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 Post subject: Will There be New Trade Mounts?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 4:15 pm 
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if not, then I won't be playing for the 100 cap. It's just going to be the same old shit.

Jobbing will become worse if we are at lv 100 and still using lvl 60 trade mounts...

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Same transports. Spend twenty cents plz.

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well, this game is going to be a piece of crap then. there is no point in reaching lv 100 now, they just want your money.

off to warhammer -.-

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lol Warhammer is garbage. ijji where is my Huxley that has been delayed since 04? =[

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well, this game is going to be a piece of crap then. there is no point in reaching lv 100 now, they just want your money.

off to warhammer -.-

no kidding!

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well, this game is going to be a piece of crap then. there is no point in reaching lv 100 now, they just want your money.

off to warhammer -.-

no kidding!


Obviously, because Joymax is a business. What is a business for? To make money.

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yes, but a good company also earns their money by giving their customers their moneys worth.

joymax doesn't do that.

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They do, but thats for the items you paid for. Rather than gameplay. Sadly enough if the users weren't complete assholes botting wouldn't be a problem. If people didn't buy gold then gold companies would stop farming.

It isn't completely Joymax's fault, but still they should've banned botters before. The users are at fault here, too.

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you can't tell me paying $50+ a month for this god-forsaken game just to play competitive is giving us our moneys worth? this game isn't even worth $25 a month.

if i'm paying that much for a game i want flawless customer service.

just look back at the 70 cap where all you needed was a gold ticket and monkey which was only about $20 a month, and that was just for leveling. you really didn't need to pay anything after you were done leveling/farming.

and just look how many people actually went jobbing, did pvp, etc. you don't see much of it now.

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You don't need a premium+ to stay in the game. You can still buy a gold ticket and a monkey and still be fun. Just add a goodie or two here and there. $20 can still be your monthly limit.

You just CHOOSE to buy a ticket that lasts longer and has benefits rather than the cheaper one just the basic need of exp.

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you didn't get the point. back in 70 cap you could play competitive (as in pvp) without having to spend $30. now you have to have a premium plus because everyone else buys it. how often do you see a lvl 90 w/o prem+ beat a lv 90 w/prem +

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oOYunaOo wrote:
you didn't get the point. back in 70 cap you could play competitive (as in pvp) without having to spend $30. now you have to have a premium plus because everyone else buys it. how often do you see a lvl 90 w/o prem+ beat a lv 90 w/prem +

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ooo pick me pick me!
I hope they get new transports :\. I quit trader at like 87 because I couldn't pot a lvl 60 bull with my laggy net.


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You dont need to buy from item mall, use behemots.

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Pfff wrote:
You dont need to buy from item mall, use behemots.


I think they are called Behemoths. But I'm not sure. And behemoths can hardly handle a 5* Bargain with 2 hunters let alone a 5* Bargain @ 100. So a silk trans would be best since the transport's hp is based on the level of the user.

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Do like i do. buy 50 silk = $5. Thats 50/2 = 25 silk trans. Hp is lvl based and dont just use them for 1 trade. Try to find a time when u can do like 2~3 trades at a time in you server. Thats why i do. ^_^ cant wait to spawn lv100 npc xD

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chesticles wrote:
Do like i do. buy 50 silk = $5. Thats 50/2 = 25 silk trans. Hp is lvl based and dont just use them for 1 trade. Try to find a time when u can do like 2~3 trades at a time in you server. Thats why i do. ^_^ cant wait to spawn lv100 npc xD


Sorry for off topic but chesti, you still on eos?

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oOYunaOo wrote:
you didn't get the point. back in 70 cap you could play competitive (as in pvp) without having to spend $30. now you have to have a premium plus because everyone else buys it. how often do you see a lvl 90 w/o prem+ beat a lv 90 w/prem +

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I see a level 90 with nothing kill lv 90s with everything. Very often. In fact to add to that.. I was running around without a premium+ a couple months after 90cap came out. Just two months after 90cap I didn't need the ticket any more so I didn't bother buying anything else. I turned out alright.(Random note about my gear. I did not use 84 legs ever. I was just too cheap/lazy to create a lv 84 pair) I pvp'd fine. I logged in easily. I even did alchemy on my set and managed to come out with my jewels all 61%~100% and maxed out blues with 5str on a piece.

Again.. You still can buy a gold ticket and a monkey then saving left over silk to buy some 'goodies'. Now that would be a suit over time or scrolls.

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You dont need to buy from item mall, use behemots.


I think they are called Behemoths. But I'm not sure. And behemoths can hardly handle a 5* Bargain with 2 hunters let alone a 5* Bargain @ 100. So a silk trans would be best since the transport's hp is based on the level of the user.

Is it really important how is spelled?
Behemot survives 5* easy now, but at 100cap who knows.

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 Post subject: Re: Will There be New Trade Mounts?
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They do, but thats for the items you paid for. Rather than gameplay. Sadly enough if the users weren't complete assholes botting wouldn't be a problem. If people didn't buy gold then gold companies would stop farming.

It isn't completely Joymax's fault, but still they should've banned botters before. The users are at fault here, too.


Pass me a puff of that la la dust that you're inhaling...Did I hear you correct? "It isn't completely Joymax's fault"?!!?!? When you create a situation for bad things to happen they will happen. And that's exactly what joymax is doing. There will always be gold buyers and botters as long as joymax doesn't do much to stop them.

You cant blame thieves for jacking your car when you knowingly and carelessly leave the doors open with the keys inside. You blame yourself for that... Just like the blame should be placed 100% on Joymax shoulders for there so called "effort" on removing bots. Which is a joke

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Pfff wrote:
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You dont need to buy from item mall, use behemots.


