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 Post subject: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:01 pm 
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how much SP would a wiz/cleric require to be a good taxi farmer

i would like to be able to farm at higher lvls (lvl50 mob).

also what skills are vital for cleric, i know res for one lol.


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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:06 pm 
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before i try to answer u, can u let me know whats the point on farming a char at mobs 50? that looks srsly senseless at me :?

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:17 pm 
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i meant farm a lvl 38 char at lvl 50 mobs

as in, "i realized too late that ongs are the best for farming, so my last chance is to farm at lvl 50 mobs"


edit: oh oops, sorry i posted in GD :/


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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:01 pm 
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Can someone explain to me about Ongs and lv 50 mobs? i think i need to know what's going on before i screw up and miss my chance on farming (im already lv 31. this is getting serious) @_@

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:25 pm 
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the idea is easy, the higher the mobs the harder the farming gets to be, if using a nuker to farm your 2nd char. because the SP gain is the same, but its harder to achieve the kill rate at higher lvl mobs unless you own a really strong wiz char.

so if youre like me and are at lvl 40ish, you need to farm at 11 lvls difference mobs (atleast) to get the best out of it, because at later stages it will be hard to farm and fast kill. also while u farming your low lvl, you can offer taxi for money, and ongs is by far the most popular taxi.


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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:38 pm 
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oh no >.< hmm what level can a str bower start farming at ong? maybe i shld delevel...

one more question (sry this is going way severely off topic), if i delevel will the stat points i added to str stay? or it disappears wif the deleveling? :X thanks !!

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:40 pm 
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larrylhm wrote:
oh no >.< hmm what level can a str bower start farming at ong? maybe i shld delevel...

one more question (sry this is going way severely off topic), if i delevel will the stat points i added to str stay? or it disappears wif the deleveling? :X thanks !!


no dude we are talking about POWERFARMING with a powerleveler, if ure gonna farm with ur own char go high then start to farm in taklamakan or so.

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Fri Jan 01, 2010 9:10 pm 
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OHHHH ok sorry i misunderstood :X

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
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just lvled up and grind >.> how fun is it to set there and do nothing with you character...

people who sp farm through pfarms just rely on bots for plvl anyways and they say they are "legit" because they didnt bot... sure they did, they used a bot to plvl/pfarm, even if the bot wasnt controlling the char, the char lvled as a result of a bot hence its still a botted char...

you dont even have to worry about sp if you play at your own pace :S how much sp do you need per level, not 2m... just level with a small gap and you'll be fine and figure out if you like the game or not, 5 gap, you lvl about 50% slower than a 0 gap... if it takes someone a year to cap on 0 gap after spending months farming it or spending a year and a half to cap with 5 gap and still be farmed by the end, its all the same time spent, but the sp farmer never saw their char or used it while it was farming so they dont enjoy game


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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 2:48 am 
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@larrylhm
To get your char Fully Farmed (FF), u basically need atleast 2million SPs.
The fastest way to farm is at Ongs.
Y Ongs? Because it has good spawn rate. Fast killing by pwrlvler means they need more mobs and Ongs gives that.
What do you need to Farm at Ongs?
1) A Pwrlvler, I recommend a LvL 64 Wizz.
2) Your Noob.
I always start my pwrlvling at 23. But it really depends on how efficient you are.
If you can farm 30k in 3 hours, u start at 25 everytime and end at 30.
If you are good enough to get 50k, you start at 23.
Higher lvl Bard does do a better job at killing BUT, lvl average of pt is too high for you to get good exp.
Now... Y does SP gain varies so much? 30k and 50k in 3 hours?
Thats your party lvl average. You get double exp/sp gain when your party lvl average is below the mob.

Let say you hav a lvl 64 wiz, your char will b lvling from 25~32. Ongs is 36/37.
You will need 2 lvl 1 noobs in your party. Y 2? because 1 will give you good exp for not long enough. Once they hit lvl 7, they lvl really fast even when they are gapping. And once lvl average gets above mobs lvl. Exp/Sp gain decrease.

