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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:38 pm |
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Euros don't pwn? An 80 2h can 1hit any int.(Including sun armor, but excluding mana shield), but at the same time they get nuked half their hp.
Euros aren't bound to the pot delay if you buy grains. It's 4sec for chinese and euro.
Getting 1hit after/during/w/e with invisible is because they're stupid and put on xbow extreme, daggerdesprate, or life turnover. Life turnover is just pure lulz because you can get over healed to death with 4k hp.
Cleric buffs aren't supposed to meant to allow them to tank. Bless spell is supposed to be used for times when they're down in hp, but the developer didn't realize that it'd be abused(Lv 10+9 bless. Bless over n over) Warrior skins are balanced, because they can do 1 person every 3minutes while bless does 8 every 3minutes. Fairness? Not at all.
Clerics are meant to heal and keep the party alive. That's all, but you see A LOT of clerics not doing that.
Those that you see get 1hitted are just not 80 perhaps? Shitty gear? Or yet just stupid to play a euro?
Btw int with sun armor can get daredeviled to death by a 2h. Mana shield.. can drop around 30~50% hp.(Double crit = kill with mana) Same time the nuker can kill the warrior. Find it lulz
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:40 pm |
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Yeah 2h/cleric pwn 
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:44 pm |
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Just to end the discussion/ You all sux 
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:48 pm |
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Toshiharu wrote: Euros don't pwn? An 80 2h can 1hit any int.(Including sun armor, but excluding mana shield), but at the same time they get nuked half their hp.
Euros aren't bound to the pot delay if you buy grains. It's 4sec for chinese and euro.
Getting 1hit after/during/w/e with invisible is because they're stupid and put on xbow extreme, daggerdesprate, or life turnover. Life turnover is just pure lulz because you can get over healed to death with 4k hp.
Cleric buffs aren't supposed to meant to allow them to tank. Bless spell is supposed to be used for times when they're down in hp, but the developer didn't realize that it'd be abused(Lv 10+9 bless. Bless over n over) Warrior skins are balanced, because they can do 1 person every 3minutes while bless does 8 every 3minutes. Fairness? Not at all.
Clerics are meant to heal and keep the party alive. That's all, but you see A LOT of clerics not doing that.
Those that you see get 1hitted are just not 80 perhaps? Shitty gear? Or yet just stupid to play a euro?
Btw int with sun armor can get daredeviled to death by a 2h. Mana shield.. can drop around 30~50% hp.(Double crit = kill with mana) Same time the nuker can kill the warrior. Find it lulz never said anything about warriors, Drunkens more than proved that to me, if anything warriors with cleric are way overpowered. the ones that get 1 hitted ( by glaive slap) lvl 80 wizards are usually those TR_ wizards or some from Genesis union, when it happens it always gets a laugh.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:53 pm |
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Toshiharu wrote: Euros don't pwn? An 80 2h can 1hit any int.(Including sun armor, but excluding mana shield), but at the same time they get nuked half their hp.
Euros aren't bound to the pot delay if you buy grains. It's 4sec for chinese and euro.
Getting 1hit after/during/w/e with invisible is because they're stupid and put on xbow extreme, daggerdesprate, or life turnover. Life turnover is just pure lulz because you can get over healed to death with 4k hp.
Cleric buffs aren't supposed to meant to allow them to tank. Bless spell is supposed to be used for times when they're down in hp, but the developer didn't realize that it'd be abused(Lv 10+9 bless. Bless over n over) Warrior skins are balanced, because they can do 1 person every 3minutes while bless does 8 every 3minutes. Fairness? Not at all.
Clerics are meant to heal and keep the party alive. That's all, but you see A LOT of clerics not doing that.
Those that you see get 1hitted are just not 80 perhaps? Shitty gear? Or yet just stupid to play a euro?
Btw int with sun armor can get daredeviled to death by a 2h. Mana shield.. can drop around 30~50% hp.(Double crit = kill with mana) Same time the nuker can kill the warrior. Find it lulz You really dont know what are you talking about. Last time I checked old 77 nuker I went pvp. I had full blue set +5 some parts +6 and even with that I got 1hit buy rogue 22k and guy was 74 lvl I dont know much about 2handed warriors but im sure they pwn like rogue.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:55 pm |
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X4rd4S wrote: Toshiharu wrote: Euros don't pwn? An 80 2h can 1hit any int.(Including sun armor, but excluding mana shield), but at the same time they get nuked half their hp.
