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 Post subject: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:04 pm 
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Soo I thought I'd be smart and murder so I can stay at my lvl for a longer time since I haven't bought anything new yet. Unfortunately, I didn't know that the number under the skull that says murder level has to reach 0. I also didn't realize that 1 death only lost me 200 murder points. So instead of going from lvl 74 with 90% exp, i'm down to lvl 71 with 50% exp. Luckily my friends asked me how far i planned on delvling. Now here's some more questions since I've never mass-murdered before:

1) What is the best way to lose the LEAST amount of exp and sp.
2) What is the best way to lose the MOST amount of exp and sp.
3) Any specific % or amount for 1 and 2? Like how much sp exp u lose with x method and how many murder points does it get rid of.
4) When murdering, is there a max you can reach before you can no longer murder and MUST get rid of ALL the exp and sp points thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:17 pm 
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Soo I thought I'd be smart and murder so I can stay at my lvl for a longer time since I haven't bought anything new yet. Unfortunately, I didn't know that the number under the skull that says murder level has to reach 0. I also didn't realize that 1 death only lost me 200 murder points. So instead of going from lvl 74 with 90% exp, i'm down to lvl 71 with 50% exp. Luckily my friends asked me how far i planned on delvling. Now here's some more questions since I've never mass-murdered before:

1) What is the best way to lose the LEAST amount of exp and sp.
Kill by a player
2) What is the best way to lose the MOST amount of exp and sp.
Kill by a mob
In the end, there is NO least/most...end result will be the same
3) Any specific % or amount for 1 and 2? Like how much sp exp u lose with x method and how many murder points does it get rid of.
% lost is base on lvl. if a mob kills u, u will loose 600 murder points, if a player kills u, u will loose 200 points, u will loose the same amount of SP regardless when is all over, die 3x by a player=dying 1 time by a mob=same amount of SP lost
4) When murdering, is there a max you can reach before you can no longer murder and MUST get rid of ALL the exp and sp points thing.


forgot what the limit was, but daily pk is 0/15, murdering a noob will automatically bring ur pk 15/15, need to die to drop it.

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:25 pm 
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1) 2% is always the least
2) murder, and die by losing hp over time
3) murder and killed by a mob 2% EXP, -100 murder point
murder and killed by a player 2% EXP, -200 murder point
murder and die over time 4% EXP, -400 murder point
4) next to the skull, there is ?/15, when it's 15/15 you can't murder anymore. Each kill add 1/15, sometime more depends of the level of the victim. If kill too much ppl in a day, murder point is increased exponentially. First level is 1000 pt murder, after a while killing last lvl could reach 200K pt

ps: maybe im wrong at the killed by mob

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:32 pm 
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NuclearSilo wrote:
1) 2% is always the least
2) murder, and die by losing hp over time
3) murder and killed by a mob 2% EXP, -100 murder point
murder and killed by a player 2% EXP, -200 murder point
murder and die over time 4% EXP, -400 murder point
4) next to the skull, there is ?/15, when it's 15/15 you can't murder anymore. Each kill add 1/15, sometime more depends of the level of the victim. If kill too much ppl in a day, murder point is increased exponentially. First level is 1000 pt murder, after a while killing last lvl could reach 200K pt

ps: maybe im wrong at the killed by mob


IIRC the death by mob and towndeath are both 600 points and 60 sp. Killed by a player is 200 points and 20 sp.

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:35 pm 
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Hmm i know it's not always 2% though. My friend told me it decreases exponentially. Right now i'm still 74 and losing .37% each time when my friend kills me.

Hmm so is the exp from dying in town exactly 3 times more than by player?

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 11:36 pm 
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Goseki wrote:
Hmm i know it's not always 2% though. My friend told me it decreases exponentially. Right now i'm still 74 and losing .37% each time when my friend kills me.

Hmm so is the exp from dying in town exactly 3 times more than by player?


I think so..Long time ago that I got rid of murder by dying in town. And I loose about 1% from 1200 points at 98

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:01 am 
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I also just noticed. Dying in town is still - 200 murder points, it just takes a lot more exp when u die.

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 12:23 am 
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if i remember well, the exp lost is equivalent to the exp given by 200 mob same lvl. (from lvl 60)

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 1:10 am 
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I have a question as well...
How often does one murder?


