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Squirt · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 8186 **Location:**

NuclearSilo wrote:

Bot = computer
AI = computer
server = computer

Use computer to fight a computer = no one win. There's always a solution for one to fight back.
In bottom line, human >> computer

"If you want to defeat an army, you got to kill the chieftain/general first"

Your intelligence is awesome :shock:

I wish I was asian

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

LOL PWNED -.- no.

fuzzyfour20 · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 57 **Location:**

.AWAKE. wrote:

[Silkroad Online] Clean Campaign Event!

● Clean Campaign Event

[Web Event]
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● What is Clean Campaign?
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The world of Silkroad Online - a joyful place where players who love the game can gather and experience the fantastic game play!
If you love Silkroad Online, please join the Clean Campaign.

[How to participate!]
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Have you found a botter during the game?
Please tell your friends not to use bot programs!

Do you know what may happen if you use a bot program?
Since Aug 26th, Silkroad online implemented 3 strike-out system so please use the official client to avoid any possible damage.
- 1st offense: 7 day block
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cool story bro

Solemn · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:04 am

why would people stop botting when it takes 9 million years to reach 100 at a 0 gap.. then 9 million years to get max sp

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

Solemn wrote:

why would people stop botting when it takes 9 million years to reach 100 at a 0 gap.. then 9 million years to get max sp

Because you don't HAVE to reach cap to play this game.

Because you don't HAVE to get max SP to play this game.

Because some people (tiny portion of the community) aren't actually LAZY.

Because botting is against the rules.

Because botting is unfair.

Because not botting is the right thing to do.

Because actually PLAYING the game is the right thing to do.

majincooler · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 579 **Location:**

PR0METHEUS wrote:

Solemn wrote:

why would people stop botting when it takes 9 million years to reach 100 at a 0 gap.. then 9 million years to get max sp

Because you don't HAVE to reach cap to play this game.

Because you don't HAVE to get max SP to play this game.

Because some people (tiny portion of the community) aren't actually LAZY.

Because botting is against the rules.

Because botting is unfair.

Because not botting is the right thing to do.

Because actually PLAYING the game is the right thing to do.

You can play the game at any level, but you cannot enjoy the game at any level.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:10 am

what if I can?

ultraphoenix · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 102 **Location:** at home

i can too....pvping at lvl 5X was a great time

that was before i met overpowered guys with multiclient chars even in CTF..... (some wizard was lucky and got all his alts in CTF: 2 bard/cleric, 1 warlock/cleric 1 warrior/cleric and a cleric/X ....now try to own the wizard or his alts while he got perma-bless.... -.-')
Dont ask me how he could fight and buff at the same time x_X

aishsharma · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:42 pm

majincooler wrote:

PR0METHEUS wrote:

Solemn wrote:

why would people stop botting when it takes 9 million years to reach 100 at a 0 gap.. then 9 million years to get max sp

Because you don't HAVE to reach cap to play this game.

Because you don't HAVE to get max SP to play this game.

Because some people (tiny portion of the community) aren't actually LAZY.

Because botting is against the rules.

Because botting is unfair.

Because not botting is the right thing to do.

Because actually PLAYING the game is the right thing to do.

You can play the game at any level, but you cannot enjoy the game at any level.

i agree with both majin and prom

like in ctf there SHOULD be level limits to job and FW too
like only upto lvl 30 can a guild actually take over bandit fortress(if members are over 30 they must be forfieted from fort and FW), i know every1 wants the forts but if ppl had a lvl range to work in for small forts(and jobs) it would give low lvl players a taste of end game content without having to spend 1-3 year grinding to get thre

i know we only have 2 forts but its something to think about for when we get more...

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Solemn wrote:

why would people stop botting when it takes 9 million years to reach 100 at a 0 gap.. then 9 million years to get max sp

because your a noob thats why.
it took me 2 months to farm 200k sp and 2monthes to get to 76. i think thats high enough 2 enjoy the game..

you dont have 2 cap.. capping should be an achievement.
capping should be used as a HUGE weapon to guilds unions and job wars.
instead of having 99999999999 level 100's attacking you. it would be better if a load of level 50's were attacking you.

level 100 should be an achievement. atm. its not.
WOW I GOT TO LEVEL 100! like the rest of the botters. -.-

if you dont want to play the game. dont play it. dont bot and say u hav a life either because if you did. you wouldnt think about your bot on sro would you.

my friends are botters they dont shut up about sro. constantly telling me that botting is the best thing ever.

oh well. i have a girlfriend. and im getting laid. and im legit.

