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Mm sorry once again, but why did Vinyl get banned? I m sure I ve seen him a lot around and he posted a lot, but didn't saw why he got banned??
Because he posted a thread full of sh!t like the the first quote said? Please clarify. Thanks

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amidoinitrite?

The reason I called you simple minded is because you lack the ability to understand both sides here; you won't even consider both sides. They don't have to have a program playing, that's what you fail to understand. You're continuing to act like botters are brain-washed, worthless, arrogant(some are of course), piece of shit scum and not actual people. I know plenty of SRO players who have searched out other games with no long-term luck, which resorts them back to having some relation to SRO. You do realize some people are TRYING to find a game to legitimately level in, right? They are waiting for the right game. Until then they find an alternative to occupy time when their not busy with something else.

After that it's all about routine I'm sure you know that, once you get in a specific routine you enjoy that routine and repeat it. Doesn't matter what it is, people don't like changing their routine in life or online.



I wasn't saying legits have to focus 12 hours a day, I know most don't. Casual players are great, I used to have numerous friends that would share PT grind their 3 hour gold ticket at 9pm everyday, then stall or log off. Trust me, I know. However, you were acting as if botters like Amalie do spend 12+ hours a day putting full focus, money, attention on SRO. That's what I fail to understand from you. You do realize botters use ventrilo's too, right? Botters even bot with other friends in share parties, sure it may not include the actual physical social part, but they ARE still interacting. If you want to argue they aren't as social IN-GAME as legits are, then fine, I'll give you that. But, their is no difference being social through forums, MSN, AIM, IRC, etc. when it comes to botter vs. legit. I haven't been around many legits? Looks like you're the ignorant one.



You're right, it is a game, yet so many people seem to take it for more, legits and non legits. The frustration and anger that plays a part of peoples game mentality is beyond what it should have to be. Plenty of botters started SRO back in November 2005, plenty have already hit 60 at 60 cap, 70 at 70 cap, 80 at 80 cap, the game slowly became worse. THAT is when they gave up their addiction, that is when they said, you know what, I don't like this game enough to legit level in. Some are just stuck in the routine, but I wouldn't call them addicts, others are patiently waiting for all these hyped 2010 / 2011 games to come out. I'm also sure plenty fell into the "I'm just going to do what everybody else is doing" scenario, which is too bad, but it's what happened. For the few that are still extremely competitive like Amalie, it's like what I said before, higher and higher goal setting. Nobody deserves to ruin legits experience, but once programs and anti-legit tools are made, which opens new doors to goal setting, they inevitably will be used once all old interesting goals have been achieved.



I'm not hating on anybody, but you seem to be. She needs help only in your head, too bad you feel that way. She's banned from here, of course she can't defend herself and the main reason I posted was to answer the legitimately good questions and attempt to clear up a few things. Every story deserves to have two sides. Rumors, assumptions, accusations, etc. are a big part of why every story needs to have someone who has knowledge to explain, and people like you to test those explanations. It's a good thing. She could care less what anybody has to say about her, people who know her know that quite well. This isn't about that, her ego isn't torn in pieces, trust me.



Addiction and botting don't go hand in hand, looks like you're the one who hasn't been around too many botters, have you? You seem overly knowledgeable about all of them personally. If I was out to troll I'd do a much better job. You're posting plausible arguments, I'm answering as to why I don't think those arguments are fully functional on their own. Simple. I completely understand why you feel spending money the way some people do on SRO isn't worthwhile and is rather foolish, but you're pushing it way to far when it comes to how absurd it really is. If people can pay their bills and have a steady living it shouldn't be seen as foolishness. You can argue it's a foolish sense of priorities, but who are you to decide someones priorities. What I think is foolish and absurd are the people who buy all the luxuries in life to act important/rich/well off only to be unable to keep their lives in check. I bet you feel the same way.



That once a cheater always a cheater statement isn't as true as you think. She'll be legit leveling just like the rest. She IS a person you know. If she enjoys it enough of course she'll drop SRO, if not she has something to fall back on until the next fun game. Again, simple. You implied that she was so screwed up she couldn't possibly do anything else, that she was beyond addicted and unhealthy. Your posts before hand seemed to fall into the extreme scheme of things.



She has self-control in the sense that she can quit when she wants to, she doesn't need anyone to pry her away from the game like your acting. She found joy in SRO by turning her char into a piece of art this cap. She'll quit when she finds a better alternative. Some people hate all the games that are out right now believe it or not.

