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 Post subject: Why cant people accept the fact
PostPosted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 9:00 pm 
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that a Euro can be killed by a chinese characters?

Euro are way overpowered in damage. For example: a Warrior/cleric. They got heal, they bless, they got skins, and they got vigors, they knockdown, knockback. But when a chinese uses vigor, they called that's not real pvp. What the hell.

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Idk who is saying this, but i don't think the magority believes in that statement. Ofcourse, if we talk about 1v1, if we talk about a euro pt, then sure it's pretty hard to kill them :)
Since i have a wizard, i am completely aware of the fact that a chinese can kill an euro.
As for the vigors - whoever says it's not fair for chinese to use them is just a kid trying to find an excuse why he lost.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant people accept the fact
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Bg_DrEaM wrote:
Idk who is saying this, but i don't think the magority believes in that statement. Ofcourse, if we talk about 1v1, if we talk about a euro pt, then sure it's pretty hard to kill them :)
Since i have a wizard, i am completely aware of the fact that a chinese can kill an euro.
As for the vigors - whoever says it's not fair for chinese to use them is just a kid trying to find an excuse why he lost.



Read the comments in here. lol

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant people accept the fact
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I don't care what my opponent uses, as long as nobody buffs him or debuffs me. Under those conditions I can PvP normally without bless/skins. If they do buff them self then I just put on my bless/skins.

A PvP is a battle between 2 characters, it doesn't matter what they use, as long nobody interferes. So I see nothing wrong in a Chinese using vigors.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant people accept the fact
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Yea i understand what you mean, but as we all know, people are different. If i remember correctly we had vigors even before euro came out 9 i might be wrong, but i think i'm not). Everyone has it's own oppinion. And as i said, the people who use vigors as an excuse are the ones who can't accept they lost. and the comments just prove this for me. It's like saying it's unfair for a nuker to use a snow shield (which i have heard too many times). So just ignore those people. You know who you are, you know how good you are and how you play, why you care about their oppinion :)

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I completly agree, however I don't think anyone should use Vigors in PvP, Euro or Chinese. If you tell most Euros not to use Vigors, they'll use their 15 seconds pot delay as an excuse. On my server, most capped Euros have their Vigor Grains set at 75%.

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just ignore the dude, he is retired :( (lacks oxigen in his brain)

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Well my oppinion is not so PRO, cause i never make pvp. As i said, i'm a wizard and i don't think my char is ment to be a pvp one, and i didn't made it for this, i just don't like pvp :)
But as in everything else, people just can't accept they lost (PvP, Trade, CTF, Killing unique, FW) so they need an excuse. That's all.

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I dunno but i think you must be skilled, and i dare you for a pvp match, i take my blader vs your euro, without any outside buffs, im pretty sure i will rape you.

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i used to think unfair for euros to vigor. and nukers use snowshield. but i found more annoying ways to get around them. like use firewall everytime the nuker breaks it for 2 minutes. and what not.

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I only use vigors if I have to...Which is not really often unless a sun wep joins or something ;) xD

And yeah...You see some people getting hit for like 5k (or 10k) as a pure str lvl 100 and they use a hp and vigor pot >.> Like wtf lol...Farking pussies, but still, they are allowed to use it.

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iztupido wrote:
just ignore the dude, he is retired :( (lacks oxigen in his brain)


retired = reformado :p queres dizer "retarded"

Well, if euros can use vigor don't see what's wrong with chinese using them

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JoyFax wrote:
iztupido wrote:
just ignore the dude, he is retired :( (lacks oxigen in his brain)


retired = reformado :p queres dizer "retarded"

Well, if euros can use vigor don't see what's wrong with chinese using them


no joyfax, i really want to say retired (its due to some jokes at OTL/OSV) :)

(eu sei que retired eh reformado :))

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant people accept the fact
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I completly agree, however I don't think anyone should use Vigors in PvP, Euro or Chinese. If you tell most Euros not to use Vigors, they'll use their 15 seconds pot delay as an excuse. On my server, most capped Euros have their Vigor Grains set at 75%.


w/o vigors a Euro has a better advantage vs a Chinese str. and with vigors a chinese gains advantage, euros have the advantage of switching to shied+rod, when healing cycle ends, recast it and use self heal to regain near max or max hp and start bashing again. while the chinese will never regain maximum heath, because the pot size remain the same (x-large)
and btw euros pot delay is [b]3-4 sec (hp grains)[/b]lol, let a euro use X-large pots (15 sec. delay)and they will loose 1/1 most of the times.

