Racial remarks....

Maxen · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 285 **Location:**

QuakeDisruptor wrote:

Sorry if I've offended you with my personal opinion. I certainly didn't intend to do so. However, I don't think my critique deserved such a hostile response. I certainly am not in a position of misunderstanding.

For starters, I am completely against racism or prejudice of any form, but my above philosophy was not inherently racist. A person does not choose the location of their birth or their initial social status or their sexuality. Because of this, nobody has the right to judge them based on these factors.

However, a person is not born a chav, a goth, a townie, a geek, etc. Thier personality may draw them to one particular lifestyle more than another, but ultimately you make a choice to lead the lifestyle you want based on your tastes, preferences and ideologies.

In the case of chavs and goths, I dislike them because they have conciously made such a choice. They are part of a scene or movement which represents a distinctive view on life, and their view from my perspective is arrogant and closed-minded to the point of ignorance.

I'm not criticising their taste in music or clothes, etc. (for example, I enjoy metal and am in fact quite partial to gothy-looking clothes) I'm criticising the way they treat others and their general disrespect.

Sure, I'm stereotyping, but I'm afraid that is based solely on experience. I can honestly say that I have only met a handful of people who fall into the 'chav' demographic that I could actually consider to be nice people. And yes, I have met several 'goth' teenagers who are respectful, polite members of society. On the whole though, I feel very sorry for the children and the elderly in my nearest city who walk in fear of the chavs and goths loitering around, vandalising and troublemaking.

So again, I apologise for any offence caused, particularly if you consider yourself a part of either lifestyle. However, I maintain my opinion based on the evidence I've seen and will continue to share it with anyone, regardless of whether it is considered controversial. In other words, no, I won't keep it to myself.

That’s a fair enough, but your first post was racist and stereotyping to certain members/cultures of society.

Although you’ve said you met a few exceptions that were genuinely nice and good hearted people regardless of who they hung around with, how they dressed or acted , I dare say I could argue the fact have you even attempted to get know the other 90% ?

I may have gone a bit “mental” in my previous reply, sorry about that.

But taking such a narrow minded view on today’s different cultures, be it goths, chavs etc is just as bad as making a comment as the book store clerk did.

It might not be acceptable to us how others act, dress or what they do. But to them it is and we’ve all had some form of this racism at some point in our lives, why perpetuate the cycle that’s all I’m saying.

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On the whole though, I feel very sorry for the children and the elderly in my nearest city who walk in fear of the chavs and goths loitering around, vandalising and troublemaking.

And no offence but you’ve done exactly the same thing, again a narrow minded view and untrue to a certain extent. I’m not trying to turn this thread into a flame fest so I’m going to leave it there.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

Master0Chief wrote:

And to chickenfeather

chickenfeather wrote:

Meh... whenever i speak chinese i refer to everyone by their race/country too... it's kinda built into the language to refer to "outsiders"(ie. non-chinese) by their respective descriptive term to distinguish between them.

You are a moron.

that's how we roll dipshit.

chickenfeather · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:41 pm

Master0Chief wrote:

Holy crap...

So many Indians playing SRO. Shit.

Shit because I am the only Indian who plays MMORPG, or any other games for that matter in my Indian friend circle.

Anyway on topic,

That is just bad refering to anyone by racial slurs.
Do not ever shop there find other shop no matter if you have to walk two miles to go there and buy from there. Before you do that go to that store and tell that Mama kiss why you choose not to shop there, fillout a complain mentioning exactly what happend. And never go back there.

And to chickenfeather

chickenfeather wrote:

Meh... whenever i speak chinese i refer to everyone by their race/country too... it's kinda built into the language to refer to "outsiders"(ie. non-chinese) by their respective descriptive term to distinguish between them.

You are a moron.

ROFL! I'm a moron just for calling someone a black/indian/etc. instead of just calling them 'that person'? What is wrong with that? Even you call yourself an Indian. Are you afraid of others calling you what you are?

Master0Chief · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 24 **Location:**

TOloseGT wrote:

Master0Chief wrote:

And to chickenfeather

chickenfeather wrote:

Meh... whenever i speak chinese i refer to everyone by their race/country too... it's kinda built into the language to refer to "outsiders"(ie. non-chinese) by their respective descriptive term to distinguish between them.

