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 Post subject: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:33 am 
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Well, here goes. I'm not posting this in EB since I think it's more of a general discussion thing, but I'll let the mods decide.

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So I talked to Rivaer for over an hour and a half this evening. (Notice I said 'to' and not with'... lul.) When I got back from work, he was near my main char in town, so I went over and started blabbing on about how the GM's are just a publicity stunt and whatnot. There was a rather large group of non-english speaking people there at this point, so no one could really get his attention. Heck, people wouldn't even stand in a line to get screenshots with him - it was just a big bunch of people. About at this point, I jokingly suggested to old guildmates that I was going to connect multiple chars and set up a stall message to get his attention.

So I did this, and by this point he moved from dw to sk, which was a rather large pain, since I had to move several chars' stalls to get his attention. People were still crowding around... someone even spawned a behemoth on top of him :banghead: After a few mins, it was obvious he was getting rather frustrated because it was still just a big bunch of non-english speaking people not listening to his instructions. He then said he was going away, turned invisible, and everyone left. Me being... myself, knew that Sbot has the capability of detecting GM's. So I took one of my chars, went out of range of where he was, and came back and the bot told me his exact coords. By this point, I had all of my chars connected, and the message was complete: Image
^ I got one of him actually in my stall. This was after probably 15 minutes of me talking not even knowing if he was still around. Basically I was asking questions about why things weren't being done to fix various problems within the game, and saying how -- well you get the idea, I was basically ranting. He commented that he liked my stalls, and went into my stall on my main char per my request :P.

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^ He even said that he got my suggestions and would do something to fix the problems in the game. By this point, I was ecstatic since I wasn't sure if he would even respond to anything I was saying 8) After a few more minutes of me saying whatever, I started talking about some of my SRO experiences, about how I've seen the game change over the years, why I started botting, etc.

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^ He responded by basically calling me a hypocrite for what I was doing at that point (having *counts* ELEVEN OF MY OWN CHARS connected simultaneously.) You can think whatever you want about me at this point, I don't care. I'm not trying to be some sort of hero or anything, I just knew doing this would catch his attention and get at least some sort of message across.

One of the last things he said to me is in that last SS. He basically eluded to him not being able to do anything about stopping me from doing what I was doing! Saying I should just not bot or just delete the chars... Some of my hope died at that point. I'm still puzzled as to what JM is doing with this new GM team. If they are legitimately trying to make the game better by fixing a few problems like botting/multiclienting, GOOD! ID LOVE TO SEE THAT! Honestly. The game would be more fun that way, even if I have to start from scratch with a new char. But his statement made it seem like they aren't going to do anything. Why would he leave the decision whether to bot or not up to me? It makes no sense.

After that, I blatantly said that he should ban all of my characters, but got no response.

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Not sure why I thought it was worth this account to post this, but here it is. I'd love to respond to anyone's comments on the events, but I'm afraid I wont be afforded that opportunity. Actually... note the name of my main account in the pictures. Google it. ;) My first account on here was banned unjustly, I believe. Actually, this is why I was banned:ImageBot support they said.

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:45 am 
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So I took one of my chars, went out of range of where he was, and came back and the bot told me his exact coords.


So you are using bot?!

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
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Damn Rivaer lied to me... He told me he was assigned to tibet and will be active on our server >.<

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:56 am 
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InB4Ban ?
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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 9:59 am 
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TheKnight wrote:
asdf wrote:
So I took one of my chars, went out of range of where he was, and came back and the bot told me his exact coords.


So you are using bot?!


Oh **** you, stop it with the witch hunt. I can't even begin to express how many of you butthurt kids on here use a bot, loader, have had a bot powerlevel, bought gold, the works.

Fact is, he had a fascinating conversation with a GM, admitted he bots TO the GM, and guess what? THE GM OF THIS GAME, THE ONE WHICH UPHOLDS (lol...) A RULE OF NO BOTTING... SIMPLY IGNORED HIS ADMISSION AND DIDNT EVEN FILL A REQUEST TO BAN HIS CHARS AND DID NOTHING.

Are you serious? Do you even see the epic irony to this? The GM, of the game, won't even ban his botting character...

Bah.

You people just confuse me. It's quite a day when a forum takes over the moral obligation of a game which can't even ban a bot user or cheater for admission to a GM.

