout we all just take shortcuts and allow it? It this was to happen the value of grinding to the lvl cap would decrease. Its great for a new player to see a lvl 70 and admire to train to get that far(thinking that the lvl 70 got their legitly). But what if that lvl 1 player found out that the lvl 70 just botted, shared accounts, or broke any of ToS while getting there? I'm pretty sure the lvl 1's respect for that character will decrease if not be curious and ask for a way to break the ToS also. In the case that their is multiple high lvl characters in the area that also got to their lvl by breaking the ToS then its going to give the lvl 1 player a thought to break the ToS in order to achieve that lvl also. This becomes perpetual and eventually leads to everyone that can or want to, breaking the ToS, or those that can't quitting or attempting strive against the odds. Others may continue to play for their own personal reasons.

Welcome to SRF. You have my respect as a person but not my respect as a SRO player. Each time you kill a character equal to or below your lvl, wear or use any type of equip or items below the starting gear, use any skills above you lvl 1 with that character, you didn't deserve to.

Okay, but you see. I have obtained that level. To add to that, I obtained it three times. And I agree, Gold buying, account buying, botting is against the rules. But if you can find sharing accounts is show me because I didn't see that anywhere. Though I am not sharing, this account is given, not bought or shared.

Basically, I appreciate that you respect me as a person, but as a SRO player, you need recgonize that I didn obtain a level like that and obtained similiar items. You can oonly complain about how this isn't acually my character. "But it is now, so what is there to complain about?"

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world.

WOW What part of the real world are YOU living in? Networking and using your contacts is the number 1 way to get a job. lol

As long as that char was hand made, who cares who plays it?

Agreed.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world.

WOW What part of the real world are YOU living in? Networking and using your contacts is the number 1 way to get a job. lol

As long as that char was hand made, who cares who plays it?

Did I say it wasn't?

It breaks the ToS. No exceptions.

HolyMan666 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 45 **Location:**

New Billion, no matter what you think, you will never be the same "lvl" as all of us. You took the easy way to pwn everyone. This game about lvling and farming and such, but you will never experience it the same way as us. So what if the cap comes, it doesnt matter. You are no different than if you bought the account or botted. You are the same lvl as all of those people.

Anyway welcome to the forums....

P.S. take a look at the qoute under my sig and let us see what you think.

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

To All: So you're saying you're going to dislike "me" because I am not the original owner of this character?

Are you really going to let that thought get in the way of everything involving me? If not then there is no point in disliking this fact now is there?

HolyMan666 wrote:

You are no different than if you bought the account or botted.

There is a difference, and inevery difference and similarities, there are opinions, and that is your opinion. You're opinion and view in this is that, everyone is different from legitness unless they do everything themselves.

Others view that "somethings" are to be legit, and "some other things" are not to be legit. And taking/playing a character "given" to you and now being the "owner" doesn't fall under the category of not being legit.

Note: "it doesn't matter how I obtained a character, it's more of the fact how I am playing the character and playing the game with the other players around me".

Can I get an Amen or another flame?

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

GaiaX wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Gold buying, ccf, botting, sharing accounts, and anything of that nature is against the rules no matter who does it. It shouldn't matter how nice the person is. If you didn't work hard to obtain that level then you don't deserve it.

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world. How bout we all just take shortcuts and allow it? It this was to happen the value of grinding to the lvl cap would decrease. Its great for a new player to see a lvl 70 and admire to train to get that far(thinking that the lvl 70 got their legitly). But what if that lvl 1 player found out that the lvl 70 just botted, shared accounts, or broke any of ToS while getting there? I'm pretty sure the lvl 1's respect for that character will decrease if not be curious and ask for a way to break the ToS also. In the case that their is multiple high lvl characters in the area that also got to their lvl bybreaking the ToS then its going to give the lvl 1 player a thought to break the ToS in order to achieve that lvl also. This becomes perpetual and eventually leads to everyone that can or want to, breaking the ToS, or those that can't quitting or attempting strive against the odds. Others may continue to play for their own personal reasons.