You are a moron.

that's how we roll dipshit.

Well, good for you if you roll in dipshit, asswipe.

chickenfeather wrote:

ROFL! I'm a moron just for calling someone a black/indian/etc. instead of just calling them 'that person'? What is wrong with that? Even you call yourself an Indian. Are you afraid of others calling you what you are?

Its not about calling An Indian, "Indian". Its about calling them "Black ghost" in this post. Now, you get what we are talking about here.

user · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 7:04 pm

clarencekuna wrote:

When I asked for the card, the guy said something to the girl in Chinese that is racist (said "this 'black ghost' plays the game too?" ,which was very rude, if you translate "black ghost" to Chinese.) I'm an Indian, and that remark was a known racist statement towards us

who gives a dam about them, they azns, being an asian myself, i found myself dislike quite alot asians

"black ghost" actually means black ppl

clarencekuna wrote:

It's sad to see this kind of attitude in real life, and in the game too.....

well, there is an asian whos looking for a cup of whoop ass

when chinese get calls "china man" they brings up the racism sht, not realizing they are use quite alot of racial slurs during day-to-day conversations themselves

chickenfeather · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:03 pm

Master0Chief wrote:

TOloseGT wrote:

Master0Chief wrote:

And to chickenfeather

chickenfeather wrote:

Meh... whenever i speak chinese i refer to everyone by their race/country too... it's kinda built into the language to refer to "outsiders"(ie. non-chinese) by their respective descriptive term to distinguish between them.

You are a moron.

that's how we roll dipshit.

Well, good for you if you roll in dipshit, asswipe.

chickenfeather wrote:

ROFL! I'm a moron just for calling someone a black/indian/etc. instead of just calling them 'that person'? What is wrong with that? Even you call yourself an Indian. Are you afraid of others calling you what you are?

Its not about calling An Indian, "Indian". Its about calling them "Black ghost" in this post. Now, you get what we are talking about here.

I never said I called an Indian a "Black ghost" and I got called a moron. Thx for reading what I originally posted and completely missing my point...

BTW... I don't care if someone calls me a China man, because I AM a china man(literally speaking). If they do mean ill will, then that is their problem. If they don't, good for them. As long as they don't kill me i'm fine with that.

Silver · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 924 **Location:**

i'm chinese, and i've heard my mum say that phrase too. i always thought it was racist, but i think it's a phrase that stuck, since they used the same phrase back in the days.

i don't think they meant anything offensive; it's just generalization.

TOloseGT · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 7129 **Location:**

Master0Chief wrote:

Well, good for you if you roll in dipshit, asswipe.

..... carebear, calling ppl by their race/country isn't racist. why don't you read?

Fat_Smurf · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:15 pm

clarencekuna wrote:

is it wrong for Indians to play games, or buy A-Cash cards for the game?

yes it is...

WTF why do you even have to ask it? though the i in isro was for international silkroad online...

for sure this guy is just an ass trying to act like a cool guy with the girl talking shit about other people, if I was you I would make him realise i've understand wha t he were saying just to make him lok dumb and ask him if he want to discusss about my Black Ghost origin outside the shop so I can show him my black ghost knuckle...

I'm a white person, living in north america,but oh **** I wish I was black or asian... so many racist people need to be kicked....

borat2 · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:16 pm

Silver wrote:

i'm chinese, and i've heard my mum say that phrase too. i always thought it was racist, but i think it's a phrase that stuck, since they used the same phrase back in the days.

i don't think they meant anything offensive; it's just generalization.

Racism is a daily thing you can`t avoid it no matter what and who you are, mostly done due to culture and/or not knowing that it might be wrong what you think/do.

Fat_Smurf · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:16 pm

Silver wrote:

i'm chinese, and i've heard my mum say that phrase too. i always thought it was racist, but i think it's a phrase that stuck, since they used the same phrase back in the days.

i don't think they meant anything offensive; it's just generalization.

this Black Ghost play the game too?

dont know but it sound like he's trying to be a smartass...

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Well as an Indian who plays this game i play with a huge group of people
from different places around the world. and as such there no one group
of people who out number the other.

