JoymaxFanClub - Do you agree?

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

http://www.youtube.com/joymaxfanclub

I heard about these guys but never actually payed attention to them.
Today i was pvping and started to read their globals sent from a hacked account.

Well, nothing new.
But they say they hack accounts for 1 reason: botting. Just to destroy botting chars.

Do you guys agree with it? Is to hack bots a way to fight em? Or just act like the ones we hate?

I dont hav an opinion, yet. at same time i think "pwned" i remember hacking is so illegal as botting.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

I love the idea of hacking bots.
Only problem is what's to stop them from going on an hacking legits as well?

Hennessey · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 459 **Location:**

botting effects the ingame econemy a bit, it makes the game seem more dead, it lets ppl cap faster than others.

it doesnt hurt others tho

hacking accounts whether they were botted or not is wrong. people become atached to their characters and also spend alot of irl money on them in most cases. to take away something they own is alot worse than them botting their own char

twistedorgy · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 344 **Location:**

yeah I agree...**** bots they deserve it, sell everything they have dlvl them give away there accounts totally ruin them..

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

2 wrongs do make a right in this situation and if you think any otherwise, your contributing to the death of w/e is left of srf

rawrrawrblacksheep · **Joined:** Mar 2009 **Posts:** 14 **Location:**

There's no such thing as being hacked, so...

They'd have to get keylogged or share the info.
Either way, it's wrong. Basically going down to their level kind of thing. You become no better than them yourselves.

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

Definitely agree.

Anyway, i've always been for destroying botting chars, i've made my share of Xian botters max murderer and stripped, though not by hacking(too bad lol), but it wasn't enough, they'd just bot it all back.

Shadowfox542 · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 914 **Location:**

Nah, they don't care if your a botter or not. Selenne saw the globals I did, as we are both on Olympus.

Our guild mate was hacked, he was Lv82, and he was a botter.

But, after that they banned like 3 legits from the guild that were 76+.

Also, a friend that I am relatively certain did not bot, was hacked.

Hacking bots=good
making the game worse for legits=bad

Blurred · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 2894 **Location:**

You guys take this game way to seriously.

firefox6 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 1485 **Location:**

lol i am betting they just scam peoples usernames and pass or they used that glitch a wile back.. i remember they said they were going to do something to take down jm and it never happened.. they are a bunch of fakes.

ovidiu333 · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 45 **Location:**

well, this is a special case. some will say its ok to hack bots , others will say it is not right. now it depends from person to person. actualy i am against this "scammer" or "hacker"
cause everyone makes some errors in life (i am not saying i did)

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

rawrrawrblacksheep wrote:

There's no such thing as being hacked, so...

They'd have to get keylogged or share the info.
Either way, it's wrong. Basically going down to their level kind of thing. You become no better than them yourselves.

Ahem. Bullshit. You don't know what you're talking about, and therefore, you should not talk about the concept of hacking Joymax accounts. Don't say hacking accounts is impossible, or even improbable.

NO_SILK_4_ME · **Joined:** Jan 2008 **Posts:** 1016 **Location:**

Tasdik wrote:

I love the idea of hacking bots.
Only problem is what's to stop them from going on an hacking legits as well?

Morals.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

Hennessey wrote:

botting effects the ingame econemy a bit, it makes the game seem more dead, it lets ppl cap faster than others.

it doesnt hurt others tho

hacking accounts whether they were botted or not is wrong. people become atached to their characters and also spend alot of irl money on them in most cases. to take away something they own is alot worse than them botting their own char

The **** you smoking? Botting is the ONLY reason the economy is farked up. It hurts everyone in the game and it's the biggest reason silkroad fails. Botting = gold bots = buy gold = bad economy = less sever space = less legits. It's not hard.

Why do they deserve their characters? A thief can spend years coming up with the perfect plan to steal a diamond, spend thousands doing so and then you think he gets it keep it? No. Cheaters deserve what they get.

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

Joymax has been hacked before, deebee, lilantes, arasyii, they made GM account went on made all kinds of suns and stuff, gave themselves like max str/int having 700k+ hp/mp, spawned Roc back in 2005 in Isro, some cave mobs, we had no idea what that shit was lol, like 100+ Devil Eyes out the gate of hotan, and Lord Yarkans and super mangyangs that would own you, and copied the database back then, what makes you think it couldn't happen now lol, it's Joymax.

The thing is most ppl that are able to do it, aren't going to, especially to hack accounts.

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

DarkJackal wrote:

The thing is most ppl that are able to do it, aren't going to, especially to hack accounts.

QFT.

jarrod · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 708 **Location:**

Blurred wrote:

You guys take this game way to seriously.

PocketSunshine · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 386 **Location:** Aion

Two wrongs don't make a right.

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

Azilius wrote:

Hennessey wrote:

botting effects the ingame econemy a bit, it makes the game seem more dead, it lets ppl cap faster than others.

it doesnt hurt others tho

hacking accounts whether they were botted or not is wrong. people become atached to their characters and also spend alot of irl money on them in most cases. to take away something they own is alot worse than them botting their own char

The **** you smoking? Botting is the ONLY reason the economy is farked up. It hurts everyone in the game and it's the biggest reason silkroad fails. Botting = gold bots = buy gold = bad economy = less sever space = less legits. It's not hard.