**** BOTS!

ultraphoenix · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 102 **Location:** at home

IF everyone stopped botting (yea i know, utopia...-.-)
there would be plenty of parties in each lvl range, which would mean way faster lvling than by bot. and ofc more server slots (noone would do 24/7 plvl at Ongs just to get a new char with 39156013961306 SP)
actually lvl 100 would be fun to reach, not as it is atm...

@penfold: fully agree

and what i dont understand too.....
You all say (99% of you guys) cap 60 / 70 was GREAT and FUN...well...there hadn't been so many botters and -if i remember it right- i could've added at least 5 people a day to friendlist, if there was enough space in it.

well i recently logged in again...only thing i saw: GOLDBOTS....
(the one CTF i joined was like it should be, no MC users)

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

penfold1992 wrote:

my friends are botters they dont shut up about sro. constantly telling me that botting is the best thing ever.

Quote:

Please tell your friends not to use bot programs!

jk xD >.< ,
ontopic, another stupid things from joymax, as this guy said

Quote:

Bot = computer
AI = computer
server = computer

Use computer to fight a computer = no one win.

joymax is doing nothing, i know how that bot "Ban" system works, those who are getting banned are just idiots, who doesnt know how to use the fkn bots.

bot= idiot, or someone who got a real excuse, and no i dont support them.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:43 pm

There are private servers out there. Easy to be capped if your target is being capped.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

NuclearSilo wrote:

There are private servers out there. Easy to be capped if your target is being capped.

but it sucks.

my target is being 81 ^^

, but i hate capped botters :@

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

majincooler wrote:

PR0METHEUS wrote:

Solemn wrote:

why would people stop botting when it takes 9 million years to reach 100 at a 0 gap.. then 9 million years to get max sp

Because you don't HAVE to reach cap to play this game.

Because you don't HAVE to get max SP to play this game.

Because some people (tiny portion of the community) aren't actually LAZY.

Because botting is against the rules.

Because botting is unfair.

Because not botting is the right thing to do.

Because actually PLAYING the game is the right thing to do.

You can play the game at any level, but you cannot enjoy the game at any level.

Maybe you can't enjoy the game. If you can't enjoy the game, don't play. If you want to play, you have to (should) deal with the boring parts of the game to get to the good and rewarding parts of it. I can enjoy SRO at low levels and high levels. I might just play the game differently at different level ranges (e.g., I'm likely not going to try and be a thief at lvl 20-30, but I might do a trade).

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

yes the 70cap was fun because my friend (level 4x then) was deemed as pretty tough... his build was irrelivent. it was his level...
no one had heard of many people above 40 that was a continuing player and trader/hunter/thief.

ofc there were a load of 40+'s but not many wanted to know you.

if i could have my way right now. EVERY ONE WHO USED A BOT would be character banned. totally.
then if your caught using a bot program again its a MAC address wide ban.

its not that banning doesnt work. its just not strict enough..
player bots get away with murder! any1 know any player bots 7day banned? joymax need more effort and less posting what theyre GOING to do on the site.

ps. im getting rid of 0.3mb sky shit broadband and moving on up to cable virgin in 2weeks time! thats a lag free interwebs!!!!

woooooop

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:27 pm

I believe botting destroy the value, the pride of being capped. You will not feel your char precious than leveling it by itself.

Before (when no one bot):
OMG, you are so awesome, you are capped, you are the strongest!
Oh no, I'm so sorry your account was hacked, I feel pity for you

After (when 90% are bots):
Meh, lvl 100? Nothing special, there are already 1000+ lvl around 90-100 out there.
Pff, hacked? Restart (bot) a new char, you'd be high fast again.

ultraphoenix · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 102 **Location:** at home

NuclearSilo wrote:

After (when 90% are bots):
Meh, lvl 100? Nothing special, there are already 1000+ lvl around 90-100 out there.
Pff, hacked? Restart (bot) a new char, you'd be high fast again.

its more like: WHAT???? you are NOT YET lvl 100 ? its already updated for more than 3 weeks and you haven't made it to be lvl 100 FF ?

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:06 pm

PR0METHEUS wrote:

play...
boring...
game...

i am not advocating anything, simple attempting to understand your logic. i never sat down to play something boring in my life. i dont say "hey guys lets play 'watch the paint dry!'"
doing something boring to acheive a goal is work, not play. i really dont think JM should make such work out of a GAME. again, not advocating anything except maybe JM needs to reevaluate their game, and reevaluate your perspective on things. grinding can be fun, especially in a party, but to accomplish anything decent you have to not only pay JM money, but then you have to WORK, not play. i recently DL'd Jade dynasty. guess what, it has a mock bot built right into the game. it just grinds and picks drops. nothing elaborate, it doesnt do quests or repot, but it takes the sting out of grinding, takes the edge off a bit, if you will.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:09 pm

Ofc it's fine to find a tool to help you to skip the boring part, but when it affects negatively the environment and the players around is not OK at all.