Welcome to SRF. You have my respect as a person but not my respect as a SRO player. Each time you kill a character equal to or below your lvl, wear or use any type of equip or items below the starting gear, use any skills above you lvl 1 with that character, you didn't deserve to.

Okay, but you see. I have obtained that level. To add to that, I obtained it three times. And I agree, Gold buying, account buying, botting is against the rules. But if you can find sharing accounts is show me because I didn't see that anywhere. Though I am not sharing, this account is given, not bought or shared.

Basically, I appreciate that you respect me as a person, but as a SRO player, you need recgonize that I didn obtain a level like that and obtained similiar items. You can oonly complain about how this isn't acually my character. "But it is now, so what is there to complain about?"

This is not different than other korean MMORPG's. You grind hard to become strong. You didn't level that character yourself, as such, you don't deserve to be playing it. If the GM's wanted everyone to be level 70 then they would have given us level 70 characters to start with.

And no one is complaining, at least I'm not. Just stating reasons why it is wrong.

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

GaiaX wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Gold buying, ccf, botting, sharing accounts, and anything of that nature is against the rules no matter who does it. It shouldn't matter how nice the person is. If you didn't work hard to obtain that level then you don't deserve it.

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world. How bout we all just take shortcuts and allow it? It this was to happen the value of grinding to the lvl cap would decrease. Its great for a new player to see a lvl 70 and admire to train to get that far(thinking that the lvl 70 got their legitly). But what if that lvl 1 player found out that the lvl 70 just botted, shared accounts, or broke any of ToS while getting there? I'm pretty sure the lvl 1's respect for that character will decrease if not be curious and ask for a way to break the ToS also. In the case that their is multiple high lvl characters in the area that also got to their lvl bybreaking the ToS then its going to give the lvl 1 player a thought to break the ToS in order to achieve that lvl also. This becomes perpetual and eventually leads to everyone that can or want to, breaking the ToS, or those that can't quitting or attempting strive against the odds. Others may continue to play for their own personal reasons.

Welcome to SRF. You have my respect as a person but not my respect as a SRO player. Each time you kill a character equal to or below your lvl, wear or use any type of equip or items below the starting gear, use any skills above you lvl 1 with that character, you didn't deserve to.

Okay, but you see. I have obtained that level. To add to that, I obtained it three times. And I agree, Gold buying, account buying, botting is against the rules. But if you can find sharing accounts is show me because I didn't see that anywhere. Though I am not sharing, this account is given, not bought or shared.

Basically, I appreciate that you respect me as a person, but as a SRO player, you need recgonize that I didn obtain a level like that and obtained similiar items. You can oonly complain about how this isn't acually my character. "But it is now, so what is there to complain about?"

This is not different than other korean MMORPG's. You grind hard to become strong. You didn't level that character yourself, as such, you don't deserve to be playing it. If the GM's wanted everyone to be level 70 then they would have given us level 70 characters to start with.

And no one is complaining, at least I'm not. Just stating reasons why it is wrong.

I understand what you're saying. but it doesn't matter if I leveled this character or another, at least I have experienced it. On top of that, you wouldn't really be stating any reason about this at all if you were offered a character like this as well. Nobody would be stating anything or giving any complaints.

Like I said it doesn't matter. It also doesn't make sence if you're going to let something like this get in the way of getting to know someone as a SRO Player.

It is the outcome that counts, so the outcome is that I am now the owner of this character, even if I didn't do the work, I am going to treat it as I did.

I don't see you stating any reason about poweleveled characters, why me? And if your going to now, just think abou a person hiring other people to contruct a house for them. Because it seems like your saying they don't deserve to live in the house cause they didn't build it themselves.

XuChu · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2429 **Location:** here

HuyFong wrote:

For people who pride themselves on being police for legit-ness some of you are proving once again you're nothing but incompetent assholes who have nothing better to do then to make others feel bad in order for yourselves to feel good.

Everything from a simple hello to a question thread have been degraded, flamed to death by you. Don't you feel ashamed of yourself? You even go down low enough to use sexual languages to degrade people? Please, I might hate you for your stupidity and lamess - especially for causing all the shit then comes out as a a gold duper - but I will not go low enough to use those ways and languages to argue with you. I mean in the end that's what ya'll want right? To piss people off and make them feel bad about themselves?