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
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SnowShael wrote:
TheKnight wrote:
asdf wrote:
So I took one of my chars, went out of range of where he was, and came back and the bot told me his exact coords.


So you are using bot?!


Oh **** you, stop it with the witch hunt. I can't even begin to express how many of you butthurt kids on here use a bot, loader, have had a bot powerlevel, bought gold, the works.

Fact is, he had a fascinating conversation with a GM, admitted he bots TO the GM, and guess what? THE GM OF THIS GAME, THE ONE WHICH UPHOLDS (lol...) A RULE OF NO BOTTING... SIMPLY IGNORED HIS ADMISSION AND DIDNT EVEN FILL A REQUEST TO BAN HIS CHARS AND DID NOTHING.

Are you serious? Do you even see the epic irony to this? The GM, of the game, won't even ban his botting character...

Bah.

You people just confuse me. It's quite a day when a forum takes over the moral obligation of a game which can't even ban a bot user or cheater for admission to a GM.

The reason I use these forums is because they don't allow botting, WHAT IS SO COOL IN BOTTING?!

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
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Nothing, tell me what is so cool on crucifying players for something that the GM's of the game can't even take care of?

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
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SnowShael wrote:
TheKnight wrote:
asdf wrote:
So I took one of my chars, went out of range of where he was, and came back and the bot told me his exact coords.


So you are using bot?!


Oh **** you, stop it with the witch hunt. I can't even begin to express how many of you butthurt kids on here use a bot, loader, have had a bot powerlevel, bought gold, the works.

Fact is, he had a fascinating conversation with a GM, admitted he bots TO the GM, and guess what? THE GM OF THIS GAME, THE ONE WHICH UPHOLDS (lol...) A RULE OF NO BOTTING... SIMPLY IGNORED HIS ADMISSION AND DIDNT EVEN FILL A REQUEST TO BAN HIS CHARS AND DID NOTHING.

Are you serious? Do you even see the epic irony to this? The GM, of the game, won't even ban his botting character...

Bah.

You people just confuse me. It's quite a day when a forum takes over the moral obligation of a game which can't even ban a bot user or cheater for admission to a GM.


Post of the week for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 10:29 am 
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if he gets banned, you are ****
lol
nice conversation, lets hope he is not kidding hahah

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:21 am 
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Who even cares about bots anymore.
Play the game as you like.

It was a nice post. Period!

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:39 am 
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is it really worth pointing out that hes using a bout. he said so himself. if you care so much just hit the report button and be done with it. don't go and try to enlarge your e-penis by arguing over how bad he is for using a bot


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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:55 am 
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You realise you are complaining about yourself right ? i'm guessing those chars are your goldbots and you bot yourself acording to you ? so while the hell are you complaining ? beter yet how dare you even complain ? your kind of poeple make this game worse everyday .
and on the matter being legit everybody who seeks compliments from other poeple about being legits are fools. The reason you should be legit is for yourself and you should be happy about how you see your char grow and how you did it yourself you shouldn't need anybody else to tell that.

And as for Joymax and there GM's they haven't done anything in a while and i don't expect them to do anything untill silkroad is on there dying bed

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
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I think the GM realises that there is no way you're going to get passed 8D without a bot, or with no life.

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:39 pm 
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You realise you are complaining about yourself right ? i'm guessing those chars are your goldbots and you bot yourself acording to you ? so while the hell are you complaining ? beter yet how dare you even complain ? your kind of poeple make this game worse everyday .
and on the matter being legit everybody who seeks compliments from other poeple about being legits are fools. The reason you should be legit is for yourself and you should be happy about how you see your char grow and how you did it yourself you shouldn't need anybody else to tell that.

And as for Joymax and there GM's they haven't done anything in a while and i don't expect them to do anything untill silkroad is on there dying bed


oh yeah they will soo clearly fix the game then... :roll:

as for op seeing as to how he has been here 3 yrs, made only 46 posts, and i dot even know/care about whether he gets banned or not is meaningless imo.

Also most ppl gave up hope for Isro's resurrection and rehabilitation years ago, care to take a guess why?

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 Post subject: Re: Lengthy Conversation with [GM] Rivaer
PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2010 12:48 pm 
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Banned for bot admission. God I hate long winded people. Next time, make a tl;dr version where you just state you are botting. Saves me time.

On a side note, username Ayoki was never - permanently - banned.
Well now it is, of course, along with your new account.

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