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As long as you run faster than the thief you can drag it forever. It doesn't stop chasing and aggro someone else like a mob, when you get far enough from it the NPC just vanishes.

Archer thieves hit pretty fast though, and 2 lvl 60+ hits *should* kill them, I think.

Yup. I did mention dying a lot.

Wrong, I'm lvl 41 now, and I use lion shout. Pure Str, lion shout = almost no dmg. Usually it's enough anyways. Once I get the agro, ghost walk away, and just run off and lure it away.

It isn't hard at all to lure thieves away starting at higher 3x. Though, int might have to be more careful.

Well, it's strange, I recall one time that I couldn't for the life of me aggro this NPC that was probably near 70, when I was 48 using nukes. Not much later, certainly before I was 52, I aggroed a 64+ NPC with an unimbued level 1 flying dragon. Go figure.

haha, I did 50% damage in about 2 or 3 minutes to a 60+ thief before it attacked me the other day. It attacked me because it had killed the Camel that it was attacking XD

Indeed, a few thieves are really stubborn and wont leave their current target for anything except the death of the target.

I've experienced moments where not even I at my OWN NPC thieve's level could drag it away from my transport.

ok you're just beating the bush here. you don't seem to have an opinion on the matter any more or have forsaken your plight long ago. now you're just picking at trivial things... of course it's my opinion that they were stupid and mistaken to write it and have already given my support. if you don't agree, i'd be glad to hear you thoughts. don't say i act as if i know everything either. if you are suggesting that the statement is practical then the opposition received should prove to you that it is not. if you say they are ambivalent then you are saying they implicitly support 1* popping contradicts it. sadistic i'll give you, but that's also stupid like i said. if they dont want to fix it or don't think it's a mistake then that's why anti poppers are here?


nothing is engraved in stone.


depends on what you think is more valuable time spent. changing the minds' of a popular forum would save many more innocent traders than just luring one NPC thief away...and give me a break, i have a 35 whacked int nuker/fire bow

besides, if you can't convince your friends to not 1* pop then you are hardly trying.

and cuchulainn:
grow up

And I thought I was trying my ass off here to convince people that it's wrong to do... :3 There's not much else I can do or say, but I know I am trying harder than should be necessary.

zphantom: get a sense of humor

And yet, I quite clearly expressed my personal opinion later in the post, where it belonged - NOT as part of a logical argument.

Well you seem to be predicting the future here, since I never said that. But okay, I will continue not to have said it.

That makes no sense. You think Joymax loses any sleep over the few bucks of income lost due to this thread? Whereas hard coding a patch would take them a lot of effort and divert energies from issues that really do cost them significant revenue - botting and server stability.

No. That they implicitly support 1-star popping is a fact demonstrated by the Q&A to anyone with a good understanding of business politics and language. Their private opinion, like yours and mine, is irrelevant.

1. When you have spent half as much time trying to change people's minds as Moogie or I, perhaps you will begin to understand just how few people are willing to have their minds changed.
2. I was pure int and lower than you when I started doing it.

Pulled that out of your ass, did you? I don't know where else it could have come from, since you have no idea who my friends are. Or did you mean you and cuchulainn? Bit of an odd friendship, that.

No matter how clear I make it that Im not changing my mind, and that I do not care, theres 8 more paragraphs to read.

Sorry, cap'n. Some of us are wordy muh'......

You Should close this its just ppl saying the same theing a million times and not accepting the meer obvious fact that if its a bug, exploit, and or hack they would have fixed it..plz plz stop whinning every1 has been popped (talking genarly). its a fun thing to do takes skill and u shud always be ablr to get away (grass walk)

I dont know if I chimed in here or not, I am not willing to read 14 pages of shame, blame and regret to find out.

I like Ryoko. I like the ShadowHawks. I am a loyal and permissive friend.

Thus my opinion is obvious. If one star popping is deemed part of the game by JoyMax and Ryoko likes it. YAY! Im so happy for Ryoko! I want to invite him into my Vent and have a good time listening to him enjoying the game. I used to be quite anti-pop. Then JoyMax released a statement which you have all read. How could that NOT dig a hole, toss this issue in it and bury it forever?