Euros aren't bound to the pot delay if you buy grains. It's 4sec for chinese and euro.
Getting 1hit after/during/w/e with invisible is because they're stupid and put on xbow extreme, daggerdesprate, or life turnover. Life turnover is just pure lulz because you can get over healed to death with 4k hp.
Cleric buffs aren't supposed to meant to allow them to tank. Bless spell is supposed to be used for times when they're down in hp, but the developer didn't realize that it'd be abused(Lv 10+9 bless. Bless over n over) Warrior skins are balanced, because they can do 1 person every 3minutes while bless does 8 every 3minutes. Fairness? Not at all.
Clerics are meant to heal and keep the party alive. That's all, but you see A LOT of clerics not doing that.
Those that you see get 1hitted are just not 80 perhaps? Shitty gear? Or yet just stupid to play a euro?
Btw int with sun armor can get daredeviled to death by a 2h. Mana shield.. can drop around 30~50% hp.(Double crit = kill with mana) Same time the nuker can kill the warrior. Find it lulz You really dont know what are you talking about. Last time I checked old 77 nuker I went pvp. I had full blue set +5 some parts +6 and even with that I got 1hit buy rogue 22k and guy was 74 lvl I dont know much about 2handed warriors but im sure they pwn like rogue. You must not have had snow shield on then.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:58 pm |
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Blindfire wrote: X4rd4S wrote: Toshiharu wrote: Euros don't pwn? An 80 2h can 1hit any int.(Including sun armor, but excluding mana shield), but at the same time they get nuked half their hp.
Euros aren't bound to the pot delay if you buy grains. It's 4sec for chinese and euro.
Getting 1hit after/during/w/e with invisible is because they're stupid and put on xbow extreme, daggerdesprate, or life turnover. Life turnover is just pure lulz because you can get over healed to death with 4k hp.
Cleric buffs aren't supposed to meant to allow them to tank. Bless spell is supposed to be used for times when they're down in hp, but the developer didn't realize that it'd be abused(Lv 10+9 bless. Bless over n over) Warrior skins are balanced, because they can do 1 person every 3minutes while bless does 8 every 3minutes. Fairness? Not at all.
Clerics are meant to heal and keep the party alive. That's all, but you see A LOT of clerics not doing that.
Those that you see get 1hitted are just not 80 perhaps? Shitty gear? Or yet just stupid to play a euro?
Btw int with sun armor can get daredeviled to death by a 2h. Mana shield.. can drop around 30~50% hp.(Double crit = kill with mana) Same time the nuker can kill the warrior. Find it lulz You really dont know what are you talking about. Last time I checked old 77 nuker I went pvp. I had full blue set +5 some parts +6 and even with that I got 1hit buy rogue 22k and guy was 74 lvl I dont know much about 2handed warriors but im sure they pwn like rogue. You must not have had snow shield on then. Does it matter? 22k w/o snow shield ... snow shield absorbs 50% ... 50% of 22 = 11k = pure int dead ... 
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:07 pm |
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MrFudge wrote: I honestly can't think of a euro build that pwns besides 2h/cleric or maybe 1h/warlock.
Rogues and Wizards are just another free kill with the emergence of pk2 editing.
And I have never seen a wizard 1-nuke a full sun chinese. From what I've seen a lone wizard does about 18k dmg with their meteor nuke to a +5 garm set str char...
And I could tank Sylhanas +9 daggers with desperate on after I did snow shield and Impotent vital spot with a +0 set lol. And no, a rogue or wiz can't sneak up on me. And you can't call me a cheater cuz these forums haven't banned pk2 editing <3 if you admit to that i can call you a fcking cheater, who cares what these forums has banned thats cheating
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:08 pm |
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Nitro wrote: Blindfire wrote: You must not have had snow shield on then.
Does it matter? 22k w/o snow shield ... snow shield absorbs 50% ... 50% of 22 = 11k = pure int dead ...  Ok let me rephrase, you just not have been buffed.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:13 pm |
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Blindfire wrote: Nitro wrote: Blindfire wrote: You must not have had snow shield on then.
