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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:23 am 
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Really bad idea. What exactly would be the point of doing so? It's not going to make them go away, and it'll just get super annoying for people trying to make a post about.. e.g. a new way to kill characters-who-kill-monsters-all-day-long-for-money-to-sell-to characters-who-train-without-being-controlled-by-real-people.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:12 am 
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I don't understand why the members of a legit forum have a problem with banning the discussion of bots and third party programs.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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lol ppl takes bots so serious! its like they cant sleep cuz they saw a bot in sro!
blocking the word will not stop srf getting filled of closet botters, and they wont stop botting cuz of it!
the word "bot" will become as the "yellow boxes"
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*Someone makes a post: "Hey guys i found a way to make bots murder... bla bla bla"
*1st reply: omg! he said bot!!! U ARE A person-who-bought-a-software-so-u-can-go-****-ur-gf-while-u-lvl-up!!!
*2nd reply: +1 count beore the lock...
does it changes anything?
imo... just wanna hide the sun with one finger...

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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Bad idea tbh.. what should be done is temp-banning the people who start the accusations which starts the flamewars.

like for example.. Sav.
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There was no need to post such a comment, and I really feel he needs a timeout for it. He started it, and it ended by Rek having to lock the topic.
There's more ofc.. that's just one example.

That would help a lot more I think.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:46 am 
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Blindfire wrote:
I don't understand why the members of a legit forum have a problem with banning the discussion of bots and third party programs.

.. He wants to censor the word bot. So if you want to say 'my legit guild went on a trade run and it was easy because everybody was afk botting', you wouldn't be allowed!
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Bad idea tbh.. what should be done is temp-banning the people who start the accusations which starts the flamewars.

like for example.. Sav.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=116822
There was no need to post such a comment, and I really feel he needs a timeout for it. He started it, and it ended by Rek having to lock the topic.
There's more ofc.. that's just one example.

That would help a lot more I think.

That was a dumb ban. Helios is less than 2 months old, do they really think that the guy was hand powerlvled by a char that was also hand lvled to 6x or whatever?

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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So don't word it so crudely. It can just as easily be written "my guild went on a trade run and it was easy because nobody jobs anymore".


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:08 am 
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This is about the word "bot" and about how it affects the forum. The only members affected are the ones that accuses other members of botting.

Just a hint yeah: if you're a closet botter, you should support banning this word from the forum.

EB section was supposed to stop bot accusations from happening in GD. The problem isn't that it didn't do its job, but much like Joymax, the regulators that should be weren't there or aren't enough. If the ultimate reason for the complaint (and suggestion) for not using the word, stems from members not wanting to read the constant flame wars (sparked from a simple accusation) then let there be more mods.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:21 am 
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What? GD without the word "Bot" ? I seriously cant believe that. GD is and has been a drama between legits and closet botters, but now it has decreased a LOT.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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just delete everything cept OTL kthxbai :D

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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What is the point?
Bot is just a word.
Even so people would just find ways around it.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:54 am 
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In Before Word Ban...

**** you closet botters! Okay, now that I can't say it any more.. BAN THE WORD!


It's a good idea, but I would rather people with obviously indirect bot submissions via 1 million sp or other forms of craziness get auto banned. But that's just my opinion. BACK TO WESNOTH!

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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What? GD without the word "Bot" ? I seriously cant believe that. GD is and has been a drama between legits and closet botters, but now it has decreased a LOT.

just a hint, the biggest closet botter supported the banning of all bots, they are the ones who accused more than anyone. all they had to do to stay in the closet was keep the attentio off of their botting and get everyone focused on everyone else.

the only people who wouldnt support this are people who WANT this forum to go futher down the tubes. just like the aforementioned biggest closet botters who went through great lengths to get people banned here, and guess what, they just so happened to have a forum themselves, with paying advertisements. sounds a touch fishy to me. much like you with your "everyones a bot if they have this opinion," mentality you got going on.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:27 pm 
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What? GD without the word "Bot" ? I seriously cant believe that. GD is and has been a drama between legits and closet botters, but now it has decreased a LOT.

just a hint, the biggest closet botter supported the banning of all bots, they are the ones who accused more than anyone. all they had to do to stay in the closet was keep the attentio off of their botting and get everyone focused on everyone else.

the only people who wouldnt support this are people who WANT this forum to go futher down the tubes. just like the aforementioned biggest closet botters who went through great lengths to get people banned here, and guess what, they just so happened to have a forum themselves, with paying advertisements. sounds a touch fishy to me. much like you with your "everyones a bot if they have this opinion," mentality you got going on.