I noticed people have been adding anti-pop things to their sigs. In support of Ryoko I made one too. Anyone who wants can lift and use it.

Mamba, too bad you're not on Babel. i would have scout poppers for you

At risk of speaking for other people as well as myself, those of us who are long-term players in this particular discussion are enjoying the back-and-forth arguments or we would have stopped long ago. And nobody is forcing you to read it or take part in it if you do not like it. We just have one thread here to have an ongoing discussion that, for the most part, has been dominated by intelligent and well-thought opinions from both sides. Let us continue to have it here, or it will inevitably be had somewhere else anyway.

if you have personal opinions not based on logic in this debate let me know.


i would think it is practical to deal with the 1* issue once and for all. i would hardly think it requires that much effort or energy to fix it compared to cracking down on botters or increasing server stability which is a never ending process. finally, i think a good game nets more profit then anti-botting measures and server stability.


edit: if you say they are ambivalent and then you are say they implicitly support 1* popping contradicts it


1 - moogie hasn't given up (and his posts are right on)
2 - you do that. i don't think it's worth it. instead, i will grind.


you're not actually denying it either.

i think this will be my last post here in this debate because we are up against deaf ears. with agruments like "i don't need to justify it", "i'm not going to read it", and "you are stupid" or "owned", you know you've done all that you can.

keep up the good posts. good luck.

You are not the only one first popper of iSRO

If the people that are talking here wanted you to stop, they would
have stoped talking after u said that you are not changin ur mind.
Its not the case. There are a lot of 1* poppers, maybe one will read
this ans stop?

Anyways. Even if i dont like 1* poppers, i still like u cap.

YOU JUST QUOTED ME SAYING THAT I DID
READING COMPREHENSION PLZ THX BYE


You think, you think, you think. That's lovely and we all would like to believe that good games = profitable games. Meanwhile, I'm down here in reality, so let me know when your flight is due to arrive. As for how much energy or effort it requires, I'm going to take a wild guess and say you haven't done much programming.


Is this supposed to be funny? Perhaps you need to look up the word "ambivalent". Or hey, you could always try telling me why you think there is a contradiction instead of just repeating your position over and over hoping one of these times I'll say, "Gee! I never thought of it that way before!" Clearly you think you're right and I'm wrong, and you think it's obvious why, but you think is not enough. I don't care if we are debating whether fire is hot, you still have to support your argument with something other than I think.


1. Her posts.
2. You mean you don't think it's worth you losing exp for their sake. Way to dodge the question.


Oh noes, the best argument ever! You haven't said you don't do, it so AHA! You DO! I haven't heard that one since high school! Thanks for playing, try again next time.

I am very disappointed, zphantom. I really thought you could have some fresh insights to add to this thread. Instead, you told me I didn't say what I said, accused me of saying what I didn't, and repeated yourself in lieu of responding to my argument. Come on, you can do better than that.

kinda off topic but what does that mean?

Well, I'm kinda young, but I think it means although, in a sense.

"In place of"

Instead of responding to Bake's argument, the guy just repeated the stuff he said earlier.

Once you pop, you can't stop.

LOL I should make a lil banner of that.... That's cute.

:3 Fun.

I kinda have given up trying to make people stop, but, I'll always attempt to make them see why it is wrong, why it gives themselves a bad name, etc. It's their choice if they don't care about the effects. But it does lower my opinion of them as gamers.

Just taking Ryoko as an example here, but I think he's a great guy. Couldn't be more friendly and nice. He's a great admin, fun to talk to, real nice guild leader too. But the fact that he actually goes and 1* pops after all the nice stuff greatly reduces my willingness to want to have anything to do with him in-game. I certainly can seperate person from gamer, but I can't understand how the two can be so conflicting in nature. And unfortunately I can't deal with having ingame friends who do bad things to other players, nor will I allow myself to be seen in any position of support for them, whether it be a guild tag, or standing right there with them in a thief suit. It's just not my cuppa. :]

dont know if somoene mentioned this but just stay off the road k??

thievies are lazy thats why they 1 pop, if you are off the main road u should be fine. They dont notice the two stars off the road. and if you get popped use it as movitation to lvl

uhh yes, that has been mentioned.