This is not second grade guys, grow up. Want to argue? PM me like a man. If you wanna start a flame war, start it in a thread about me, don't pull it into other people's introduction posts. And if you like WoW, why aren't you flaming their forums. Simple as that.

Now if you excuse me I'd like to welcome Billion to the forum - have fun man. If you ever have any questions PM me. The thing I care about the most is having another nice fun and helpful forum member.

QFT!

and stfu Chaud, if u dun care wat others think about u , why shuld u think any1 cares wat u think about them?

and New Billion i suggest u go around helping ppl for awhile and etc etc then ppl wont have all this hate.Except for a few golddupers,b1tchs who have a whore in there avatars, etc etc

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

XuChu wrote:

HuyFong wrote:

For people who pride themselves on being police for legit-ness some of you are proving once again you're nothing but incompetent assholes who have nothing better to do then to make others feel bad in order for yourselves to feel good.

Everything from a simple hello to a question thread have been degraded, flamed to death by you. Don't you feel ashamed of yourself? You even go down low enough to use sexual languages to degrade people? Please, I might hate you for your stupidity and lamess - especially for causing all the shit then comes out as a a gold duper - but I will not go low enough to use those ways and languages to argue with you. I mean in the end that's what ya'll want right? To piss people off and make them feel bad about themselves?

This is not second grade guys, grow up. Want to argue? PM me like a man. If you wanna start a flame war, start it in a thread about me, don't pull it into other people's introduction posts. And if you like WoW, why aren't you flaming their forums. Simple as that.

Now if you excuse me I'd like to welcome Billion to the forum - have fun man. If you ever have any questions PM me. The thing I care about the most is having another nice fun and helpful forum member.

QFT!

and stfu Chaud, if u dun care wat others think about u , why shuld u think any1 cares wat u think about them?

and New Billion i suggest u go around helping ppl for awhile and etc etc then ppl wont have all this hate.Except for a few golddupers,b1tchs who have a whore in there avatars, etc etc

Yup, that's what I plan to do after my tests and exams next week. :cry:

Thanks for the suggestion.

Skitsefrenik · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 1692 **Location:** Maryland

you would think everybody in this forum know how these threads end up.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world.

WOW What part of the real world are YOU living in? Networking and using your contacts is the number 1 way to get a job. lol

As long as that char was hand made, who cares who plays it?

Did I say it wasn't?

It breaks the ToS. No exceptions.

Actually it doesnt. No money exchanged hands therefore not selling JoyMax property. THe account isnt shared. THe word shared implies plural persons playing that account. They are not. One person played it before, now a different person is playing it with the former no longer on it. No where in the TOS does it say giving away an account is prohibited.

I even looked and they list account sharing as a punishable offense, but do not define it.

JoyMax TOS wrote:

The sale of items and accounts for real money/goods, other game account/item sale, illegal joint account sharing

The Billion account is not being "Joint account shared" because legally "joint" means

law.com Dictionary wrote:

joint
adj., adv. referring to property, rights or obligations which are united, undivided and shared by two or more persons or entities.

research and logic ftw

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

Skitsefrenik wrote:

you would think everybody in this forum know how these threads end up.

Yeah, but to try to sort the situation out I had to.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

GaiaX wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

GaiaX wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Gold buying, ccf, botting, sharing accounts, and anything of that nature is against the rules no matter who does it. It shouldn't matter how nice the person is. If you didn't work hard to obtain that level then you don't deserve it.

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world. How bout we all just take shortcuts and allow it? It this was to happen the value of grinding to the lvl cap would decrease. Its great for a new player to see a lvl 70 and admire to train to get that far(thinking that the lvl 70 got their legitly). But what if that lvl 1 player found out that the lvl 70 just botted, shared accounts, or broke any of ToS while getting there? I'm pretty sure the lvl 1's respect for that character will decrease if not be curious and ask for a way to break the ToS also. In the case that their is multiple high lvl characters in the area that also got to their lvl bybreaking the ToS then its going to give the lvl 1 player a thought to break the ToS in order to achieve that lvl also. This becomes perpetual and eventually leads to everyone that can or want to, breaking the ToS, or those that can't quitting or attempting strive against the odds. Others may continue to play for their own personal reasons.

