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TheTruth
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:31 pm |
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Megalomaniac wrote: Not to mention how much botting costs -.- 
Those are power leveling services! If you had to pay that much for a bot we wouldn't have a problem in SRO! Plus from what I've heard there around $10 US for like a month..
I dunno maybe someone could correct me if im wrong!
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:36 pm |
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whoever corrects u gonna be flamed 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:38 pm |
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Da_Realest wrote: You bot, you deserve to be banned. Its simple as that. There isn't much of a discussion. Its against the rules. You don't agree with the rules, don't play.
How bout we all go rob the bank, Best Buy, or the local corner store because we don't feel like working hard for the rewards and benefits? Who cares about the law? Who cares about the people who got a job and worked hard to earn the privilege to afford the things they want?
And don't come with the, "its just a game" mindset like many others try to use to justify their reasons for botting and cheating in game. Its obvious that you, and botters don't comprehend the definition of a MMORPG. A MMORPG is much different than a casual game. A MMORPG attempts to emulate a real word, in that the game is persistent, and continues to fluctuate whether you are playing or not. MMORPG's attempt to capture the player, keep them coming back to the world using some form of rewards or tactics to keep the player interested. Since the game is a persistent world, the game is also continuously updated to keep players interested. Silkroad does this by motivating you to grind so that you can gain access to new PvP skills, a sense of accomplishment that all that grinding was worth it, and the main focus, an overall advantage over the rest of the server in the PvP aspects of the game because of your level. A player who grind's to level 80 legitly will probably continue to play because of the time they invested in the game while a botter or someone who bought an account will most likely get bored in the coming months from attaining the level cap too fast or already being a high for all ready experiencing what the game has to offer. Also because they don't have the since of accomplishment that a legit player has after putting in the time and effort into reaching level 80.
You don't have to be a high level in Silkroad to have fun. Its possible to have fun at lower levels. Certainly, the benefits and fun factor of being a higher level are much better than a lower level but you can still have fun. I know people who have been 2x and 3x for about 3 or 4 months now and still have fun playing.
No one says you have to reach level 70 in 1 month or 2 months. No one says you have to reach xx level in xx amount of days. You play when you feel like it or whenever you can.
For some MMORPG's bots mess up the game's economy, the update schedule, or can even destroy a game.
Its just simple microeconomics of each server's economy. At the start, there was no demand for gold. Someone started gold bots and found a market for their product. Their market was probably a group of people to lazy to grind and earn gold their selves and needed an easy way to get gold. These players, no longer legit, caused prices to rise and made it very hard to afford sos or any else type of good gear in game. Some of the legit players didn't like the fact that they struggled to buy the good gear so this gave them a reason to buy gold also. This in turn, hurted those that continued to play legit the most.
People that use bots to level can throw off the game's update schedule. A company may be forced to release a new area ahead of time than they had planned for in order to compensate for the crowded areas and player complaints. In Silkroad's case, they chose not to change the update schedule. The players were left suffering because there was a extraordinary amount of players at the game's level cap that shouldn't have been there. Jobbing is another form of PvP in Silkroad. Players that botted to 70 made jobbing much harder for lower levels than it should have been. Without the bot program, there would probably be only be a handful of level 70's around August and October instead of over crowded grinding areas and ruined PvP. This would also take the hassle off Joymax from dealing with player complaints and quitting allowing them to put more of their resources into more positive aspects of the game.
The worst part that can happen is the destroying of the game. Developers discontinue development for the game because its has become to corrupt to be saved or the capital needed to invest in cleansing the game could be better used elsewhere.
I'm not going to elaborate on the other negative sides of botting because it has already been said.
If your life is to time consuming to play or you're just too lazy, you shouldn't be playing MMORPG's. Their job is to consume time, keep you logged in, and wanting to come back. If you bot levels, babysit your bot sometimes, constantly checking to see how much exp or sp you earned, what level you are today, then who is truly the MMORPG addict?
And no, having a "life" still does not and never will justify botting. If you cannot find a way to integrate playing legit into that wonderful "life" you have, then don't play.
Very True!  Heres an Idea if you get bored of grinding listen to music it always helps!! 
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:55 pm |
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you should at least black out the part "lies" from ryoko sig in order for me to understand
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:26 pm |
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senapanaga wrote: My point is that even though someone may bot you shouldn't hate them based solely on that.
Why not?
This is a game ,if i meet a botter or my worst in-game enemy in real life i would invite him for a drink, but until it is the game they are nothing more then a cheater.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:40 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: of course i read, but not all... and stop that green colour that hurt my eyes. My english is not enough good to understand all the deep meanings about what u said. But most answers that i heard is that ppl dont accept the fact that bot spend less time to play than legit player. Yet, this is only own selfish reasons. If JM allows to bot, would u use bot? If u answer: - yes. U're nothing different than bot that u claim u hate it - no. U're a real legit. The pride come 1st 
I have to put up with botters too often to listen to your twisted point of view.
