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 Post subject: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:52 pm 
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Because I'm not sure about the real + of SoN towards normal 101 weapon I would like to compare them.

First pic is about XMoshe's SoN Spear +5
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Second pic shows my +8 spear ( bad stats I know, but I need to collect tabs etc..)

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Yesterday I saw a clean SoN spear +1 and I compared my spear with that clean SoN spear.

if the SoN = +7 then it would have nearly the same stat as my spear.

But I realized that my spear had 200 mag damage more than that SoN spear +1.

That's why I'm not sure if SoN = 101+7

I'll try to find that SoN + 1 spear to make a screenie..

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:56 pm 
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It's +7.
Has been said over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again on these forums.

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:01 pm 
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it's around +6-7 in attack power
+7-10 if you count the reinforce too

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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Didnt know +8 was a normal weapon. I cant even get +4.

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Didnt know +8 was a normal weapon. I cant even get +4.

Yeah really, my thoughts are that joymax farked with alchemy, making it harder to plus/stone items

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VforVendetta wrote:
Didnt know +8 was a normal weapon. I cant even get +4.

Next time try more then 3 elixers :sohappy:

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem.

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If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem.

i have a sasan glavie 90..and it is +6 >.> am i a nuup?

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Jambi wrote:
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If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem.

i have a sasan glavie 90..and it is +6 >.> am i a nuup?

I didn't mean noobs<+7>pros. Now just everyone has a lot of gold and they + alot.
Don't compare a SoN+1 with a normal +8 if u will make it about the same as +8.

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I failed +2 4 times in a row :palm: and yes son = 101 +7 including the reinforce effect 106 if you just consider the attack power

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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found this on rev6

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sun 10D compare to son 11D is about +1.1 difference
but comparing to normal weapon it should be about a diff of ~+1.5

101+ ~+6.5 =~ son 101+0

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I'll be sure to +7 mine lol. Some guy in the union has a 90+11 Sun bow, he doesn't have to get a 101 one unless he can get a nova and +9/10/11 that too lol.

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Jambi wrote:
omier44 wrote:
If u get a SoN wep u will make it at least +7 anyways so no problem.

i have a sasan glavie 90..and it is +6 >.> am i a nuup?


I have a sun +6 staff 90 lvl, so i'm with u bro :yay: Never wanted it at +7 anyways, but now i might make it +8 if i find a b grade elixir :)

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I'll be sure to +7 mine lol. Some guy in the union has a 90+11 Sun bow, he doesn't have to get a 101 one unless he can get a nova and +9/10/11 that too lol.


10d suns rox, i'm so glad i didn't sold mine :D

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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High plus ftw :)

but it's impossible to find a b grade elixir weapon 11D no sealed on my server -.-

sealed b grade elixirs are easier to get :/

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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Yesterday, an accessory I was working on went 1, 2, 0, 1, 0, 1, 0, and yes, I was using lucky powders. How can people +7 +9 +11?? I think I got a +5 once and that was the highlight of my alchemy career.

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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It's all about luck.IMO you can't push your luck with prem plus and luck dress etc. That's why I prefer pimping with prem silver without luck dress ( waste of silk I think )
I've made 3 +9 items ( without adv. elixir ).

I prefer pimping clean items because I think I'm luckier with them. And I never try go on pimping items which failed at +2 because every item has its own luck probability.

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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Moshe has a SoN spear?? damn :o


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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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Ramidux wrote:
Moshe has a SoN spear?? damn :o


No it's all an illusion :O

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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TillTheEnd wrote:

101+ ~+6.5 =~ son 101+0


+6.5...

TOLD YA!!!! xD

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Gladiator_RN wrote:
TillTheEnd wrote:

101+ ~+6.5 =~ son 101+0


+6.5...

TOLD YA!!!! xD


With lower reinforces...

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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XMoshe wrote:
Ramidux wrote:
Moshe has a SoN spear?? damn :o


No it's all an illusion :O

I'll try to find your char on rev6 ^^

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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I was already wondering why it took you so long.

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
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i know who is account, lulz :)


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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:39 am 
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Go to MMOsite weapon calculator, it can calculate SoN weapon data and compared two weapons.
http://sro.db.mmosite.com/tools/weapon/index.shtml

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 Post subject: Re: the comparison of SoN and normal weapon
PostPosted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:14 am 
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^thanks for the link.

It seems like nova+0 is actually better than 101+8 if that mmosite calculator is correct.
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total physical attack power from both blades:

fLPhy = (sPts * (lowPRein / 100) + lowPhy) * (wpnMast / 100 + 1);
fHPhy = (sPts * (highPRein / 100) + highPhy) * (wpnMast / 100 + 1);

sPts = max str @110 = 20+109*4+12*7 = 540

nova+0 = 6673,548 - 7672,476
101+8 = 6731,55 - 7612,92


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