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 3:10 am 
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wow...thats a lot of theory and studies on a game haha. Personally im not particularly fond of pleveling cos its kinda stupid watching your char riding on a horse while some random bot kill stuff for you. Altho i heard the SP gain is very impressive i still dun like the idea.

Im currently level 32 going to start 9 gapping :) hopefully i dun get bored before i even get to 9 gap xDD

and my question has thrown the thread way off topic. sorry!

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 4:12 am 
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larrylhm wrote:
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Thats good spirit, anyways.
I've done what u wanted to do b4 too, and the exact same build too.
Ok, 9 gap farming for lvl 32 with 9 gap.
build is Bow.
Now this is what i did LOOONG time ago~
Anyways...
Start at lvl 32, get a SoM or SoSUN 32 Bow.
Farm in the Ravine area. Since theres less gold bots there.
Kill Earth Taoist and Earth Magician, there are Earth Ghosts there too, but I kill them anyways.
With Sun Bow, u basically 1 hit them.
U should get about 800~1k SPs per hour with Gold Ticket and ofc pick pet.
Picking up items takes alot of time. So remember to get a pet.
Remember to pimp out all your gears with Dura, Int and Str.

As for delvling, just keep all gears in pet or storage if you don't hav a pet.
Run out of dw n die till u're 32 0%.

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:57 am 
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Its next to impossible to get a SOM or Sun low level item without bleeding it out since nearly all bots there are using those items and they dont erally respond when i ask to buy it...

i think i phrased it wrongly

im lv 32 with 0 gap going for 9 gap. its a major oversight on my part to have 0 gap now cos i didn't realise about ongs and stuff like that...

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:28 am 
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can you guys stay on topic? many replies but non answered the SP requirements of wiz/bard vs wiz/cleric

ill have you know, taxi with your plvl DOES NOT mean your botting, actually theres more player interaction than grinding alone (atleast with chinese char). first of all, you need to have a big pt to make the double xp, this means you get alot of eager to get farmed players, not only they join your pt, you might enjoy their convos while you grind. Also, you make new friends in the process with the possibility of recruiting, because they see you have a high lvl char.

I've done many taxis and it was far more better and active than grinding alone, taxis are also a way to introduce yourself to other players and establish your name.

also, at higher lvls every lvl is going to look like a freakin farm fest, so imagine actually doing a 5gapper in a lvl that already looks like a farm phase. its like the ya dawg yo meme
"yo dawg, i heard you like farming, so i put a 9 gap in your lvl 90, so you can farm while farming" ...............well that didnt come out too well but you get the point :P

so were at what, high lvls farming (5 months atleast?) vs low lvls fully farmed (2-3 months), guess where you'll get bored more ?

now back on topic plz


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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
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I would answer, but your question is not specific enough... :S

@larrylhm
I see... if you are not 32 9 gapped, the next best farming spot would b the DW cave at lvl 64 with SoM or Sun. Thing is... Moon or Sun that level will cost you alot... And odds are that you will b ksed by high lvl pwrlvling there.
Lvl for lvl 42 or 52, theres really close to none bot free spot with mobs that you can 1 hit for you to farm on.

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 Post subject: Re: SP amount required for wiz/cleric *light farm* edition
PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:53 am 
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@sn1kzZe
You want to make a character with the sole purpose of being able to powerfarm other characters at lvl 50 mobs? That seems like a rather unusual goal to me... :? But anywayz, about the Cleric skills, in my oppinion, besides the ress you will need also Holy Recovery Division, Holy Spell, Body Deity, Soul Deity. As for the Wizard skills, I don't think you will need the Lightning Mentalist line especially for powerfarming. I did take the time to make a calculation, using this site's SP calculator and it turned out that for a lvl 100 char you would need a little over 1 million SP (only for the most essential skills for powerfarming).

PS: Purposefully getting power level from botters is the same as botting. Don't even pretend to be legit if you do it.

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