Premium is a load of %#@*

sting13 · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 689 **Location:**

Ok so i was done my euro set finally, but i didnt get to pimp my glavie for my chinese before it ended, so last night i said fk it and tried, all stats were 0% except for AR which was 81%. NO PREMIUM. I had less alchemy luck when the damn premium was on :banghead:

Whatever finally i have decent glavie to replace the one i destroyed (I know its not done). Do you guys find premium alchemy increase works at all?

Toshiharu · **Joined:** Feb 2008 **Posts:** 4222 **Location:** Nowhere

The percentage on the stuff you blue isn't affected by premium, but rather succeeding.

Premium helps, but once again.. it doesn't help enough to see a difference. At least it didn't to me when I had prem for a couple months.

willieb3 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:17 pm

I thought that you get a 5% lucky increase which helps when +sing equips and a 10% alchemy probability which increases getting good blues

Anyways, did you get +5 without premium? Also no I find when i have a premium I get +3 and +4 easier but +5 is a different story 180 elexirs .. still hoping

sting13 · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 689 **Location:**

the +5 was done with premium, but on the glavie which i destroyed i tried +6 and +7 without prem, both succeded

willieb3 · **Posted:** Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:49 pm

maybe you were lucky ? and premium doesn't really help a crap load.. its just 5%

CeLL · **Posted:** Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:55 pm

So r u telling me the only reason you buy a prem is for the alchemy luck increase??
If not, and you actually use the other features, then why bitch???
Alchemy is ENTIRLY luck based. The % increases arent much.
And just because you do well without a prem, doesn’t make a premium worthless,
it just mean you had bad luck. The dice didn’t roll well for you that day.
If I give you a die and tell you you have to roll a 5 or 6 to win, .
and give you a luck rock that adds 1 to your rolls, that doesn’t mean you will roll 5 or 6 all the time.
You could STILL roll 1, 2, or 3 EVERY SINGLE ROLL! Then I take the luck stone back and you roll five 6's in a row
Is it the luck stones fault you suck of just your luck? (or you for even trying in the first place?)

its life, deal with it or gtfo.

JustaDude · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 686 **Location:**

Well, i find premium useful when adding blues, for +'s there are other things to take in mind rather than luck. Premium is not that much of a help when +'ing

OTG · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 1060 **Location:**

Nice weapon. Well the percentage is too small to really test it out.

didino · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 57 **Location:**

nice crit and yes premiun help but you cant realy rely on it is just about luck

Glavie's Girl · **Joined:** Jun 2007 **Posts:** 1464 **Location:**

premium isnt just for alchemy... though I do agree with you anyways lol

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

+7'd my glaive second try with prem +. Took >500mil to make half a +6 set without prem. It does help, just not a lot. If the base luck is 1% chance and you have a 10% increase to that 1%, does it become 11% or 1.1%. :roll:

RedBlueGreen · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 772 **Location:** England

Azilius wrote:

+7'd my glaive second try with prem +. Took >500mil to make half a +6 set without prem. It does help, just not a lot. If the base luck is 1% chance and you have a 10% increase to that 1%, does it become 11% or 1.1%. :roll:

5% not 10%... the 10% is for stones 5%for plusing..

if you mean stones then yeah.. just looks like u said plusing

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

buying premium for alchemy? lol
yesterday i made 85+7 euro shield (no premium, no lucky stone)
today i made chiense shield 85+7 same story, no premium no lucky stone

:roll:

as for white %.. used 20 stones for br.. 10-10-12-10-fail...fail-10-10 alot of assimilations.
if u are lucky.. alchemy is awesome.. if u have no luck at all... u can have 100 premium+ activated and fail +2

JustaDude · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 686 **Location:**

garner wrote:

buying premium for alchemy? lol
yesterday i made 85+7 euro shield (no premium, no lucky stone)
today i made chiense shield 85+7 same story, no premium no lucky stone

:roll:

as for white %.. used 20 stones for br.. 10-10-12-10-fail...fail-10-10 alot of assimilations.
if u are lucky.. alchemy is awesome.. if u have no luck at all... u can have 100 premium+ activated and fail +2

This is a fact. i've made several +7 even +8 w/o prem, im always with prem now but still.. its not much of a difference