Does it matter? 22k w/o snow shield ... snow shield absorbs 50% ... 50% of 22 = 11k = pure int dead ...  Ok let me rephrase, you just not have been buffed. 
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:13 pm |
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foudre wrote: MrFudge wrote: I honestly can't think of a euro build that pwns besides 2h/cleric or maybe 1h/warlock.
Rogues and Wizards are just another free kill with the emergence of pk2 editing.
And I have never seen a wizard 1-nuke a full sun chinese. From what I've seen a lone wizard does about 18k dmg with their meteor nuke to a +5 garm set str char...
And I could tank Sylhanas +9 daggers with desperate on after I did snow shield and Impotent vital spot with a +0 set lol. And no, a rogue or wiz can't sneak up on me. And you can't call me a cheater cuz these forums haven't banned pk2 editing <3 if you admit to that i can call you a fcking cheater, who cares what these forums has banned thats cheating +1
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:16 pm |
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subzero wrote: im tired of everyone sayin euro ownz..they do not..chinese rule now and will rule at future caps. Why u ask?
cuz euros have pot delay they only good for doin 1 skill invisible and then dieing even with cleric buffs they cant tank as much as a full INT chinese with the same buffs and snow shield
yes, their dmg is great..but who rlly wants to run out...do 1 skill, then get dropped? its no fun..
EuRos sux chinese FTW wow.. hum, we don't have pot delay. You can spam pots, we got recovery division Pot delay my ass. Of course you can 1 hit euros. Chinese characters are meant to solo, european characters however are a constant party, that means you need each build to work properly (AKA own you all). Ever seen a PPPPPPPPvPPPPPPPP combat? Again, in case you didn't understand (which you prolly didn't): Europeans are party characters.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:41 pm |
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Euros can pwn, they just have to be tactical unlike chinese where u just keep hitting buttons till the opponent is dead.
In Videos I have seen euros are better on the newer servers
Old Servers: Euros are a joke for the most part cause they dont know how to use it due to lack of grinding and more time spent getting plvled.
New Servers: Euros are better because they grind theyre lvl, which makes them learn how to use the character and skills.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:06 pm |
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At 90 cap chinese will get new skills, but euros won't so i'd say 80 cap= euros 90 cap= chinese
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:11 pm |
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THIS IS GETTING BORING!!!!!
SILKROAD ONLINE IS A GAME IN WHICH INVOLVES 3 RACES, CHINESE, EURO AND ISLAM! ALL OF WHICH HAVE PROS AND CONS! CHINESE ARE PRETTY MUCH A MEDIUM, THEY HIT HARD THEY TANK WELL, EURO HAVE A HIGH END IN DAMAGE AND TEND TO LACK IN TANKING "In general, i know there are tank builds".
Anyway, caps done now lmao! What im saying is simple! People who say "a so n so with bufs owns a chinese easily" is full of shit, any build can have cleric bufs, and build can be debuffed etc.
I wanna hit the hardest on my server - Go wizard I wanna hit hard but have other options in play - Chinese nuker, i can go s/s if i wish and have wep skills.
I could go on lmao, no single race OWNS, they all have pros and cons! Go toe to toe with a wizard and its either 1 hit, or 1 hit either outcome!
With all said and done, a 2h warrior/cleric is the best build in sro! For this cap, no1 on this forum, or outside of joymax can say what build will own in the end! For now i will possibly lean into saying euros are overall better than chinese, just for 80 cap! However, fo r90 and beyond chinese do become more attractive in terms of what we get thats new. I say have this discussion when islam is released and we are past level 110, chinese nukers with stun ftw will open a whole new area of discussion!
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:19 pm |
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Not really, my rogue can one shot a full sun blader with a crit.
Although i die alot, i kill even more!