Your argument does not justify why censorship should be used. Just because one closet botter acted in that way does not necessarily mean everyone who opposes censorship is a bot themselves. There is nothing wrong with maintaining a hostile environment for bots, as long as the accuser justifies their reasoning. The accused can then reply with their response and so on. It is how forums work.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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My "if you support this than you are this" comment was a simple counter to Traces "Just a hint yeah: if you're a closet botter, you should support banning this word from the forum." comment. it had nothing to do with you, so dont sweat it homie.

i support the censorship, because those who CLAIM to be legit are ruining the forum by turning every single Farking thread into a fuckfest of retardery. there is a problem on both ends of the spectrum, they fixed one end with EB, now the other needs fixed.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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Although I appreciate the effort, Every topic will become similar to:

Poster 1) Are the new *** ban lists up? Are JM banning ***ers?
Poster 2) ***s never get banned
Poster 3) OMG YOU GUYS ***

Obviously with more realism though >__>
And it only applies if you censor the word Bot. But without doing it, enforcing the rule would be nigh impossible.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 3:59 pm 
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Nitro wrote:
What is point of censoring bot?
SRF got screwed up with EB section, dont make another mistake you cannot change back.

This.

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Bad idea tbh.. what should be done is temp-banning the people who start the accusations which starts the flamewars.

like for example.. Sav.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=116822
There was no need to post such a comment, and I really feel he needs a timeout for it. He started it, and it ended by Rek having to lock the topic.
There's more ofc.. that's just one example.

That would help a lot more I think.

And this.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 4:10 pm 
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Ban talking about botters in GD
Normal bots or gold bots

Why?

It derails most thread.

This is a legit forum, but that's not the main reason, so it's ok.





What's the problem about this.. it's a good idea...

As someone has pointed out... all closet botters should agree with the idea lawl
Fucking closet botters.



See?
Next step> "Botter": Nonono, i'm no bot, bla bla bla bla, you smell, bla bla bla.

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Right now it's, you try to discuss something bout sro, you end up discussing stuff bout botters.

Will we follow society's steps or do fuck all?
Can't we try to at least make it look like silkroad can be a normal game?



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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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This idea is even worse than the Zero tolerance sticky in GD.
Let some of the idiots in GD handle their own stupid posts. But when that happens, You, as moderators, take the proper actions when topics get derailed or suffering the same shit (accusations, etc, and etc) everyday.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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Just don't censor bot or goldbot. Don't allow the different versions of bots, like *bot or *bot. I think that's the reason why you made that other sticky, ppl get to know different versions of bots when they visit srf...

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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Luckily for you, im one of the few who can detect sarcasm over the internet. Jackass.

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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a temp ban should be good, not much but it's good enough I'd say. A closet botter will always be one no doubt about it, and people who point fingers shouldn't BE any better.


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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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yet you can't figure out you yourself are advertising those bots. not checking stickies recently?

*what happenned to Mrs Booby :(*

Im just continuing the discussion, which is the whole point of a forum.
*not sure, only just noticed that*

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yet you can't figure out you yourself are advertising those bots. not checking stickies recently?

*what happenned to Mrs Booby :(*

Im just continuing the discussion, which is the whole point of a forum.
*not sure, only just noticed that*

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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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 Post subject: Re: What do you think of
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Filtering the word bot would be useless, u can easily bypass it

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Filtering the word bot would be useless, u can easily bypass it

thats why you dont filter it, make its use and discussion punishable. they havent filtered he names of bots , but they are punishable if found.

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i think its an idiotic idea. cant use the letter b, o, t anyone on srf?!? thatll stop anyone from botting in game

honestly its like censoring fuck. doesnt do anything


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