What the legit player does:play the game how it is meant to be plaiyed; the people that spend more time and put more effort become stronger the others will still have fun becouse won't have to fight char that grinded 24/7 for endless months getting bilions of gold and sp.
What the botter does:Ignore game rules,ignore that he is taking an unfair advantage,ignore that he is screwing the game balance,ignore that when he go out thiefing he is going to affect other gameplay even tho he hasnt done anything to deserve it,ignore that when he kills an unique is taking it away from someone that deserved it and i could go on...
Now tell me how the **** can you say that is the legit one being selfish for disliking botters lol.
Also your question has no relevance at all, if the bott became legal i'd just quit,if you can't understand that Silkroad wouldn't be Silkroad if bott was legal i'm worried for you.
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Post subject: Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:40 pm |
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Alfred wrote: butsumetsu wrote: there was someone i knew awhile back who had really great sos gear and loves to show it around... he claims to be legit and grinds his ass off all day and spends shit load of silk... of course he hates bots to hell and if he could kill them all he would...
but guess what? He buys gold with cash, brags about how much gold he has and he sees no problem with it he even tells others to do the same.
Ppl like these are what makes me neutral or even hate legit players more than botters... yea yea gold bots are bitches and player bots are annoying but at least they dont preach and then just go contradict themselves. AND DONT SAY that this is a special case becuz ive seen WAY too many people acting the same way. sorry, but that guy wasn't legit gold buying is as bad to this game as botting - and not allowed so you can stop hating legit people, because they don't bot, buy gold, hack accounts, dupe gold or scam people (yes I count in this one too)
yea i understand he's not legit but he's in a guild full of underage kids and he's struttin it around as if he actually earned that shit... and if you really think about it, by ur definition theres only wat? 1% legit players since u added scamming to that list
oh btw lets not forget about the self righteous idiots that ks/murder you when they think you bot... I f12 alot because it REALLY helps with my lag... unless your right infront of my face spamming me with the txt bubble i wouldnt know if ur msgn me and when I do get killed by npc thiefs or just someone 1shotting me i see shit spammed all over my pm with BOTTER BOTTER -.- yea gotta love that
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 3:08 am |
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senapanaga wrote: I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.
Whatever though. im out.
Let me rephrase my comment for the more simple minded (senapanaga). Since you obviously don't understand what you said let me explain. You clearly state that you hate legit people who hate botters. Then you say you hate legit people more than you hate botters. With that last line you just said that you hate botters. Understand? I'll pm you with a hooked on phonics website if you want me to.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:01 am |
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taintofsleep wrote: senapanaga wrote: I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.
Whatever though. im out.
Let me rephrase my comment for the more simple minded (senapanaga). Since you obviously don't understand what you said let me explain. You clearly state that you hate legit people who hate botters. Then you say you hate legit people more than you hate botters. With that last line you just said that you hate botters. Understand? I'll pm you with a hooked on phonics website if you want me to.
Dude you're ummm...well you misread it. And I agree with him. It's pretty damn stupid and immature to HATE someone because they bot in a game.  Lol do you guys hate people who cheat on their tests cos you don't?
Cmon I don't like goin on about this but...alot of you people need to grow up.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:23 am |
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Nope, pretty sure I read it correctly. Anyways why is it immature to dislike a person who has screwed you over? I'm sorry, but I don't like people who ruin things for people who actually play the game. If you're not going to actually play then don't ruin it for others.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 4:37 am |
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lol senepegnas statement didnt make sence, I think taintosleep wins this one
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:13 am |
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HOW DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE. He used the wrong comma placements, but come on!!!!!
Legit people who hate botters just because they bot. That's who sena hates.
Understand?
Holy shit.
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taintofsleep
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 5:27 am |
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Lol, he also hates botters if you didn't notice
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 6:36 am |
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I hate the Turk/Viet CCFERs/Scammers way more than i hate bots.
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 8:50 am |
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I dislike botters, cuz they just clog the server and that sux  But since the mass-blocks SRO is rather smooth
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diesiel wrote: I hate the Turk/Viet CCFERs/Scammers way more than i hate bots.
FFS ! Not ONLY Turks and Viets scam and CCF 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:47 am |
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butsumetsu wrote: think about it, by ur definition theres only wat? 1% legit players since u added scamming to that list  if that is true, then it is sad 
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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 12:04 pm |
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Jeronimo wrote: I dislike botters, cuz they just clog the server and that sux  But since the mass-blocks SRO is rather smooth P.S diesiel wrote: I hate the Turk/Viet CCFERs/Scammers way more than i hate bots. FFS ! Not ONLY Turks and Viets scam and CCF 
Ya, you forgot malaysians!

