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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:23 am 
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This is a good weapon against Unique Hunters also. Right when they are attacking the Unique stop him in his tracks and make him attempt the image code. Fun, fun, stops him in his tracks while you keep attacking the Unique. Or those pesky squishy wizzards in your area? Pull a bunch of mobs on them, or anyone else who is beeing clobbered by a bunch of mobs, stop him in his tracks with the imagae code, and make him die. Or tick off some people that are jobbing, pvping, ect.



Your idea is stupid...



The idea is good, but problem is that Silkroad is full of retarded assholes who abuse every single feature to harass or scam others.

edit: but basically, this discussion is about finding possible exploits, so i welcome your ideas

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:36 am 
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the alert should be put in a corner ... not in the middle ... it's not very user accessible when centered

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:45 am 
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i already say is only valid if you are in COMBAT not idle.


U do know that the system register a person being pwrlvled as in COMBAT rite?
Thats y their Gold Ticket/Premium/Skill Ticket runs...
Unless JM change that, if not... fail.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:03 am 
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i already say is only valid if you are in COMBAT not idle.


U do know that the system register a person being pwrlvled as in COMBAT rite?
Thats y their Gold Ticket/Premium/Skill Ticket runs...
Unless JM change that, if not... fail.


The function should be enabled to peoply who want to participate and would be controlled by human counterpart in joymax team.

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 3:54 pm 
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Are you kidding me? i already say is only valid if you are in COMBAT not idle.

you are in combat if you get hit by mob while standing still and not fighting back too...
go let mangyangs hit you for 3 hours and waste ticket counter...


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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:26 pm 
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ok now wait a minute
only in combat? why the hell like that?
why you should be allowed to be afk doing nothing?
if you dont wanna play, instead of goin afk - log off, and dont use up server space, other active players want to log in

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 4:26 pm 
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I didn’t bother to read the 4 pages preceding. The image code ISNT a problem for gold bots. And could be intergrated into player bot systems. All this would do is irritate legits, like the captcha logging in. and I think it should be signifigantly more than 50k. I also think that there should be a penalty to the flagger if there is a response, such as the flagger gets flagged and after 5 flags they get dc'd with a 10 minute ban.

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:33 pm 
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Still not sure why Joymax would crack down on botters. I don't know if you noticed but there are way more botters that keep joymax's pockets lined than there are legits. You already know that Joymax doesn't want to ban botters, just the bots that profit from farming gold. So why exactly would they adopt a system like this?... To cut their revenue in half?


Forgive me if this is just a couple legits hoping and wishing Joymax wasn't a profitable company, and just wants to make a game that is fun.

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 11:16 pm 
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One more thing to add: When your flagged, it stays in big red flag box in the corner of the screen, under your mini map. It beeps at you every minute, for 5 minutes. After 5 minutes it appears. You can click it at anytime to start it.

Also, go to Rok Mtn on most servers. Try and find a spot with just one bot. It would take 2 hours to ban two bots, and 2/3s of a GT.

A fee is cool and all, but what about legits???? When you were level 30 did you have 50k to spend for that kind of stuff? I am not sure how much a 1* trade is these days, but it can't be more than 200k...Your spending 40 minutes to ban 4 bots over 4 hours. That's if trading was free, and you didn't need potions/pet potions/transport etc.


For the logic problems:
When you create an account, you select primary language. The first time your flagged on an existing account, you can select a language. This is changeable through your Joymax account user settings.


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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
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we have a better chance of getting everyone to sign a petition for JM to do something, that or every1 donates a nickel or something, bots are gay, so many problems, just play...


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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 1:33 am 
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u r forgetting joymax luvs bots, 80% of their cash prolly comes from botters.. they alrdy know ppl bot but they dont bann them.. >_>

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 3:05 am 
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So I'm afk sitting down at dw. I get flagged. lulwut



so get the **** off the game if your not playing , hogging up all my oxygen.

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
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The only real Anti-Bot system is ACTIVE GMs that you can report botters to in game, those that suddenly just appears next to you out of nowhere! RoFL!