Silver · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 924 **Location:**

Fat_Smurf wrote:

Silver wrote:

i'm chinese, and i've heard my mum say that phrase too. i always thought it was racist, but i think it's a phrase that stuck, since they used the same phrase back in the days.

i don't think they meant anything offensive; it's just generalization.

this Black Ghost play the game too?

dont know but it sound like he's trying to be a smartass...

no, it's just a name, generalizing "black" people!

which of the chinese languages was this in, specifically? because i speak teo chew, and that's what i've learned. translating it directly to english would mean black ghost, but it's just a phrase to call them ><

Grimjaw · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:30 pm

It's useless to discuss racial remarks here,because most people are more concerned about pwning the other person,then to get theire points across. :roll:

The moment discussions are no longer about pointing fingers and feeling ashamed about having made a n00b post...

Then come and call me,and i will bring cake candy and flowers to all!

Fat_Smurf · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:30 pm

Silver wrote:

Fat_Smurf wrote:

Silver wrote:

i'm chinese, and i've heard my mum say that phrase too. i always thought it was racist, but i think it's a phrase that stuck, since they used the same phrase back in the days.

i don't think they meant anything offensive; it's just generalization.

this Black Ghost play the game too?

dont know but it sound like he's trying to be a smartass...

no, it's just a name, generalizing "black" people!

which of the chinese languages was this in, specifically? because i speak teo chew, and that's what i've learned. translating it directly to english would mean black ghost, but it's just a phrase to call them ><

not saying the name sound wrong but the way he use it...

if I saw a black guy at my shop buying a Beer and I say ''This negro drink beer too?'' it sound like he shouldn't or black people are not allowed.... or just mean...

or even just this black guy, cause it say Black as a distinction, and seem like the reason why I'm so suprise that he buy the beer.

Silver · **Joined:** May 2006 **Posts:** 924 **Location:**

Grimjaw wrote:

It's useless to discuss racial remarks here,because most people are more concerned about pwning the other person,then to get theire points across. :roll:

The moment discussions are no longer about pointing fingers and feeling ashamed about having made a n00b post...

Then come and call me,and i will bring cake candy and flowers to all!

*calls you*

gimme some cake, candies, and flowers!

@ Smurf : i agree with you on the using part cause it's totally not necessary to use it. but that's how people are :\

CrazyAztec · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 419 **Location:**

clearance and me Live in the same country so i might just explain WTF malaysia is.

There is no place in the world like malaysia, where 3 races and 100more small races live togather in harmony

Behind the mask

there's racism.

13th may 1969 is fck up! Guess what 69

Racial fights. Country is in horror

so we realize that racial fights can torn down our country.Well, its not easy for 3 races to unified under one country coz racism is among us untill today.

i conclude that racism in our country is everywhere. Coz 100over races fked up in one strong govern'd country.

Btw im hybrid-chinese but WooT!!! I LOVE INDIAN GIRLS

-i have never practiced racism-

MamaSan · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 151

1st of all that's a Malaysian not Chinese...(different nationality)...
and If you have lived long enough in Malaysia you should know they refer alot of races as "ghosts", samething as they call caucasian "old ghost" . I do admit it's not respectful, but it's the way they speak to each other...

more like "devil" not "ghost"...

user · **Posted:** Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:07 pm

MamaSan wrote:

1st of all that's a Malaysian not Chinese...(different nationality)...
and If you have lived long enough in Malaysia you should know they refer alot of races as "ghosts", samething as they call caucasian "old ghost" . I do admit it's not respectful, but it's the way they speak to each other...

more like "devil" not "ghost"...

wtf u talking about? clarencekuna was talking to about this chinese guy in malaysia

AdamantWinds · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 43

satman83 wrote:

look mate dont worry to much about it...we indians are the global majority
i mean look at the worlds most spoken first languages

1=Hindi
2=Mandarin
3=Spanish
4=Russian
5=English

Wrong, wrong, wrong. Different sources vary slightly, but all agree that Mandarin tops the list hands-down. Don't try to advocate racial superiority, especially with misleading information.

In case you want to debunk me:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_spoken_native_languages

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0775272.html

http://anthro.palomar.edu/language/language_1.htm

http://geography.about.com/od/culturalgeography/a/10languages.htm

http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0775272.html

jarrod · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 708 **Location:**

chill guys....this topic invites many criticism especially those non malaysian....before you guys give any comment please learn more about our culture in malaysia....it's best discuss internally unless you 're staying here.....