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Post subject: Posted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 11:51 pm |
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I love to bot in SRO. I hate MMO nerds.
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Post subject: Posted: Sat Jan 06, 2007 12:14 am |
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BotKing you're stupid. You hate MMO nerds, and play an MMO. In fact, you like MMO's so much, you use macro's to lvl up faster than everybody else. THAT'S WHAT I CALL A NERD.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:46 pm |
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Blackchocob0 wrote: taintofsleep wrote: senapanaga wrote: I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.
Whatever though. im out.
Let me rephrase my comment for the more simple minded (senapanaga). Since you obviously don't understand what you said let me explain. You clearly state that you hate legit people who hate botters. Then you say you hate legit people more than you hate botters. With that last line you just said that you hate botters. Understand? I'll pm you with a hooked on phonics website if you want me to. Dude you're ummm...well you misread it. And I agree with him. It's pretty damn stupid and immature to HATE someone because they bot in a game.  Lol do you guys hate people who cheat on their tests cos you don't? Cmon I don't like goin on about this but...alot of you people need to grow up.
if someone cheated on a test and it made it harder for me to take the test I would be pissed. that's what botting does to us everyday
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:21 pm |
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Vary nice, sexy time.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:40 pm |
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I dislike botting because it is a very unfair advantage to people that actually grind their asses off on this game. I know very few people above level 70 they have actually got there by grinding. Hell even my old guildies and friends have botted their way up while I grinded. I finally got tired of trying to grind my hybrid above 60 recently and started a new account. After four days I'm already 29, why the hell do people need bots? I mean I have a four week gold scroll helping out a little, but I'm just using stock equipment, and most people I see running around with SOS crap (which I don't know why you would need until at least 32+).
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:55 pm |
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TheTruth wrote: Da_Realest wrote: You bot, you deserve to be banned. Its simple as that. There isn't much of a discussion. Its against the rules. You don't agree with the rules, don't play.
How bout we all go rob the bank, Best Buy, or the local corner store because we don't feel like working hard for the rewards and benefits? Who cares about the law? Who cares about the people who got a job and worked hard to earn the privilege to afford the things they want?
And don't come with the, "its just a game" mindset like many others try to use to justify their reasons for botting and cheating in game. Its obvious that you, and botters don't comprehend the definition of a MMORPG. A MMORPG is much different than a casual game. A MMORPG attempts to emulate a real word, in that the game is persistent, and continues to fluctuate whether you are playing or not. MMORPG's attempt to capture the player, keep them coming back to the world using some form of rewards or tactics to keep the player interested. Since the game is a persistent world, the game is also continuously updated to keep players interested. Silkroad does this by motivating you to grind so that you can gain access to new PvP skills, a sense of accomplishment that all that grinding was worth it, and the main focus, an overall advantage over the rest of the server in the PvP aspects of the game because of your level. A player who grind's to level 80 legitly will probably continue to play because of the time they invested in the game while a botter or someone who bought an account will most likely get bored in the coming months from attaining the level cap too fast or already being a high for all ready experiencing what the game has to offer. Also because they don't have the since of accomplishment that a legit player has after putting in the time and effort into reaching level 80.
You don't have to be a high level in Silkroad to have fun. Its possible to have fun at lower levels. Certainly, the benefits and fun factor of being a higher level are much better than a lower level but you can still have fun. I know people who have been 2x and 3x for about 3 or 4 months now and still have fun playing.
No one says you have to reach level 70 in 1 month or 2 months. No one says you have to reach xx level in xx amount of days. You play when you feel like it or whenever you can.
For some MMORPG's bots mess up the game's economy, the update schedule, or can even destroy a game.
Its just simple microeconomics of each server's economy. At the start, there was no demand for gold. Someone started gold bots and found a market for their product. Their market was probably a group of people to lazy to grind and earn gold their selves and needed an easy way to get gold. These players, no longer legit, caused prices to rise and made it very hard to afford sos or any else type of good gear in game. Some of the legit players didn't like the fact that they struggled to buy the good gear so this gave them a reason to buy gold also. This in turn, hurted those that continued to play legit the most.
People that use bots to level can throw off the game's update schedule. A company may be forced to release a new area ahead of time than they had planned for in order to compensate for the crowded areas and player complaints. In Silkroad's case, they chose not to change the update schedule. The players were left suffering because there was a extraordinary amount of players at the game's level cap that shouldn't have been there. Jobbing is another form of PvP in Silkroad. Players that botted to 70 made jobbing much harder for lower levels than it should have been. Without the bot program, there would probably be only be a handful of level 70's around August and October instead of over crowded grinding areas and ruined PvP. This would also take the hassle off Joymax from dealing with player complaints and quitting allowing them to put more of their resources into more positive aspects of the game.
