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 Post subject: Powerlvling
PostPosted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:21 pm 
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I've been buying powerlvl lately and I noticed the prices were really tremendous:

Niya Sniper Taxi = 1mil - 1.5mil with a Wizard FF or 700k - 1mil with a Nuker = One hour

Taxi lvl 85-87 18mil for 5 hours/ 4mil for 1 hour, with a lvl Wizard FF lvl 100

This is in Aege, and I wanted to know whether the prices are similar in other servers.

Would you say this is worth it for someone lvl 65 9 gap? I have 250mil left.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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imo power leveling at that level is pointless unless the wizard can one shot the mob you are on. Being a bot is always useful too, though if you are an "extreme" legit you may have problems getting power leveled by a bot.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:
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imo power leveling at that level is pointless unless the wizard can one shot the mob you are on. Being a bot is always useful too, though if you are an "extreme" legit you may have problems getting power leveled by a bot.


probably the dumbest thing I've heard from you. how the **** does being a "normal" legit that gets plvl from a bot BE legit?

Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience.

I dont see a difference?

Next time, unless you're going to actually make legit suggestions, please refrain youself from posting.

Wow you are seriously retarded.

Just because you get power leveled by a bot does not make you any less legit. But, if you are legit you may not be happy getting power leveled by a bot.

"Next time, unless you're going to actually make legit suggestions, please refrain youself from posting."

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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4mill/hour is ridiculous. I don't know who in the right mind would pay that kind of money. 1mill-1.5mill/hour would be the normal price for a 85/87 taxi by 100 FF Wiz.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:
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Wow you are seriously retarded.

Just because you get power leveled by a bot does not make you any less legit. But, if you are legit you may not be happy getting power leveled by a bot.

"Next time, unless you're going to actually make legit suggestions, please refrain youself from posting."


"Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience."


Lempi's right.

If you found a bunch of goldbots who werent picking up their drops.. and you picked up their drops instead. Would you be legit? Yes.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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Toasty wrote:
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Wow you are seriously retarded.

Just because you get power leveled by a bot does not make you any less legit. But, if you are legit you may not be happy getting power leveled by a bot.

"Next time, unless you're going to actually make legit suggestions, please refrain youself from posting."


"Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience."


Lempi's right.

If you found a bunch of goldbots who werent picking up their drops.. and you picked up their drops instead. Would you be legit? Yes.

Lol Toasty doesnt makes any sense m8 ...

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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@lempi you are gonna loose this there is only one type of legit. You either are or are not. And powerleveling by bot is simply not legit. By your logic I could run my own bot to power level my character and my bot character would be bot and my other char would magically be legit since it only followed the bot in party. Logic fail. It is ultimatly the same thing.

And toasty that is apples and oranges. One you are picking up stuff you find but still doing it yourself the other well. I think you are intellectually strong enough to figure this out. You are either just trying to justify a friends or your own actions against your concience. So that part is pointless to debate with you.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:
"Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience."


Plvl from non-bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience.

The whole legit issue is seriously retarded, as least seen through the venus pseudo-legits heritage.

Walking around claiming you're legit is gay and moot.
Gay because who the **** cares, and how do you honestly believe it makes you in any way superior to the point of warranting wearing this as a badge of honor?
Moot because in old games legit-play was harder than cheat-play, but in sro it isn't the case.
The venus pseudo legits have proven this.
Playing legit (or at least apparently legit) gave them superior advantage.

It makes sense to claim you're legit and be nasty about rules as long as being legit is way harder than not being legit : you don't want to pvp with non-legits because they have godmode and whatnot.
But in sro, legit-play is the god mode : the euro parties, the constant hand grinding that makes you know your char and your build damn well, and the party play that makes you superior in group pvp.

The venus legit adventure ended in such a debacle that even the SRF staff should ponder on it.
The so-called legit champions were all Farking professional botters, hackers subscribed to famous hacking chanels (0x33 if i recall correctly) since 10 years and so on.
They USED the genuine legits' typical snobism to exploit them and profit from them.

This forum wants no advertising of third party programs and I respect that, but really is this a war to turn SRO into a legit game?

WTF? This is SRO, this is Joymax... ain't gonna happen !
If you want a legit server WTF are you playing or even talking about BotRoad?

I never botted and probably won't ever bot because I see no point in botting, but I'm the least intolerant of guys towards botters you could find.

I don't refrain from botting for the motive that I would find it to be "cheating". I don't look down on people who bot thinking they are "cheaters" or inferior in any way. In fact I look up to many botters who know the game damn better than I ever will.
Botting is just not my gameplay, not my fun. There's no point to make a fuss about it.

I'm one of the genuine legit players who got disgusted by the dishonesty and manipulation of the pseudo-legit empire-builders on venus.
Fortunately they're gone, and i'm surprised that some botters are admitting they wish these "legits" came back.
I guess they just didnt know them well.