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant people accept the fact
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I completly agree, however I don't think anyone should use Vigors in PvP, Euro or Chinese. If you tell most Euros not to use Vigors, they'll use their 15 seconds pot delay as an excuse. On my server, most capped Euros have their Vigor Grains set at 75%.


w/o vigors a Euro has a better advantage vs a Chinese str. and with vigors a chinese gains advantage, euros have the advantage of switching to shied+rod, when healing cycle ends, recast it and use self heal to regain near max or max hp and start bashing again. while the chinese will never regain maximum heath, because the pot size remain the same (x-large)
and btw euros pot delay is [b]3-4 sec (hp grains)[/b]lol, let a euro use X-large pots (15 sec. delay)and they will loose 1/1 most of the times.


By the time he does all that stuff the other guy is near max hp again too probably >.<

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 Post subject: Re: Why cant people accept the fact
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Well my oppinion is not so PRO, cause i never make pvp. As i said, i'm a wizard and i don't think my char is ment to be a pvp one, and i didn't made it for this, i just don't like pvp :)
But as in everything else, people just can't accept they lost (PvP, Trade, CTF, Killing unique, FW) so they need an excuse. That's all.


Wizards can make good pvp characters. Don't listen to the sterotypical bullshit that they cannot be -- those people who say that have only seen the way noobs PvP: and that is spamming Life Turnover + Invis and trying to kill everyone before they inevitably get one shotted by someone else. All it takes is good playing and a decent set (I recommend a +4/+5 light armor set, fuck robes). If you can play a Warrior/Cleric and switch weapons easily, you can do the same with a Wizard/Cleric.

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O.O all chars are good for pvp.They just do really bad or realy good vs some builds.Vigors..its all fair

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euro - hp grain 75% , vigor grain 50% , beat me :D


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Bg_DrEaM wrote:
Well my oppinion is not so PRO, cause i never make pvp. As i said, i'm a wizard and i don't think my char is ment to be a pvp one, and i didn't made it for this, i just don't like pvp :)
But as in everything else, people just can't accept they lost (PvP, Trade, CTF, Killing unique, FW) so they need an excuse. That's all.


Wizards can make good pvp characters. Don't listen to the sterotypical bullshit that they cannot be -- those people who say that have only seen the way noobs PvP: and that is spamming Life Turnover + Invis and trying to kill everyone before they inevitably get one shotted by someone else. All it takes is good playing and a decent set (I recommend a +4/+5 light armor set, fuck robes). If you can play a Warrior/Cleric and switch weapons easily, you can do the same with a Wizard/Cleric.

I hate to look like I'm self bragging here... but look.


Well, with wizard cleric is not that hard. But i am bard :) Anyways, i don't say wizards can't do pvp, but i don't like it so i'm not doing it :) But you are right, a skilled wizard can win a pvp.

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ofy1993 wrote:
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just ignore the dude, he is retired :( (lacks oxigen in his brain)


retired = reformado :p queres dizer "retarded"



don't make fun of retired people. it's not their fault they were born without oxygen :(

OnT: Saying you use vigors is like saying Warriors using skins, bless or any sub cleric int using offering to win a pvp. People will ALWAYS complain since they can't own/use/spam/do whatever they're oppenent does.

If you agree to pvp a guy, when he wins, you can't complain he has a sun weapon/set. That's just how SRO is.


ofy mens i wasnt making fun of retired people men, i just called the dude that posted that retired mkay?

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I don't care what my opponent uses, as long as nobody buffs him or debuffs me. Under those conditions I can PvP normally without bless/skins. If they do buff them self then I just put on my bless/skins.

A PvP is a battle between 2 characters, it doesn't matter what they use, as long nobody interferes. So I see nothing wrong in a Chinese using vigors.

Bingo. Couldnt of said it better.

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I don't care what my opponent uses, as long as nobody buffs him or debuffs me. Under those conditions I can PvP normally without bless/skins. If they do buff them self then I just put on my bless/skins.

A PvP is a battle between 2 characters, it doesn't matter what they use, as long nobody interferes. So I see nothing wrong in a Chinese using vigors.

Bingo. Couldnt of said it better.


Yeah but ppl who use zerk, malicious devil spirit skill, or silk scrolls in pvp are pretty lame also.

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if its fare to use vigors as a chino is fare to use grains def buffs as eu thats what its about


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i think it would be interesting having a poll of what people think is fair in 1 v 1 pvp


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anything fair as long as it 1v1

so someone buffing u ..not fair..not 1v1


anything 1v1 fair except those damned balloons lol

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Euros and Chinese are made same, we are all people ok quit the racist again euros or chinese ok!?!

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anything fair as long as it 1v1

so someone buffing u ..not fair..not 1v1


anything 1v1 fair except those damned balloons lol


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anything fair as long as it 1v1

so someone buffing u ..not fair..not 1v1


anything 1v1 fair except those damned balloons lol


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if the warrior has skins he should use em. if he has bless let him use it


bless and skins make for a horridly boring 1v1 pvp

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bless and skins make for a horridly boring 1v1 pvp

Exactly. I just can't use them. Where is the fun if nobody rapes you? >_<

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