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:21 pm |
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Nitro wrote: Well... the game is way to unbalanced ... Euro is for party play... every euro has its big advantange and big disadvatange ... We can compare it with puzzle ... One, lets say Wizard is one piece of puzzle ... When the Warrior joins him , the puzzle is bigger and the they ability to survive is bigger , the dmg is bigger and they are stronger overall ... They fill eachothers disadvantages. While China characters are moderate in everything ... Lets see some paint skillz ...EuroWe can see that euro fills up each other ... The Wizard gives party a power and agility (lets say he is sub bard with swing march  ) While the Warrior gives the party defense and ability to survive. ChinaThey are moderate in everything ... no disadvantages nor advantanges ... They add up each other a little bit in every field ( Power , Defense , Ability to Survive and Agility) ... but not much. Overall Euro - Party Play China - Solo 1v1- Luck and Gear when euro solo theyre "weaker" but they do fine. Euros are puzzle pieces.. when you combine each puzzle in a party, .. puzzle complete thats right, what you get for having the full puzzle is beiing unstoppable.. Chinese are great Euros are great stop comparing, we should fight together as one race, well were two different races, but whatever we do it and its fun right? when new race is coming out, lol i already got a picture how it is gonna be; Chinese vs Euro vs Islam
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:24 pm |
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This topic has "flame" all over it.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:28 pm |
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InsertName wrote: lock plz this is becoming a flame tread euro and chinese abilities are based on personal preferences Couldnt agree more
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:28 pm |
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This is stupid. Not only can Euros do all that Chinese can but they are also the only way to make successful parties that are effective. There is nothing Euros can't do that Chinese can but there is things that Euros can do while Chinese cannot. I do support Chinese more but overall in a comparison between Euros and Chinese for the common reasons you would choose a character, Euros have the edge in the ability to be able to party without any Chinese. Whereas if you want to party successfully with Chinese you need Euros. Mix parties of the 2 are better but if it is either one or the other the Euro party will win, it won't even be a competition.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:35 pm |
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Blindfire wrote: Neither is better, you people don't realise than pvp is anyones game assuming they are the same level, pvp is basically first skill wins or first stun or kd wins. Anyone can beat anyone. Hardly >.>, equipment is what counts most, considering same lvl, then skills.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:36 pm |
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[quote="BakaFish"] You know this dude? Warrior/Cleric, lv80 +5 Set. So, one day, he PvPed Star, the best of Sparta. full sosun set, +5-6, with a sosun glaive. And guess who won? BAKAFISH DID. The only way to take down a warrior/cleric is to mob him, or SOSun.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:48 pm |
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Airbeat wrote: IMO - WARRIORS is the best in euro class, and pretty pwnage when it comes to fighting chinese too. They get insane crits, and have good defence..  Thats why im making a warrior  Thing that sux is the fact that they have really bad MAG defence so you ned to kil INTS within 45 secs of Mana Skin....and after that you are dead meat to INT based chars...unless you wear light armor, then you have a better chance but IMO light armor looks NASTY
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:50 pm |
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the_wicked wrote: Airbeat wrote: IMO - WARRIORS is the best in euro class, and pretty pwnage when it comes to fighting chinese too. They get insane crits, and have good defence..  Thats why im making a warrior  Thing that sux is the fact that they have really bad MAG defence so you ned to kil INTS within 45 secs of Mana Skin....and after that you are dead meat to INT based chars...unless you wear light armor, then you have a better chance but IMO light armor looks NASTY Wearing a bad armor just for the fact that it looks good is stupid...
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:50 pm |
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No... Sure you get hit a lot, but most warriors can 1/2 hit INTs, snowshield or not. Dare Devil is too strong for them.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:56 pm |
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Pot delays at higher level are the Euro's big advantage! They can use grains (+25%) with the 4 seceond delay. Chineese can't, their grain delay is 15 seconds.
A pure STR Warrior with Cleric sub class and a load of hp grains, and vigor set for the mp, is almost impossible to kill one on one. If he can knock anyone down twice in a row, forget it! He hits you for 150% phy damage on the ground.
If you nuke him for 8k, the grains restore almost 4k every 4 seconds. Good luck with that.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:57 pm |
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I'm going warrior/cleric with robes anyways... so INT's = double dead.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:12 pm |
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No one has mentioned warlock/clerics. Get someone who knows how to play with it and it will own anything anyone anywhere.
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Post subject: Re: EuRos dont pwn...they sux Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:14 pm |
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Eh no Tommys. You're wrong. A warlock/cleric will GET OWNED by a warrior. As seen by Swifter and Molecyle, Molecyle couldn't debuff/fend off Swifter for that long, giving himself time for a daredevil, you almost automatically dead.
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