_MvP_ · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 1423 **Location:**

garner wrote:

buying premium for alchemy? lol
yesterday i made 85+7 euro shield (no premium, no lucky stone)
today i made chiense shield 85+7 same story, no premium no lucky stone

:roll:

as for white %.. used 20 stones for br.. 10-10-12-10-fail...fail-10-10 alot of assimilations.
if u are lucky.. alchemy is awesome.. if u have no luck at all... u can have 100 premium+ activated and fail +2

True.
I made a lot +7 and few +8 on my old main acc. And now since I dont play that character anymore dont buy him premium so I bought on my new, and I tryed plusing there, I had hard making set +3 with premium+ and on my old I made +7 and few +5 last days without premium.

Azilius · **Joined:** Oct 2006 **Posts:** 4236 **Location:** CS:GO

RedBlueGreen wrote:

Azilius wrote:

+7'd my glaive second try with prem +. Took >500mil to make half a +6 set without prem. It does help, just not a lot. If the base luck is 1% chance and you have a 10% increase to that 1%, does it become 11% or 1.1%. :roll:

5% not 10%... the 10% is for stones 5%for plusing..

if you mean stones then yeah.. just looks like u said plusing

Just an example of how they could be screwing us.

selenne · **Joined:** Jul 2008 **Posts:** 1176 **Location:**

bow 85 failed 3 times to +6. with prem+, luck stone, lucky powder and shit.

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

i made over 10+ +7's and 1 +9 without prem... pwnzors

JustaDude · **Joined:** Apr 2008 **Posts:** 686 **Location:**

xKingpinx wrote:

i made over 10+ +7's and 1 +9 without prem... pwnzors

i made 8 +13's and one +14 without prem... pwnzors

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

JustaDude wrote:

xKingpinx wrote:

i made over 10+ +7's and 1 +9 without prem... pwnzors

i made 8 +13's and one +14 without prem... pwnzors

nice man!

/sarcasticness

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

without premium i made a bunch of +7, close to 100x +6, 3 +8, 2 +9
and here is one of them.. made 5 mins ago

*no premium/lucky stones used (i'm a cheap bastard :roll:

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SwordCloud · **Posted:** Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:29 pm

dam good game! :shock:

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

huh.. got 950m offer for my shield... should i sell? :roll:

Sylar · **Joined:** Mar 2008 **Posts:** 1571 **Location:**

garner wrote:

huh.. got 950m offer for my shield... should i sell? :roll:

go for 999m

RedBlueGreen · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 772 **Location:** England

Sylar wrote:

garner wrote:

huh.. got 950m offer for my shield... should i sell? :roll:

go for 999m

>.< im trying to sell two +9 chinese shields.. level 85, i wish i was on your server lol..

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

wow... alchemy went crazy lately...
there are already 2 85+9 bows on my server,1 85+9 blade, 1 85+10 shield chinese and my 85+9 euro shield.

on my old server there was a guy who made a 9d sun 2h+9/sun xbow +8/ sun glaive +10/and a 90+10 chest lol.

red.. i wish i'd had those 2 +9 shields :p
i offered my shield and 100m for chinese +10 but got turned down

xKingpinx · **Joined:** Aug 2007 **Posts:** 2153 **Location:**

i got a 85 +7 FB shield lvl 85 and 1 bil for my 85 +9 shield on alexander

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

and how do u suppose to get the +7 without being scammed?
it's either i get the +7 first or after the +9 is sold for 1b. so i can either run with the +7 or him.
and it's an euro shield.. it's a bit cheaper than chinese's shields.

The Furious Ninja · **Joined:** Nov 2008 **Posts:** 353 **Location:**

+5 and crit 12, thats still pretty nice

garner wrote:

huh.. got 950m offer for my shield... should i sell? :roll:

i probally would if i were you, that'd put you over 1 b, could probally make another sheild at least a plus 7 with that much and have alot to spare

edit you're chinese, sell that sheild you'd be happier with 950 m then a sheild you can't use

garner · **Joined:** Jan 2009 **Posts:** 139 **Location:**

i also have a warlock/cleric lvl 52 but i'm planning to make a stock of gold ready for 10d maybe i can get some suns :roll:

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