Welcome to SRF. You have my respect as a person but not my respect as a SRO player. Each time you kill a character equal to or below your lvl, wear or use any type of equip or items below the starting gear, use any skills above you lvl 1 with that character, you didn't deserve to.

Okay, but you see. I have obtained that level. To add to that, I obtained it three times. And I agree, Gold buying, account buying, botting is against the rules. But if you can find sharing accounts is show me because I didn't see that anywhere. Though I am not sharing, this account is given, not bought or shared.

Basically, I appreciate that you respect me as a person, but as a SRO player, you need recgonize that I didn obtain a level like that and obtained similiar items. You can oonly complain about how this isn't acually my character. "But it is now, so what is there to complain about?"

This is not different than other korean MMORPG's. You grind hard to become strong. You didn't level that character yourself, as such, you don't deserve to be playing it. If the GM's wanted everyone to be level 70 then they would have given us level 70 characters to start with.

And no one is complaining, at least I'm not. Just stating reasons why it is wrong.

I understand what you're saying. but it doesn't matter if I leveled this character or another, at least I have experienced it. On top of that, you wouldn't really be stating any reason about this at all if you were offered a character like this as well. Nobody would be stating anything or giving any complaints.

Like I said it doesn't matter. It also doesn't make sence if you're going to let something like this get in the way of getting to know someone as a SRO Player.

It is the outcome that counts, so the outcome is that I am now the owner of this character, even if I didn't do the work, I am going to treat it as I did.

I don't see you stating any reason about poweleveled characters, why me? And if your going to now, just think abou a person hiring other people to contruct a house for them. Because it seems like your saying they don't deserve to live in the house cause they didn't build it themselves.

If someone offered me a character like that I would not accept. There is no sense of accomplish knowing I did not earn any of that myself. The value of the character would be nothing to me.

Knowing how much time and hard work it takes to get to level 70, why would I want to know a person in game that did not put in any hard work or time to get that character to where it is now?

I didn't state anything against powerleveling but I'm against that also.

You hire people to do something because you're incapable of doing it, you don't feel like, or you don't want to do it. Its doesn't break a law or anything. Building homes is a service provided to the consumer.

Technically the account was sold to you for free. It wasn't a tradeoff or anything. Selling something doesn't necessary mean the seller has to profit from the exchange.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

Technically the account was sold to you for free. It wasn't a tradeoff or anything. Selling something doesn't necessary mean the seller has to profit from the exchange.

Wrong again. JoyMax DOES define selling.

JoyMax TOS wrote:

The sale of items and accounts for real money/goods, other game account/item

law.com Dictionary wrote:

sell
v. to transfer possession and ownership of goods or other property for money or something of equivalent value.

HuyFong · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 1051 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world.

WOW What part of the real world are YOU living in? Networking and using your contacts is the number 1 way to get a job. lol

As long as that char was hand made, who cares who plays it?

Did I say it wasn't?

It breaks the ToS. No exceptions.

Actually it doesnt. No money exchanged hands therefore not selling JoyMax property. THe account isnt shared. THe word shared implies plural persons playing that account. They are not. One person played it before, now a different person is playing it with the former no longer on it. No where in the TOS does it say giving away an account is prohibited.

I even looked and they list account sharing as a punishable offense, but do not define it.

JoyMax TOS wrote:

The sale of items and accounts for real money/goods, other game account/item sale, illegal joint account sharing

The Billion account is not being "Joint account shared" because legally "joint" means

law.com Dictionary wrote:

joint
adj., adv. referring to property, rights or obligations which are united, undivided and shared by two or more persons or entities.

research and logic ftw

Nightbloom, have you ever considered a career in law? :love:

when you make it big as a federal attorney you can be my sugar mama

ShizKnight · **Joined:** Mar 2006 **Posts:** 3104 **Location:** _______

nightbloom wrote:

GaiaX wrote:

o.O.. no comment.. no comment at all...

nightbloom 101

Dont mess with nightbloom

POP QUIZ!