Why do they deserve their characters? A thief can spend years coming up with the perfect plan to steal a diamond, spend thousands doing so and then you think he gets it keep it? No. Cheaters deserve what they get.

Who are you to say what happens to other's property though? If they used IRL money and paid for this char that was some hard earned money out of some of their pockets and they used it on something they enjoy...so why is right to take away their stuff and not others? Just because they bot?

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

PocketSunshine wrote:

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Really?

Two wrongs may or many not make a right, depending on varying situations and viewpoints.

Consider how America entered WWII.

Consider how America entered thishellishwarinthemiddleeast.

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

xKingpinx wrote:

Azilius wrote:

Hennessey wrote:

botting effects the ingame econemy a bit, it makes the game seem more dead, it lets ppl cap faster than others.

it doesnt hurt others tho

hacking accounts whether they were botted or not is wrong. people become atached to their characters and also spend alot of irl money on them in most cases. to take away something they own is alot worse than them botting their own char

The **** you smoking? Botting is the ONLY reason the economy is farked up. It hurts everyone in the game and it's the biggest reason silkroad fails. Botting = gold bots = buy gold = bad economy = less sever space = less legits. It's not hard.

Why do they deserve their characters? A thief can spend years coming up with the perfect plan to steal a diamond, spend thousands doing so and then you think he gets it keep it? No. Cheaters deserve what they get.

Who are you to say what happens to other's property though? If they used IRL money and paid for this char that was some hard earned money out of some of their pockets and they used it on something they enjoy...so why is right to take away their stuff and not others? Just because they bot?

i lold, becuz it affects others, ppl who actually wanna play the game, paying to cheat is in no way deserving, paying for answers to an exam is in no way right and those should be punished by the institution (JM) or by peers (other players) and we know JM takes no action so its upto other players to improve the community.

.curve · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 5:58 am

Bop wrote:

2 wrongs do make a right in this situation and if you think any otherwise, your contributing to the death of w/e is left of srf

Didn't Argonaut scam some Sun axes on Venus, and everyone congratulated him for it? I believe Fly got them. Hypocrisy isn't cool.

Bop · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1130 **Location:**

.curve wrote:

Bop wrote:

2 wrongs do make a right in this situation and if you think any otherwise, your contributing to the death of w/e is left of srf

Didn't Argonaut scam some Sun axes on Venus, and everyone congratulated him for it? I believe Fly got them. Hypocrisy isn't cool.

botter's deserve nothing.

SirSengir · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 184 **Location:**

Old club is old, and as far as I know, haven't done shit lately.

.curve · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:13 am

Bop wrote:

.curve wrote:

Bop wrote:

2 wrongs do make a right in this situation and if you think any otherwise, your contributing to the death of w/e is left of srf

Didn't Argonaut scam some Sun axes on Venus, and everyone congratulated him for it? I believe Fly got them. Hypocrisy isn't cool.

botter's deserve nothing.

Lawl read your post wrong. I swore it said two wrongs don't make a right. IMO, two wrongs don't make a right here. But what do I care, I don't play anymore. I like to troll GD.

DarkJackal · **Joined:** Feb 2006 **Posts:** 6119 **Location:** A den~

I agree 2 wrongs here do make a right, that saying is not fact.

If you are getting rid of something that's harming the game and against the rules, how is that not good lol, just someones gonna get their feelings hurt or something? What about the rest of the players, if theres nothing to correct the 1st wrong should there just 1 wrong and nothing? Fight fire with fire. If they cheat, cheat them out.

.curve · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:22 am

DarkJackal wrote:

I agree 2 wrongs here do make a right, that saying is not fact.

If you are getting rid of something that's harming the game and against the rules, how is that not good lol, just someones gonna get their feelings hurt or something? What about the rest of the players, if theres nothing to correct the 1st wrong should there just 1 wrong and nothing? Fight fire with fire. If they cheat, cheat them out.

Lawl then both players should be banned.

ImmortalKiller · **Joined:** Aug 2008 **Posts:** 675 **Location:** VA/CA

Bop wrote:

botter's deserve nothing.

Botter is deserve nothing?

The thing the botters possess deserve nothing?

Grammar Nazi, use the apostrophe sparingly yet appropriately.

.curve · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:27 am

ImmortalKiller wrote:

Bop wrote:

botter's deserve nothing.

Botter is deserve nothing?

The thing the botters possess deserve nothing?

Grammar Nazi, use the apostrophe sparingly yet appropriately.

lawl I love you.

Doppleganger · **Posted:** Tue Mar 03, 2009 6:44 am

Blurred wrote:

You guys take this game way to seriously.

Yea lol

Lets pretend that this "club" is serious lol

What system would they have that shows a person is 100% a botter?
Who would they have to prove it too to start the "hacking" process.
What do they do with the gold and equipment that is taken from these accounts?
Are they taking it for there own gain, dropping it all in town, putting it in another account then deleted that account?
Depending on how they go about of "hacking" these accounts couldn't they be breaking some laws?
I don't think getting in that territory is worth it. : \ Even tho it would be great for the ingame economy it's just not the right way to handle it. Even tho it seems 99.99% pointless the only right way of doing this is to complain to joymax about it and have them take care of there game the way they want.

brb gonna get a chocolaty snack, two for me none for you.

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