I think they are called Behemoths. But I'm not sure. And behemoths can hardly handle a 5* Bargain with 2 hunters let alone a 5* Bargain @ 100. So a silk trans would be best since the transport's hp is based on the level of the user.

Is it really important how is spelled?
Behemot survives 5* easy now, but at 100cap who knows.



1) It just bothers me when people cant say or spell things that are spelled out in the game for them.

2) I said "Bargain 5*". Ever since bargain came out more and more people do bargain for the double exp and the excitement of the double spawns. So a BEHEMOTH might be able to tank a 5* well atm but not a bargain.

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 Post subject: Re: Will There be New Trade Mounts?
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we dont need new trade mounts... if you buy a trans from item mall it will be the same lv as you. if you are lv 93 the trans stats would calculate to a lv 93 trans.


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They do, but thats for the items you paid for. Rather than gameplay. Sadly enough if the users weren't complete assholes botting wouldn't be a problem. If people didn't buy gold then gold companies would stop farming.

It isn't completely Joymax's fault, but still they should've banned botters before. The users are at fault here, too.


Pass me a puff of that la la dust that you're inhaling...Did I hear you correct? "It isn't completely Joymax's fault"?!!?!? When you create a situation for bad things to happen they will happen. And that's exactly what joymax is doing. There will always be gold buyers and botters as long as joymax doesn't do much to stop them.

You cant blame thieves for jacking your car when you knowingly and carelessly leave the doors open with the keys inside. You blame yourself for that... Just like the blame should be placed 100% on Joymax shoulders for there so called "effort" on removing bots. Which is a joke


Your comparison is fail.. however, you're telling me that gun crime is the creator's fault? Rather than the wielder? Ohh c'mon. If the gun wasn't used by assholes then the world would be fine.

Let's be serious here.. it is BOTH the users and company's fault.

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Toshiharu wrote:
Your comparison is fail.. however, you're telling me that gun crime is the creator's fault? Rather than the wielder? Ohh c'mon. If the gun wasn't used by assholes then the world would be fine.

Let's be serious here.. it is BOTH the users and company's fault.


Yep, Toshi wins. Both parties are at fault.

I'd "Thank" or "+1" you but this forum has no such feature..so.. "+1". <- belongs to you, enjoy.

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People seem to forget that Behemoths are not at all easy to come by. If you want to trade at higher levels, your going to need silk. Trading used to be part of the free silkroad experience. It's shifting away now.


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They do, but thats for the items you paid for. Rather than gameplay. Sadly enough if the users weren't complete assholes botting wouldn't be a problem. If people didn't buy gold then gold companies would stop farming.

It isn't completely Joymax's fault, but still they should've banned botters before. The users are at fault here, too.


Pass me a puff of that la la dust that you're inhaling...Did I hear you correct? "It isn't completely Joymax's fault"?!!?!? When you create a situation for bad things to happen they will happen. And that's exactly what joymax is doing. There will always be gold buyers and botters as long as joymax doesn't do much to stop them.

You cant blame thieves for jacking your car when you knowingly and carelessly leave the doors open with the keys inside. You blame yourself for that... Just like the blame should be placed 100% on Joymax shoulders for there so called "effort" on removing bots. Which is a joke


Your comparison is fail.. however, you're telling me that gun crime is the creator's fault? Rather than the wielder? Ohh c'mon. If the gun wasn't used by assholes then the world would be fine.

Let's be serious here.. it is BOTH the users and company's fault.



You're defending Joymax? Thats epic lulz. Their greed and incompetence has ruined this game. I could write a book but won't.


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From what I see he's not defending anyone. Simply stating it's both sides fault the game is in the condition it is. Pretty simple.

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Aint there gonna be new horses or something? The Ironclad horses suks alot. I heard there's gonna be like Silverclad horse (lv75) and Goldclad horse (lv90).


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They do, but thats for the items you paid for. Rather than gameplay. Sadly enough if the users weren't complete assholes botting wouldn't be a problem. If people didn't buy gold then gold companies would stop farming.

It isn't completely Joymax's fault, but still they should've banned botters before. The users are at fault here, too.


Pass me a puff of that la la dust that you're inhaling...Did I hear you correct? "It isn't completely Joymax's fault"?!!?!? When you create a situation for bad things to happen they will happen. And that's exactly what joymax is doing. There will always be gold buyers and botters as long as joymax doesn't do much to stop them.

You cant blame thieves for jacking your car when you knowingly and carelessly leave the doors open with the keys inside. You blame yourself for that... Just like the blame should be placed 100% on Joymax shoulders for there so called "effort" on removing bots. Which is a joke


Ehm, you can blame the thieves to, why taking something that isnt yours? Just because it's unlocked and the keys are inside doesnt mean they can take it.
I think you should be able to leave your car open without have to worry about the car gonna be stolen.

So it's both the company and players fault.


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Greed and hypocrisy, I'd say that's pretty much it. People will take advantage of whatever they can when they can, and those who can't will continue to whine and bitch but tends to do just the same once they can.

SRO is a 'free' game, no one forces you to play or pay for anything. So any grief or whatever you have to complain about is pretty much self inflicted, so hey maybe you should blame yourself for ever and still, somehow, associating with it.

And on a side note, there really is no such thing as a free lunch.

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Again.. You still can buy a gold ticket and a monkey then saving left over silk to buy some 'goodies'. Now that would be a suit over time or scrolls.


Yet you won't be able to login to use it.

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