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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:15 pm 
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It's a good discussion.

Though in the end guys, fact remains... It's not hard to write software that can make sure bots don't exist...

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 6:28 pm 
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[SD]Twysta wrote:
It's a good discussion.

Though in the end guys, fact remains... It's not hard to write software that can make sure bots don't exist...


So then... write the software. :-P

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Mon Mar 29, 2010 7:45 pm 
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I think the port sniffer is going a bit too far, hehe. Not saying, but I'm just saying...people wouldn't want you looking around, even if they have absolutely nothing to hide. That has to be against the law as well. The police couldn't just do a 'friendly walkthrough' of your home, for no reason at all...

I'm with you guys on this one: JM maintains their own software, so why can't they just write it in their code? Problem solved!

Let's see if JM really decides to give this game a fair shake and implements a lot of those 'no more botters' initiatives they have been touting the past 3 or 4 years.

Mind you, they will in effect cut off their head to spite their neck if they do so. They don't realize there is no happy medium in letting player bots roam, and only banning goldbots. Suffice to say that their bottom line gained from the former far outweighs the latter, hence their dilemma.

Rules exist for a reason - if you have too many exceptions to those rules, there's no point in having the rule. Based on their current upholding of the rules they imposed, their ToS is a mere suggestion for fair play. Where are the consequences?

Super easy way of getting rid of bots? Re-code the game. Sell all the things for which people use these programs (directly or indirectly) at the item mall, and for less money (JM shouldn't care, since this is income they are not getting now - or is it [insert conspiracy theory here]?) Sell it all - SOX, Gold, XP, SP, etc. Turn it into a complete buy here, pay here. That's where it's headed anyway.

"...I'll sell my inventions so that 'everyone' can have powers. Everyone can be super! And when everyone's super - no one will be." <- Syndrome, The Incredibles :P

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
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the very suggestion of this is outlandish. i remember back in the day there was a user and mod interacting concerning the the ip address of another user for stalker related issues like this. that ended ugly. and so shall this if it goes unchecked.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:21 pm 
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while the idea of Joymax doing this sounds good, Prometheus has touched on most of the points...good luck with seeing OUTBOUND connections from a PC to a bot server.

This is not cool on so many levels.

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@Topic Starter - You Sir, are an idiot. Spy on the wrong person, and you may find yourself in a very f.ucked up place. Just sayin'.

Besides, you are wasting your time and need to get off your computer chair and go read a book or contribute to society.

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@Topic Starter - You Sir, are an idiot. Spy on the wrong person, and you may find yourself in a very f.ucked up place. Just sayin'.

Besides, you are wasting your time and need to get off your computer chair and go read a book or contribute to society.


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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
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@Topic Starter - You Sir, are an idiot. Spy on the wrong person, and you may find yourself in a very f.ucked up place. Just sayin'.

Besides, you are wasting your time and need to get off your computer chair and go read a book or contribute to society.


No....Just No, GTFO my SRF, hbu you read the full post and quit with ur **** bud, becuz if you would've clearly read, your homo status wouldnt be raging atm..if you reply to this you need to unistall windows

but ONT :)

No, going through someones computer is takin a walk through the house, here you are just walking around a house on a public street looking if any special doors are open :)

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 8:17 am 
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Scanning some1 ports is illegal, its called an attack.
You see, when i know your open ports, i know a way to get in your pc.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 9:03 am 
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Gaige wrote:
HawaiianMix wrote:
@Topic Starter - You Sir, are an idiot. Spy on the wrong person, and you may find yourself in a very f.ucked up place. Just sayin'.

Besides, you are wasting your time and need to get off your computer chair and go read a book or contribute to society.


No....Just No, GTFO my SRF, hbu you read the full post and quit with ur **** bud, becuz if you would've clearly read, your homo status wouldnt be raging atm..if you reply to this you need to unistall windows

but ONT :)

No, going through someones computer is takin a walk through the house, here you are just walking around a house on a public street looking if any special doors are open :)


You can walk around public roads staring at my house all you want, but that won't tell you who or what I am communicating with in the outside world on my computer or phone.

Port scan would identify if I'm running a bot server or not. It won't tell you if I am connecting to someone else's bot server or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 12:23 pm 
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i didnt read all of the posts i had to stop
What the F*ck look at your selves, this is to far for a game's unoffical forum's war against bots.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
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Gaige wrote:
HawaiianMix wrote:
@Topic Starter - You Sir, are an idiot. Spy on the wrong person, and you may find yourself in a very f.ucked up place. Just sayin'.

Besides, you are wasting your time and need to get off your computer chair and go read a book or contribute to society.


No....Just No, GTFO my SRF, hbu you read the full post and quit with ur **** bud, becuz if you would've clearly read, your homo status wouldnt be raging atm..if you reply to this you need to unistall windows

but ONT :)

No, going through someones computer is takin a walk through the house, here you are just walking around a house on a public street looking if any special doors are open :)

no, its more like walk up to and staring in the windows to see if you can find naked children. you have issues and you need help.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
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I'm taking a bath and the window of the bathroom is opened. Whoever wants to see is welcome :)

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I understand constructive criticism, but being rude about your view pisses people off, how about you keep the asshole remarks to yourself and contribute usefully. I suggested this port sniffer, and I just suggested it, I nor anyone else in the matter has used the technique with my idea. This was just a suggestion to help find people who are botting. This isn't the end of the world SRF, if you wanna see the end of the world go to runescape -_-

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I'm taking a bath and the window of the bathroom is opened. Whoever wants to see is welcome :)

its still illegal here in america for people to come up and obviously stare into the window.

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 Post subject: Re: Bot Finder if legal
PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2010 7:12 pm 
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I'm taking a bath and the window of the bathroom is opened. Whoever wants to see is welcome :)

its still illegal here in america for people to come up and obviously stare into the window.


Your Farking forum name is Cell, surely you should be the one to state the opposite... :roll:

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