Irony isn't lost on this forum, I'm the only problem you have, leave it at that. I didn't come here to defend botters or aid my own problems, people just fail to understand certain concepts of cheaters. It's the same thing over and over on this forum when it comes to this topic, it was time for someone to post back. I came here to, for once, go through a decent 2 sided argument. I don't care what you say, people are reading regardless. People like you are too busy acting like it's Man vs. Machine. This isn't a terminator movie. Get over yourself.

No, you just look stupid now. Well done.

**** me why is this thread turning into another debate about bots? It wasn't fun to start with trying to flame the subject in question, when they aren't even able to reply back. Botting = cheating in the game. Doesn't matter if the person is a saint or satan himself, **** him it isn't that hard no matter how you look at it. If you cheat then players who don't have all the right to discriminate against you. It's that simple, so get it in your head saigon.

Also, unless Amalie had a sex change, last I check he had a penis and balls in between his legs so he is a he. Well **** it if he wants to pretend to be a girl to suck more virtual dick then who am I to judge.

Nah I understand it. When it comes to SRO or any other game really you have 3 choices. 1. Play the game as intended. 2. Decide the game is not worth playing to you and quit. 3. Be a douche and cheat ruining the game for everyone else trying to play. What don't I understand.




It is all about how they treat people. This is an MMO. I have cheated on plenty of PC games. Thing is they were all single player and the only person I hurt was myself. People who cheat etc on an MMO hurt others. They either outright ignore the fact or tell themselves soothing things like "everyone else is doing it so it is ok" if they happen to have a concience to get in the way. I never said they are worthless. I never really said much about them outside of the game. But as far as the game is concerned they are all a bunch of immature inconsiderate jerks. Can you honestly say otherwise?



AKA ruining SRO for all those that actually want to play it. Tons of us have gone on to other games. It is not hard. There are lots of other games out there. That your friends can't find another really comes down to 2 things. 1. they have not really tried. 2. They are clining to some "percieved" investment in SRO and are not willing to give another game a chance. Take it from someone who has themself and knows many others who have found other and better games. The people who can't are the people who ultimatly don't want to.



It is still inconsiderate. I hate inconsiderate people. Anyone who actually knows me will tell you the kind of person I am. And that is very considerate.



Never said that. If they did that then why do they have the bot? See that does not make sense and is why I did not say that. What I said is they can't bring themselves to actually stop or just be happy with what they have. They are so tied to the game that they still have to have more or better etc whatever the cost no matter who they trample on tho get it. This is what the 3rd time know you have put up a straw man on this point. I never said or implied any of those things.



Ventrillo != SRO. If they wanna be social on ventrillo that is fine. Just log off SRO if they are not actually gonna play. Simple right? And I was friends with several of the leaders etc of the big time botting guilds on Xian. Went on their ventrillos from time to time. I can talk to them as a person etc and know that some of them are ok people but I still let them know that they should not be doing what they are doing and how foolish it was for them to complain about the game as they were the ones causing the things they complain about.



Giving up the addiction is quittting the game not botting. Botting is keeping the addiction. Just so you know.



Does not make it right so quit trying to defend it. It is not some lame ass goal setting. That is not some defense. It is wrong period. People just do it because they ignore the victims.



Not really you are one of a minority here defending her and for what?



Srsly go back to lurking you fail.

You people type too much on an internet forum O_o

With that I mean ping and that shai guy

+100
i just scroll down .. cant ever read all of that.

same here

He wouldn't stop trolling so they banned him for being a constant problem.

Alright, lets wrap this up. We said what we needed to.

We both can agree SRO has gone in a completely wrong direction, it isn't what games are supposed to end up turning into. The few that still play are surprisingly determined, don't like change, or, yes, are addicted to what they've grown playing with. SRO contains two worlds, the bot/cheat world and the legit world, it still surprises me how not-connected those two groups are after so long.

That is another reason people like Amalie don't need to be subject to posts on this board, there is no connection / appreciation so it needs to be left alone. It's interesting to see the separation between the two and the difference of opinions, rivalries and feuds tend to fuel a lot of competition within itself.

someone takes the internet a bit too seriously

Thanks for clarifying.

That is the point of forum, sharing experiences and debate about something.
After quite a while, great quality post on SRF. I enjoy reading what they have to say, but I dont want to get into that
discussion because I'd be able to say alot about it. I'm kinda on Saigon side at this matter.


All I will say that Silkroad is a botting game and I dont blame botters at all.
The thing that ruins the game are goldbots, nothing else.

Its Joymax's fault there are player bots, the core problem is that Exp & SP requirements
are unacceptable for a typical human who is working / going to school. It was okay with 90'th cap,
but 100 cap is just too much and I dont even want to think about upcoming 110'th cap.
Now dont say you CAN enjoy the game at full potential if you are not capped, because that is a joke.


Seriously, who are you kidding?