Crazyaztec.....dont talk abt 13th may unless u're born on that year....you know shit abt it.... ask your bitch mom about it before posting that kind of shit at here....

Clarencekuna......
are you happy now? with all the support u got?
have you ever been to klang? at here chinese and indians get along well especially when it come to MMORPG.... i have indians friends who i hang out with specially for our SRO quality time...and what abt that?is tat rasicm?
how old r u?12?cmon havent u heard any slur from any chinese,indians and other races ? issit damn awkward to hear it? i have gone through this as well but i DONT make a BIG PUSSSY fuss about it. Do u really need to post it in SRF???i do get lotsa rude remark...but 1 thing for sure never keep it in your heart.

what makes you thing that indians are a rare species in MMORPG? jus because you got offended the other day, and end up making such conclusion? duh,...grow up man...
Maybe that chinese guy is either narrow minded(grew up in a bloody cage with no exposure to outside life) or never had an indian friends.....

DONT make it like " kerana nila setitik rosak susu sebelanga" OK??????Not everyone or not every chinese has the same opinion..and this goes out to everyone as well....

geeez is everyone now SENSITIVE CASE????LOL
1 more thing ... if you really happen to punch him, i bet your ass is in jail with your mom crying her tears out just for your childish act. why act like one? next time find another store if you cant stand it.
what's the big fuss about it?

DO not brand a race as SUCH , just cuz of 1 ..... idiot.

SOMEONE LOCK THIS THREAD PLS........F'KED THREAD.......LOCK IT
NO DISCUSSION ON RACISM!!!!..

Sol · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 321 **Location:**

Jarrod that post was abit over the top m8, What you've said doesn't help the situation.

If you've nothing good to say, don't say it all.

thanks -sol-

On another not, i think this topic has been exhausted. just let it go my friends

nightbloom · **Joined:** Jan 2006 **Posts:** 5492 **Location:**

Ive traveled a LOT.. And I gotta say, Mumbai was one of the nicest places I have ever been in all my travels. The ppl there were so nice. And not only was I a minority, I was only one of about 5 white ppl I saw the entire time I was in India. I was there for a month.

I miss real Chai tea, real dahl... and kulfee. (not sure if I spelled it right)

jarrod · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 708 **Location:**

so SOl where you from? malaysia whic part dude?Johor?selangor?sarawak?
if not stay out.....do your homework 1st before comment

Grimjaw · **Posted:** Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:19 am

Silver wrote:

Grimjaw wrote:

It's useless to discuss racial remarks here,because most people are more concerned about pwning the other person,then to get theire points across. :roll:

The moment discussions are no longer about pointing fingers and feeling ashamed about having made a n00b post...

Then come and call me,and i will bring cake candy and flowers to all!

*calls you*

gimme some cake, candies, and flowers!

@ Smurf : i agree with you on the using part cause it's totally not necessary to use it. but that's how people are :\

XD

*I brought you cake,candies,and flowers!*

clarencekuna · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 250 **Location:**

Dear jarrod....

wow, aren't you a mouthful.....

Maxen · **Joined:** Jul 2006 **Posts:** 285 **Location:**

clarencekuna wrote:

Dear jarrod....

wow, aren't you a mouthful.....

my thoughts exactly...

jarrod wrote:

so SOl where you from? malaysia whic part dude?Johor?selangor?sarawak?
if not stay out.....do your homework 1st before comment

and to say that to someone merely because they might not be from a certian country/region/culture...yes you've guessed it folks thats a form of racism..this thread might keep going for along time at this rate :roll:

Kitty · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 1818 **Location:** MA/PA

clarencekuna wrote:

Dear jarrod....

wow, aren't you a mouthful.....

Replace sarcasm with racism in your avy and slap it on his shirt

MrFudge · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 5731 **Location:** None

the only reason the worlds most spoken first language is indian is because each indian woman has an average of what, 6 children?

DAYUM.

spanish ftw.

satman83 · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 9541 **Location:** London

Well

am not supprised at all....hell in the http://www.silkroadonline.net forums
i was subjected to nearly every form of racisim you can imagen

from being called a "f**king indian" and "f**king paki" and even worse

thats just life i guess

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