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
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personally I think it's a great idea :D

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
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well sur eits a good idea, but what makes you guys that that bot programmers wont make the bot generate the code....or make a 3rd party prog that will do it

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The only real Anti-Bot system is ACTIVE GMs that you can report botters to in game, those that suddenly just appears next to you out of nowhere! RoFL!



But with a system like this, It won't ban the botters. Silk will still be bought, and if they let the botters patch it, then change it every 2 weeks or something.....Do want...


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 6:13 am 
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I like the idea.

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Good idea, but its gonna be hard for you to get Joymax to add that ingame.


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They could easily program a bot to click whatever they have to answer and even enter a captcha as well. You cannot beat their game.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 8:56 am 
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So I'm afk sitting down at dw. I get flagged. lulwut



u cant be flaget in town

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Alot of that sounds good but the first thing that came to mind was a legit fighting a giant, struggling with it desperately and that window pops up. Death =x

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
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Toshiharu wrote:
So I'm afk sitting down at dw. I get flagged. lulwut



so get the **** off the game if your not playing , hogging up all my oxygen.


What if I went to take a shit? What then? D:

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So I'm afk sitting down at dw. I get flagged. lulwut



u cant be flaget in town


I meant like right outside of town. Sitting there.. getting slapped by earth ghosts.

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So I'm afk sitting down at dw. I get flagged. lulwut



so get the **** off the game if your not playing , hogging up all my oxygen.


What if I went to take a shit? What then? D:

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So I'm afk sitting down at dw. I get flagged. lulwut



u cant be flaget in town


I meant like right outside of town. Sitting there.. getting slapped by earth ghosts.

again, if u wanna go afk, just leave the game, or others will make you
other option, take a shit, very, very fast
basicaly ull have 20 secs to take a shit, get back to pc and enter the code

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!)
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:38 am 
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So you're telling me.. I'd like to take a shit, smoke break, eat, play with my balls, etc etc for 5~15minutes then come back to relog for a good 10minutes(I'm cheap no premium)... Instead I should play a real game then D: such as OMFGZ Killzone 2(awesome game)Outrageous!

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 Post subject: Re: The ANTI-BOT system (with screenshots!) READ
PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:41 am 
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Bad idea,very bad idea,very very bad idea....
1)The player is afk=>bye bye(stall or just afk lol)
2)Kid(young turk in majority) will use it as spam,they just hae to connect 20 client etc..and let's start spam.
3)imagine a player in party go to toilet lolol byebye
4)Imagine someone write global,or text,want to make 0 fault,then this sh!t come and disconnect him because he failed to answer..
don't you think people will use it just for fun instead of for bot?

In not to player to dc bot,it's to joymax.



READ BEFORE POSTING

1) READ -dont work in towns-
2) 20 clients? dude get real lol
3) READ -only works if player is in combat-
4) LOL?

READ READ READ A BOOK LOL
OMG THIS KID DONT READ

1:I never said they lust be in town,afaik some people stall outside gate of sarmakand,dw for HL see their stall.
2)it can be 5 clients or 100000000 it's same,they still can spam you.
3)and then what?legit who go to toilet in a party are still in combat,you don't know this?
4)yes this one is impossible just for the fun :p

OMG THIS KID DON'T KNOW HOW SILKROAD RUNNING,
kid yourself retard.

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Man, if i could be GM for 1 day. I would walk around flag people lol!
And the ban hammer would drop on H343V21 Names

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:08 am 
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sorry to burst all Ur bubbles topic starter

There is already a captcha typer , in fact more than one .

The only way i see it is through bringing back Game Guard or any other

protection system, then about 90% of SRO problems would be solved?


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:12 am 
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GameGuard is a piece of shit.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 11:33 am 
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GameGuard is a piece of shit.

cause its disabled,all u see is just pop up of it but again if they use a point system of Game Guard that works like this


1-Give 10 points,and Deduct point upon detection(5 for bot 2 for loader 2 for pk2 modification)

2-if the program can go under game guard then all they need is for them to download the new ver of the bot and make it detectable


3- if 10 points have been taken a player get banned for 6 months


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how bout u flag him while fighting with unique?
lol he might get mad


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