I used to call them nazis out loud to make people realize what was going on, but come to think of it, they're americans... so the "commie" epithet would have been more efficient.

Be legit, be botter, just don't be a commie or a nazi, that is a manipulative tyrannical ****.

And please... to get on topic... (finally uh? sorry, my char got dc, got to wait lol)

Who the **** cares if you get plvled by a bot?
Who the **** cares if you deserve the "legit" label or not?
Is this a new cult?

It makes no sense as, as the venus peudo legits have proven, a legit community has in fact a huge advantage over a botters community.
It would make sense to be strict about what you call "legit" gameplay if botting gave you an unfair advantage.
In practice, it does not.

If you dont know that, get informed about what happened on venus.
The legits owned flatly the FW and the GW's and all the pvp because they played in euro parties and played well.
and they did play well BECAUSE they were legits : when you handgrind in party non stop, you know your char and your role.

what advantage did the botters get?
easy expe isn't one.
easy sp isn't one either.
it just gives you a char, but YOU don't know how to play it except if you're a damn good hardcore player.
Most botters SUCK majorly compared to the average legit, BECAUSE they bot.

botting = disadvantage.
period.

so dont be a prick about legitness please.
the pricks lost.
they were either closet botters, or idiots.
sorry.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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Truie wrote:
ofy1993 wrote:
"Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience."


Plvl from non-bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience.

DUDE wtf ???? and ur point is ?

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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XesoS wrote:
Truie wrote:
ofy1993 wrote:
"Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience."


Plvl from non-bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience.

DUDE wtf ???? and ur point is ?

His point is he likes bots and thinks we are grumpy asshole legits.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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I just asked if the prices were similar to other servers

And if it was worth it...I really don't want a bot/legit discussion plz


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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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I just asked if the prices were similar to other servers

And if it was worth it...I really don't want a bot/legit discussion plz

Only 2 Types of players on SRO anymore. Those that bot or get plvled by bots. So yeah mentioning it on a forum where the last of those that actually ever played the game visit is bound to get this reaction. Just have some patience and some closeted soul will be in shortly to tell you what his erm friend told him about plvl on other servers.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:
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imo power leveling at that level is pointless unless the wizard can one shot the mob you are on. Being a bot is always useful too, though if you are an "extreme" legit you may have problems getting power leveled by a bot.


probably the dumbest thing I've heard from you. how the **** does being a "normal" legit that gets plvl from a bot BE legit?

Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience.

I dont see a difference?

Next time, unless you're going to actually make legit suggestions, please refrain youself from posting.

The difference is that you put a period on the second one.


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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ping_lo wrote:
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I just asked if the prices were similar to other servers

And if it was worth it...I really don't want a bot/legit discussion plz

Only 2 Types of players on SRO anymore. Those that bot or get plvled by bots. So yeah mentioning it on a forum where the last of those that actually ever played the game visit is bound to get this reaction. Just have some patience and some closeted soul will be in shortly to tell you what his erm friend told him about plvl on other servers.


explain me how i am less "legit" if i get plvled by a botter than by a non botter?

or worse (and this was a rule in the venus legit community), if i get plvled by a guy who isnt botting but who HAS botted?

but do you know the ultimate legit rule?
it's also the core of what "legit" means to these assholes : you cannot be friends with botters.

Well, they lost. Friendship (that is, love) lost over power-hunger.

heart over reptilian compulsion.

no dudes, i dont bot. I've been in botters guilds for about a whole year of play, and it didnt turn me into a botter.
on the other hand, the guys who used to champion the legit cause on venus (the champion legit server) were botters, hackers, and even bot-script-writers.

so, whose side are you on again?

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ping_lo wrote:
His point is he likes bots and thinks we are grumpy asshole legits.


i like botters, i like non botters.

depends on the type of people they are, not on the tools they use to have fun.

i used to be annoyed at botters in sro, until i joined the legit community
in that community i realized that the botters and even the goldbots were NOTHING in term of annoyance compared to the legits.

...sorry, compared to the "pseudo legits and real school-tyrants on a rampage".

there are plenty of great legit people
but the legit empire happened under the leadership of Farking highschool dictators.


P.S. As for bots, i neither like nor dislike them, i simply see no point in using them.

It's not my fun, but i dont judge people who find bots fun or a botted char funnier than a non botted one.
To me, even plvl is dangerous and i keep it to a minimum otherwize i lose my chars. Happened to a bunch of chars of mine.

Of course i wish there were no bots in sro, but that's human nature : The tools are available, the company doesn't prevent their use so the players use them. That's just nature, dude.

You dont like human nature ?

Ask yourself that one.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:

tl;dr.


i know

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you suck typical.botsupporting.thoughts. tcm


typical intolerant pseudo-legit talk.
the venus pseudo legits but real closet botters immunized us against this type of attitude.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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I charge 3mill for 6 hours at black eagles, you fill a party with 7 others thats 21mill for 6 hours of grinding,I can profit some decent amount of gold at the end of the week with this method depending on which days I can play for 6 hours

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:
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Wow you are seriously retarded.