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:12 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:

Ofc it's fine to find a tool to help you to skip the boring part, but when it affects negatively the environment and the players around is not OK at all.

lol people in JD complain about people who use their esper with no regard to others, using an unlimited grind range and kill stealing everyone in sight.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:21 pm

so is not good

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:29 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:

so is not good

yes it is, its built into the game...

its just like the concept of sun weapons in sro, its totally unfair, but built into the game, so **** those it affects.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:48 pm

it's not because smt is a built-in of a game that means it's a good thing. It's just that it doesn't break the rule, but it's still a bad thing

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:05 pm

NuclearSilo wrote:

it's not because smt is a built-in of a game that means it's a good thing. It's just that it doesn't break the rule, but it's still a bad thing

no it isnt. you arent in the place to decide what is or isnt good for or in a game, the games producers and dev team are the ones to decide that. i guess its bad for someone who sells bots, or profits from 3rd party usage in mmo's but otherwise, no its not a bad thing. its a very very good thing. the game masters/ dev teams have efficiently set a perimeter of controled burn around the forrest of their game, to prevent potential fires from getting out of control.

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majincooler · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 579 **Location:**

PR0METHEUS wrote:

Maybe you can't enjoy the game. If you can't enjoy the game, don't play. If you want to play, you have to (should) deal with the boring parts of the game to get to the good and rewarding parts of it. I can enjoy SRO at low levels and high levels. I might just play the game differently at different level ranges (e.g., I'm likely not going to try and be a thief at lvl 20-30, but I might do a trade).

First, your statement applies to you, not for everyone who is playing.

Second, how did you know that I am not enjoying the game? Sorry, but I didn't state it anywhere in my post unless you can read my mind. If I don't enjoy a game, I simply wont play it, and I was stating something that is almost true, yet depends on which server your playing and other variables.

NuclearSilo · **Posted:** Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:59 pm

"almost true" means that it's still "false" :roll:

Quote:

the game masters/ dev teams have efficiently set a perimeter of controled burn around the forrest of their game, to prevent potential fires from getting out of control.

Everyone controls fire. If I want I just have to go secretly in a forest a set fire (by this refer to the abuse of some part of the game), no matter how good your protection is. It's just a matter if I afraid to go to jail or not. GM/dev teams are humans, and humans aren't perfect => not all is able to control everything.

PR0METHEUS · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 4093 **Location:** Earth

CeLL wrote:

PR0METHEUS wrote:

play...
boring...
game...

i am not advocating anything, simple attempting to understand your logic. i never sat down to play something boring in my life. i dont say "hey guys lets play 'watch the paint dry!'"
doing something boring to acheive a goal is work, not play. i really dont think JM should make such work out of a GAME. again, not advocating anything except maybe JM needs to reevaluate their game, and reevaluate your perspective on things. grinding can be fun, especially in a party, but to accomplish anything decent you have to not only pay JM money, but then you have to WORK, not play. i recently DL'd Jade dynasty. guess what, it has a mock bot built right into the game. it just grinds and picks drops. nothing elaborate, it doesnt do quests or repot, but it takes the sting out of grinding, takes the edge off a bit, if you will.

I guess it's a matter of personal preference. I don't find SRO boring at all, unless I'm playing it for too long. Then I get bored and go do something else. I personally don't care what level I am. It's nice to level up simply to have something different (leveling down can achieve the same thing I guess). Level up, get new weapon, new transport, new gear... However, it doesn't bother me in the slightest that I've been playing SRO off and on for almost 3 years and my blader on Venice is only lvl 54. I just log in to play the game the way it should be played. When I get tired of it for that session, I stop. I don't feel obligated to grind grind grind, level up, level up, level up. I don't see it as work. I like to just run out and kill mobs, do quests, etc. If I get some exp for it, great! If not, that's ok too.

I used to play DOOM/Quake type FPS games a lot as a kid. I didn't care so much about trying to find the biggest weapon and get the most frags. I cared more about exploring the game and learning new things about the environment... while hopefully killing at least some people in the process

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

jade dynasty's bot sucks. its lame. it takes the game out of it... the game is more like... "check once every 8 hours for 10minutes"
its boring. theres nothing to do, the quest system is "click the npc and AUTO walk there.."
theres nothing special

Silkroad should be a game about GRINDING or PARTYING TO LEVEL!

the only reason we bitch here is because no1 here has ever experienced party play. because even in a party its like ..
OH THAT FKING LVL 100 WIZZARD IS TRYIN TO PLVL IN OUR SPOT!
or...
WERE GNA HAV 2 MOVE GIUZ THERES A BOTTER HERE KSING US

sro should be played as it should... not as a program runs for it should.

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