Hushhush, for saying that you'll be bashed with "those are words of a botter"

I'm not playing SRO...

Dunno the way you talk they are not doing anything wrong just persuing their goals. But yeah something is wrong.



It is not rocket science. The few that accept them are either not legit themselves or are doing it for something they see as greater such as friendship. Anyone who does not fall in those categories squarely understands and percieves the disrespect on the botters part. Would you be friends with or want to have anything to do with people who constantly disrespect you? I never needed botters and I never got anything from them. I can be friends with them and still disapprove of them as well. But yeah if someone treats people like myself like shit such as KSing botter surprise surprise I tend not to want to be anywhere near them. I know it is irrational and not at all normal. We are supposed to love people who treat us like shit I know. But yeah that is why the oil and water reaction.



The OP has an honest point and even if Amalie didn't bot I would still say that is pretty messed up and abnormal. The whole botting thing only goes to strengthening that assertion. And criticism on the internet is like getting wet when swimming. Unavoidable. I am sure or at least secretly hope perhaps that they talk about me. Meh though good or bad I don't really care. Not like I am actually looking to them for validation or approval. Would just be fun.

So you don't blame the botters you just blame the botters. That would make perfect sense if I were insane. You do realize that often they are one in the same. I sincerely hope so.



Yeah I keep forgetting that we did away with personal responsibility here state side. Or is it that joymax is forcing them at gunpoint to bot? I forget. Trust me joymax has a hefty part of the blame but by no means have the market cornered. The players themselves are responsible for their actions not joymax.

And yes give me a server without botters and I could play the game to full potential without being capped. Give me a server with botters and no one can play the game to it's full potential even while at the cap. It is why I quit. Everyone bots to the cap because everyone bots to the cap and no one jobs because they are busy botting to the cap or having pot matches at the gates of town. Botters almost completely miss the actual point and unique feature of the game. You can PVP in thousands of other games. Name me one other that you can do trade runs etc in. And these little shit heads ruin it.

ping_lo why do you always quote like 6 things at once ...your posts are so long

Compartmentalization of thoughts. It is something like what those people who claim to be legit but accept botters do with morals.

I lol'd

Lol, you KNOW you got own'd when you're stopped arguing on topic and you're doing shit like this.

Also, majin, go check a locked thread in Site Disucssion, it has some reaosns why people where bann'd.

You know what I meant, but I dont know any player bot thats runs 20++ clients, and eats server traffic or ruins game economy - so we cannot have new players in this game.





This is what's the situation in SIlkroad, it IS a botting game.
We cannot change this, dont you think that if level cap was 40, there would be much more jobbing and much less botters? We could have great SRO experience, throw in some titles we can achive to keep us busy and voila. The core problem is high requirements, and people want to keep up with everybody.

stay on topic plz?

There are P-L-E-N-T-Y of them. The fact that you don't know of them or have never heard of them does not mean they are not there.



Sro is a botting game only when the game itself requires bots to be enjoyed and not when the players themselves bot and ruin the game. Because everyone bots on SRO does not make it a botting game. It is stupid little phrases like "SRO is a botting game" that lend creedence to the botters and support them. They are like look even the legitimate players say it is a botting game. And I am assuming you are a legitimate player so just drop it. Now what you need to argue is that the botters have made it impossible to enjoy iSRO at any level to the fullest let alone under cap. I would agree with you and have agreed that the game as exists on the international servers is unplayable. But that is different from saying the game itself is that way because it is not. The game itself can basically be enjoyed to the fullest by anyone over level 20.

OMG!

I am capped and it's crazy hard trying to scroll this page.

OnT - I think that people who made the bots ruined the game, they sold them to gold botters who fill the servers. Player bots, don't care too much about, I mean they have contributed to the fall of SRO, they are apart of the probelm, but not to the extent that the gold bots are.

People who buy gold are also major fucktards, because they support gold companies.

So in summary -

Bot makers - Who started it
Gold bots/companies - Biggest problem
Gold buyers - Second biggest
Player bots - A problem

Player bots are more of a social problem, the only take up 1 server spot and if they don't buy gold they don't mess with the economy but they are still shit players, and their shit at the game, I see no logical rebutal that can convince me botters are good at SRO.

Lol, I justed added to the long posts.

Are you damn crazy??? this guy/girl is just frickin sick/adict, doesnt matter if its ur money or not, if its ur hobby or not, NOBODY IN THEIR FIVE SENSES should spend that much money on a game, he totally needs to get a life and stop wasting money like that.

If he got enough money to live why you care..because you don't.
You said "he should get a life" explain,are you a nerd with a book all day?
Ah yes book you know these thing sometime useless which cost money as well?