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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 7:05 pm 
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my solution to the problem:
joymax triples item/sos/gold drop rates. price falls. any problems with this solution?

Nice, i'm with you on this one! Let's write em and see what they think...

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I've seen elixers for 350, but if I look hard enough, you can still find them for 200-220k

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lols, i sell my elixirs for 135k :wink:


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Whats the prices on Babel? :D

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idd, prices are ridiculous, +5 64, not even worth it :/

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Solution to problem? What problem there is no problem!

Actually to be honest, I think the price of weapon elixir at 250k a piece is very cheap, they should indeed be 400-500k a piece.

If you see people pay 2mil for a deg8 str stone that has the possibility to add str... I think 500k for w weapon elixir is about the right price. The weapon elixir does add more value to the weapon then the stone.

Joymax should do nothing at all, it is just the demand and supply rule. If people can and will pay 20 or 50 or 100 or 200 mil for a lvl52 sos, then that will be the price.

Just try to be creative in earning money, I can make min 10mil in 2h of work EASY. My 12 year old brother, wich is level 14 or 15, can make like 2 to 3 mil in 2 hour just by merchanting monster scroll, low level sos etc...

Remember you don't need to spend time stalling you can do that when your AFK too, only run trough hotan and other city once and a while to find good deals and stuff :)

BTW The event is indeed one of the main reasons prices went up, but remember, you are getting those event items too, and with the cristmas event, the droprate of the boxes became a lot lower. The raise in level cap is a reason why weapon elixir became more expensive I believe.


If you had some backing behind your logic that might have made some sense. You have no concept of deflation vs inflation, supply and demand do you? The reasoning behind the cost of a str stone vs elixir i.e. weapon, protect accessory .... Strength tabs are a rarity~definition they don't drop that dam often, therefore leads to the 2-3 million cost as a stone. Elixirs drops are very very common therefore prices should always be at a norm~meaning they've been the same dam price for a year +. If there is an sudden increase in prices when there has not been a sudden decrease in product we are to conclude that players are doing what is known as price gauging. They are selling at high prices praying for gold buyers to buy, others see these items being sold at theses prices so they match the prices instead of under cutting the prices to create competition

Gold buyers are the reason for these prices, if people do not have 900 million gold to buy at these high prices, prices fall due to no one is buying. Until that happens the prices will not drop plain and simple.




On an different subject: Who cares if you can make 10 million gold in 2 hours work "EASY"? Go into detail in how you can make that 10 mil in 2 hours "EASY" next time, give pointers since you are the well known SRO guru...

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If you had some backing behind your logic that might have made some sense. You have no concept of deflation vs inflation, supply and demand do you? The reasoning behind the cost of a str stone vs elixir i.e. weapon, protect accessory .... Strength tabs are a rarity~definition they don't drop that dam often, therefore leads to the 2-3 million cost as a stone. Elixirs drops are very very common therefore prices should always be at a norm~meaning they've been the same dam price for a year +. If there is an sudden increase in prices when there has not been a sudden decrease in product we are to conclude that players are doing what is known as price gauging. They are selling at high prices praying for gold buyers to buy, others see these items being sold at theses prices so they match the prices instead of under cutting the prices to create competition

Gold buyers are the reason for these prices, if people do not have 900 million gold to buy at these high prices, prices fall due to no one is buying. Until that happens the prices will not drop plain and simple.




On an different subject: Who cares if you can make 10 million gold in 2 hours work "EASY"? Go into detail in how you can make that 10 mil in 2 hours "EASY" next time, give pointers since you are the well known SRO guru...
I agree.

I usually could get by in game just by npcing the equip I pick up and still be able to buy decent gear. That is no longer effective because of gold buyers. Currently, I only have 4mil. This could have been a reasonable amount for a 5x a while ago but now you basically are unable to buy anything that is decent.

Its nearly impossible for the average player to be able to afford a sos of their level.

It seems gold buyers have a lesser effect on lower levels and their pricing. My 2x has 6mil just by stalling my drops and elixirs. The only time gold buyer's prices seems more apparent is the sos pricing.

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elixers<weapons<economy>weapons>elixers
elixers drive weapons to go insane which drives economy insane
economy goes insane no one buys weapons prices drop no one buys elixers prices drop

BOYCOTT BOYCOTT BOYCOTT
I TELL U ITS THE ONLY WAY
COME WITH ME IM NOT INSANE
WE WILL FIGHT THIS ON EVERY SERVER
WE WILL PULL THROUGH TO ABSOLUTE VICTORY

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but there's a point too, main reason why prices of elixirs went up is because of the cap raise, new drop items, high levels pimping them up to +7, failing a lot...very high demand then...

Prolly elixir prices are gonna drop soon...just like when all elixirs standard price was 250k, then became 180k all of a sudden...so it'll be back to normal soon, hopefully very soon...coz i have a som lvl 8 bow to pimp>.<
and i just wasted all mine and never even get it to +3... :banghead:

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^^ same here my som lvl 8 is still at +1 :banghead: :banghead: must be bad luck :(

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lol i just rembered the time (bout a week ago) i found a pandoras box for 70k, lol noob forgot to put another 0, almost feel bad for him :roll:
im on alps, boxes are going for 550k-800k and of course the idiots selling them for x mil each, and then the retardsn that actually buy them. lol

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