The worst part that can happen is the destroying of the game. Developers discontinue development for the game because its has become to corrupt to be saved or the capital needed to invest in cleansing the game could be better used elsewhere.
I'm not going to elaborate on the other negative sides of botting because it has already been said.
If your life is to time consuming to play or you're just too lazy, you shouldn't be playing MMORPG's. Their job is to consume time, keep you logged in, and wanting to come back. If you bot levels, babysit your bot sometimes, constantly checking to see how much exp or sp you earned, what level you are today, then who is truly the MMORPG addict?
And no, having a "life" still does not and never will justify botting. If you cannot find a way to integrate playing legit into that wonderful "life" you have, then don't play. Very True!  Heres an Idea if you get bored of grinding listen to music it always helps!! 
In ur case, i heard u like to put a banana in ur ass while u grind >.<
ur gay! 
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Post subject: Re: Do u dislike bot? Why? Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:07 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: Depend. As long as the person has a good personality, always help other ppl. Like GMs, they "cheat" to have lvl 90 account, but they dont do anything harmful to me.
if theyre nice, I'm not too ill-disposed towards them. However, they have disobeyed the rules of the company that made the game, rules that they agreed to when they signed up. It's like.... not following a contract you've signed so that you can unfairly get ahead of the other people who are honoring their contract.
GMs are special 
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:16 pm |
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Hate gold bots because they mess up the economy.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 9:19 pm |
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Bots
1. Hinder your PvE enjoyability by crowding grinding areas.
2. Hinder your PvP enjoyability by killing you with undeserved items/levels.
And while we're on the topic...
CCF'ers suck.
Gold buyers suck.
Peeps who get powerleveled suck.
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Post subject: Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:22 pm |
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Quote: Peeps who get powerleveled suck. Well i don't mind getting powerlevel as long as my friend is willing to powerlvl me during a quest or something but i don't really lvl normaly ill get 15-30% then ill just carry on until a friend offers to power exp me  . But people who pay for powerlvl 1-20-30-40-50-60-70-80 is just a bit stupid because there's no use you playing if you choose to get powerlvld from someone just because you think its hard to lvl up from one lvl to another. Not mentioning anyones name... Quote: In ur case, i heard u like to put a banana in ur ass while u grind >.< ur gay!  ROFLMFAO!! I couldn't help but laugh with what this guy said ROFL!!! oh dam, You you give me tears!!  [/quote]
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 2:57 pm |
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NuclearSilo wrote: I know u guys are very racist about bot. But who said that the person who control the bot didnt play? and he only bot when he sleeps, goes to school? And after school he will play with his own hands?
Note that Silkroad is not only a game that u have only grinding, but it's also a place to meet friends, adventure, discover the fun of the game... that's what a game deserve to be mean.
If u know only grind and lvl up, I think u are a soulless humain-bot who knows only to grind.
wow.... what confusion of ideas could have possibly lead you to believe this is good logic?
If the game is a good place to meet friends, adventure, have fun in the game, you can do that at lvl 1, or lvl 15, or lvl 48. Botting doesn't make it easier for you to meet friends and have fun.
Using your logic, I guess I should hire a stunt double to spend time with my friends and family for me because "I have a life, I don't have time to take my kid to soccer practice." I don't care if a person only bots for 3 hours a day and spends 10 hours actually playing with his own hands. He is STILL a botter and should be banned.
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Post subject: Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:14 pm |
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senapanaga wrote: My point is that even though someone may bot you shouldn't hate them based solely on that.
If you're going to blindly hate everyone that skates just because all your other legit friends hate skaters, then you are no worse than a skater yourself.
(Skating = botting.)
I really hate it when a "legit" person buys gold, then acts all high and mighty just cause they dont bot.
You shouldn't hate someone or wish them ill based solely on the fact that they BOT.
BTW Megalomaniac, you can get 100 points of bot-time for only $7.50...If i recall...And Im pretty sure that each point is something like..2 hours?
ANYWAY.
I hate legit people who hate botters, just because they bot, more than I hate a botter.
Whatever though. im out.
Your skating analogy makes no sense. Certainly, we shouldn't hate all skaters because they skate. A better analogy would be to hate skaters that print counterfeit money so they can purchase pimped up skateboards, or steal other people's skateboards (KSing), or skaters that hire a champion skater to skate in their place in a competition because the skater in question "has a life". If you don't have time for the competition, don't enter into it.
(cheating skater = botter)
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