Just because you get power leveled by a bot does not make you any less legit. But, if you are legit you may not be happy getting power leveled by a bot.

"Next time, unless you're going to actually make legit suggestions, please refrain youself from posting."


"Bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience
Plvl from bots = Pay to not do anything and get experience."


Utter bullshit = your post
your post = utter bullshit

Correct:
bots = not do anything and get experience and drops
plvl = paying with gold you gained with your hard work (not talking about gold buying) to get experience

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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Plv is just waste of time, its only good if you got alot of gold and dont get pist off at scamers after that is not worth doing it..

Btw, plv is not legit mostly if you get plv by bot, thats why i dont bother with plv and if i did i would be really fked up with my union mates :D

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1. You have little to no proof of anything they did.(it's all he said she said stuff though show it if you got it)
2. You can still be anti bot and not agree with those people.
3. You can still be anti bot and talk to bots. (it is just rather hard to though with all the moral contortions they go through)

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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1. You have little to no proof of anything they did.(it's all he said she said stuff though show it if you got it)
2. You can still be anti bot and not agree with those people.
3. You can still be anti bot and talk to bots. (it is just rather hard to though with all the moral contortions they go through)


So i got stop talking to my freinds, who by the way bot, that i have played before they botted, who if i need help from them they were there for me so cuz they bot lol i hate bots i dont hate them, i cant be mad at them for botting who isn't botting, all legits which who ever is left will and always have talked to bots no matter what!
You can be a anti bot, you got talk to a botter so you can tell him to quit botting thats a way and to me the only way stop bots cuz jm ain't going banned them so....

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So i got stop talking to my freinds, who by the way bot, that i have played before they botted, who if i need help from them they were there for me so cuz they bot lol i hate bots i dont hate them, i cant be mad at them for botting who isn't botting, all legits which who ever is left will and always have talked to bots no matter what!


No one here ever said that. So stop fighting imaginary wars. And yes you can be mad at them for botting and still be friends. But I suppose you people just don't get that.

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You can be a anti bot, you got talk to a botter so you can tell him to quit botting thats a way and to me the only way stop bots cuz jm ain't going banned them so....

Yup I know and why I and almost everyone else has left SRO for other games/versions. We do however chuckle at those of you still trying to deal with all that BS though.

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 Post subject: Re: Powerlvling
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ofy1993 wrote:
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Utter bullshit = your post
your post = utter bullshit

Correct:
bots = not do anything and get experience and drops
plvl = paying with gold you gained with your hard work (not talking about gold buying) to get experience


if you we look at it through your dumb mind.

bots = paying with money you gained with your hard work (not talking about stealing) to get experience.

lol you're basicly saying you can buy xp with gold.


Not talking about gold buying so...

You get gold with hard IN GAME work (not talking about outside game), you use it to either get gear or pay someone to lvl you... what's wrong with that?

Looks like the dumb here is you.

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imo power leveling at that level is pointless unless the wizard can one shot the mob you are on. Being a bot is always useful too, though if you are an "extreme" legit you may have problems getting power leveled by a bot.

Only reason i read your post is because I love your Avatar-_-

Where is it from?

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Would you say this is worth it for someone lvl 65 9 gap? I have 250mil left.

Getting pwrlvl at that lvl is not any faster than grinding yourself.
Ofc if you can get solid pwrlvling, then its faster. But we know with the amount of scammers there, dc problems and such, you might as well get to 72, get a decedn 72+7 weapon and do the farming yourself at a decent spot.
Nachals if you're Int, Yacha if you're str. Or Niya Guards/Soldiers area. Those areas generally has less Bots.

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yea, u pay the gold and u dont do anything else and u get exp, but the thing is, youre not using any 3rd party programs, which means ur still legit
now gtfo u utter morons, QQ more about plvl not being legit for you


probably like 1.5-2m for a 100ff wizzard on 85/87 on troy, im sure ill never buy it lol
sometimes there 5m/4 hours or something, high risk of scam tho

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Legit is defined by the community. Hence it is a varying definition.

For me, Legit = follow all rules set by JM.

JM never said you can't be lvled by a friend. Higher level people help lower lvls gain exp all the time. In iSRO however, if you want to be powerlvled, expect a bot powerlvl. Whether or not that's still "legit" is simply up to you. Some ppl think you have the power to control it, others don't. In reality though, there's only 4 choices in iSRO to lvl up:
1) Grind yourself (GL getting past 80)
2) Make a euro and try to find a grinding party each time you're on (GL finding a new server)
3) Find a powerlvl, which is 90% ran by botters (Mostly old players re-making new characters)
4) Bot (99.99% of server)

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Well, SRF
1) knew that 99% of its members who are still playing bots,
2) knew JM doesn't care,
3) knew 32543254 of the current accounts were remade accs,

Well, it amaze me sometimes that how Bot literate few of SRF mods are.

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