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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 2:09 am 
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Press H ingame and READ THE GUIDE!

pk(player killing) system

to kill another player is called pk(playerkilling).
this is not the same with killing another player in the free match or during acting a job. such a killing is not pk.

the application of pk

- pk is available since level 20. therefore, under level 20 players can't kill or be killed.
- can't attack your party members.
- can do pk every where except the safe zone(village).

how to to pk

you can attack another pary by force if you attack with alt key holded.

pk state

- the state in which you get no penalty is the state of an ordinary person.
- if you attack an ordinary person by force, then you will be an offender and get a penalty. the state of an offender doesn't be canceled until the combat continues.
- if you kill an ordinary person, you gain the point of a murderer and be in the state of a murderer and then get penalties.
* attacking a pet, a summoning animal, or a transport which the player has is the same thing with attacking the player directly.
* you can check the state through the colour of id. the ordinary person has the white name. the offender has the purple name. the murderer has the red name.

the point of a murderer

you gain the point of a murderer when you kill an ordinary person.
if the accumulated point is more than 1, it's in the state of a murderer and penalties will be given.
the higher the pk penalty level, the more ponits of a murderer you gain.
the pk penalty level increases by 1 per each pk and the maximum level is 15.

the penalty

- an ordinary person can kill a murderer without being given any penalty.
- can't open a street stall.
- can't use a scroll of return / 역귀환서 / gate of dimension / transport and so on.
- loses sp 60 and experience thrice than an ordinary person does when killed by a monster.
- loses sp 20 and experience as much as an ordinary person does when killed by pk (except the free match).
- may drop equipment items in the inventory (except weapons) at the moment of death (except the free match) by the amount of points of a murderer and 100% sure to drop them when a certain amount of points are accumulated.
- can't do pk by force if the points are over 200,000.
- 1/2 of experience is applied when resurrected. (fore example, 100% 부활주문서 사용시, 1/2인 50%만 적용)
- gets 5% damage per 4 seconds in a village.
- the auto recovery function doesn't work in a village.

the ordinary penalty

an ordinary person also gets a penalty as below.
- loses experience by 2% when killed by a monster. (the percentage differs by the level.)
- loses a certain amount of experience when killed through pk (except the free match).
- drops randomly one of items in the inventory at the moment of death (except the free match) with a probability of 5%.

the offender penalty

the offender gets the ordinary penalty and also the additional penalties as below.
- an ordinary person gets no penalty even though he or she kills an offender.

the number of available pk in a day.

pk can't be done more than 15 in a day.
the number can be more than that if the level of pk target is lower.

how to lower the murderer points.

- as you hunt monsters, the murderer point decreases. (the heigher level monsters you hunt, the more it decreases.)
- lose 600 point when you are killed by a monster
- the point decreases by 200 when killed through pk (except the free match) but it doesn't deacreae when killed through pvp

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2009 10:22 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:07 am 
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the number of available pk in a day.

pk can't be done more than 15 in a day.
the number can be more than that if the level of pk target is lower.



Actually, you can murder more that 15, if they attack you first. Trick is to get people to attack you when you have 15/15 and then murder them ^_^ At least I have done that before.

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 3:58 pm 
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about what they said up top

you lose same amount of exp by mob or player...
you lose 600 points to mob and 200 points to player
(you also lose more exp to mobs when you die than when you die to player)
this makes it seem like you lose less when you die to players, but to lose 600 murder points, you only need to die once to monster, you have to die 3 times to a player to lose same number of murder points, so you end up losing same exp/sp but waste more time dying to players since you have to run back to them after ress


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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 4:42 pm 
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everytime you die, your pk is decreased by 1/15

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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 5:18 pm 
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you still have the point system forgot what it was called, havent murdered for a while lol
but i remember there being points next to the 1/15 that you have to lose
like murder 1/15 is 1200 points, 2/15 is more, to get rid of murder status you have to get rid of all the points
the 1/15 is the number of murder times you have to kill someone,


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 Post subject: Re: Someone should make a good explanation of murder.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:49 pm 
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kaperucito wrote:
Press H ingame and READ THE GUIDE!

OMG you telling me someone else also read the ingame guide :O [/sarcasm] ^^ very nice info though

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