Q: What is a bad idea on SRF?
A: Messing with nightbloom.

YAY Everyone passes but Chaud and the WOW butt brigade.

Sorry for mucking up your thread Gaia.

wer in ur forumz recruitn ur plyrs.

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Technically the account was sold to you for free. It wasn't a tradeoff or anything. Selling something doesn't necessary mean the seller has to profit from the exchange.

Wrong again. JoyMax DOES define selling.

JoyMax TOS wrote:

The sale of items and accounts for real money/goods, other game account/item

law.com Dictionary wrote:

sell
v. to transfer possession and ownership of goods or other property for money or something of equivalent value.

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

Its apparent that some things like taking shortcuts and getting someone you know to help you get a job over someone that is more qualified in the real world.

WOW What part of the real world are YOU living in? Networking and using your contacts is the number 1 way to get a job. lol

As long as that char was hand made, who cares who plays it?

Did I say it wasn't?

It breaks the ToS. No exceptions.

Actually it doesnt. No money exchanged hands therefore not selling JoyMax property. THe account isnt shared. THe word shared implies plural persons playing that account. They are not. One person played it before, now a different person is playing it with the former no longer on it. No where in the TOS does it say giving away an account is prohibited.

I even looked and they list account sharing as a punishable offense, but do not define it.

JoyMax TOS wrote:

The sale of items and accounts for real money/goods, other game account/item sale, illegal joint account sharing

The Billion account is not being "Joint account shared" because legally "joint" means

law.com Dictionary wrote:

joint
adj., adv. referring to property, rights or obligations which are united, undivided and shared by two or more persons or entities.

research and logic ftw

I stand corrected.

Is it possible before you to keep a impartial tone while proving a point? I'm pretty sure caps were not necessary and was "research and logic ftw?" really necessary.

My point still stands though. If the GM's wanted everyone to start with level 70 accounts then they would have made that so.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

HuyFong wrote:

Nightbloom, have you ever considered a career in law? :love:

when you make it big as a federal attorney you can be my sugar mama

lol Research is what I did for a living. Law is boring, SRO is fun. SRO can make legal terminology fun, but on it's own..boring. lol

Ill be your sugar mama anyways tho Huy... Come to mama.

Reise · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 6650 **Location:**

You guys that are getting all bent out of shape because Gaia didn't grind that character should lay off a bit. I'm sure he/she doesn't give a crap if you spent months grinding yours and pulling yourself to the top. At least I know I wouldn't in this situation. Besides, it's not like Gaia's posting left and right bragging about it. You guys just keep whining and crying about it.

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Da_Realest wrote:

My point still stands though. If the GM's wanted everyone to start with level 70 accounts then they would have made that so.

I suppose emotionally, your point does still stand.. But logically, it has more holes than a coke can in a Tennessee gravel pit.

GaiaX · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 150 **Location:**

Reise wrote:

You guys that are getting all bent out of shape because Gaia didn't grind that character should lay off a bit. I'm sure he/she doesn't give a crap if you spent months grinding yours and pulling yourself to the top. At least I know I wouldn't in this situation. Besides, it's not like Gaia's posting left and right bragging about it. You guys just keep whining and crying about it.

I do care about how you guys worked for it. I admire that, but as you said, that doesn't mean you guys get on me.

Still overall referring to all, there is no point to prove if all you're doing is trying to flame me for getting an account that was given...

Da_Realest · **Joined:** Apr 2006 **Posts:** 2435 **Location:**

nightbloom wrote:

Da_Realest wrote:

My point still stands though. If the GM's wanted everyone to start with level 70 accounts then they would have made that so.

I suppose emotionally, your point does still stand.. But logically, it has more holes than a coke can in a Tennessee gravel pit.

Its not emotionally its a given. Just starting at level 70 would not give reason to most of the game. There would be no reason to have mobs or equip levels 1-63.

Still don't understand why you keep insulting me.

MrJoey · **Posted:** Sat Nov 11, 2006 9:04 pm

Da_Realest, Gaia has said 2-3 or more times, that he/she's gotten 3 char's to level 70. That kinda makes your whole logic.... dumb.

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