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 Post subject: why no modification for bow skill??
PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 9:14 pm 
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dam..after the skill modification bow skill seems weaker than
blade or spear skill now.
why no defense skill for bow??? bow users are weak already, they are
now making it more worse.


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What do you want? +500 mag and phy boost for 15sec...

But yeah bow's going down ;(


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I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker

Still think bows going down? I'm happy with being a glaive still, but if I had to reroll I would actualy make a bowman cause they are a very sexy class.

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Jay wrote:
I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker

Still think bows going down? I'm happy with being a glaive still, but if I had to reroll I would actualy make a bowman cause they are a very sexy class.

yes sexy but not really meant to 1vs1 and usually bows die if they dont use their advantages - range etc :)


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Jay wrote:
I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker

Still think bows going down? I'm happy with being a glaive still, but if I had to reroll I would actualy make a bowman cause they are a very sexy class.

yes sexy but not really meant to 1vs1 and usually bows die if they dont use their advantages - range etc :)


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Jay wrote:
I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker


Bows have a low AR to begin with
Glaivers also use the hawk.
I'd also say Glaivers level almost as fast as bows.
Yes they have higher chance to crit, but since overall damage is lower they need it.
Also they are still missing a defensive move as well as a stun that other weapons have.

I do not think they are going down though. Still fun to play.

You are right on with yarkan though, although it will change soon I think and glaiver swill get the kill as people level and some people stop going for all the glory of only hitting yarkan, not his mobs.


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Jay wrote:
I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker

Still think bows going down? I'm happy with being a glaive still, but if I had to reroll I would actualy make a bowman cause they are a very sexy class.


Did I miss something??
Since when does AR make you attack faster? I sure as hell don't notice it when I switch to a level 1 sword and then back to my lv 29 sword.

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I believe if bows had a defensive move then they would be overpowered. The ability to attack from a distance, high criticals and quick skills.

Although, the Europe crossbow user has a knockback skill but they seem to attack a bit slower.

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bow attack are generally lower, instead of increaseing the damage,
a knock back % on multi arrow would be impressive.


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wildlag wrote:
bow attack are generally lower, instead of increaseing the damage,
a knock back % on multi arrow would be impressive.


Rofl, knockback on anything BUT multi-arrow would make sense. A 4-hit arrow combo that fires at lightning speed AND has a chance of knockback basically means it will happen almost always and therefore is overpowered. :roll:

Everyone always forgets about the Crystal Wall and Fire Tower series. A glaiver/blader obviously can't use those two well, since they need to move, and if a nuker were to use one, an Archer's higher range still allows him to go out of range and hit from far away. That means that only an archer would be able to use it well. The increase isn't as large as castle shield or fanning spear, but the cooldown is also faster.

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woutR wrote:
Jay wrote:
I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker

Still think bows going down? I'm happy with being a glaive still, but if I had to reroll I would actualy make a bowman cause they are a very sexy class.


Did I miss something??
Since when does AR make you attack faster? I sure as hell don't notice it when I switch to a level 1 sword and then back to my lv 29 sword.


Test it with someone having lower attacking rating then you and you having higher attack ratting see who goes first.

And yes, they can use flame tower and crystal wall verry well in pvp's cause of their long distances making them still good builds for 1 vs 1 I may not know all the advantages/disadvantages for being a bowman cause their not my class but from what I see, there pretty sweet one.

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Jay wrote:
woutR wrote:
Jay wrote:
I wouldn't complain that much, bow are not going down, there good at killing yarkan and they lvl up faster then other pure str class cause of their first book skill and not to mention their 68 skill is actualy a decent skill that can be used in pvp unlike the glaive's 69 skill, like anyone would use chains in a pvp.. Bow's arn't so underhanded as you think they:

Got a eagle that increaces your attack ratting, or helps attack for you.
Combo's are fast and pimped.
You got a skill that increaces your distance making you shoot from even further away giving you the advantage
And your passive gives you even more attack ratting making you attack quicker

Still think bows going down? I'm happy with being a glaive still, but if I had to reroll I would actualy make a bowman cause they are a very sexy class.


Did I miss something??
Since when does AR make you attack faster? I sure as hell don't notice it when I switch to a level 1 sword and then back to my lv 29 sword.


Test it with someone having lower attacking rating then you and you having higher attack ratting see who goes first.

And yes, they can use flame tower and crystal wall verry well in pvp's cause of their long distances making them still good builds for 1 vs 1 I may not know all the advantages/disadvantages for being a bowman cause their not my class but from what I see, there pretty sweet one.


iirc AR does not make you attack faster, it makes you hit more towards your peak damage more. for example, if your damage range is 100-300, a higher attack rating with make you hit more towards 300 more.

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Rapture wrote:
wildlag wrote:
bow attack are generally lower, instead of increaseing the damage,
a knock back % on multi arrow would be impressive.


Rofl, knockback on anything BUT multi-arrow would make sense. A 4-hit arrow combo that fires at lightning speed AND has a chance of knockback basically means it will happen almost always and therefore is overpowered. :roll:

Not if it was only 5% chance or something. adding upto 20% for the combo.

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