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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:17 pm 
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Just found this on another cSRO forum while we were talking about iSRO and the bots.
And dont be scared to read the whole text :D
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Post by llllllll on Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:42 am
I sorta agree w/ night and sorta don't.

I believe that the players are the reason for why isro is the way it is.
The players made gold bots.
The players buy gold from gold bots.
The gold bots flood the servers preventing players from entering.

In the end it is the players fault.

A bot isn't the reason. You can have as many bots as you want and it wont flood the game. What floods the game is power and money. If a gold selling company enters csro then I would say they are screwed. But seeing as they sell their own bot at 70+ and have active GM's the chances of csro turning into isro is very slim. The server crowding is due to the lack of upgrading servers and maxing the capacity. Not the bots or the stall chars.



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Another reason to why isro is the way it is, is because of the economy.

I will explain this briefly. When isro first came out it had a balance system like in csro you were able to sell item mall in stalls. For a large community there has to be some way to make gold to purchase items. However, there came a person who decided he was going to mess around and start chargeback "CCF" and con Joymax out of money to enhance his items and make gold. Joymax punished all of us. They took out the item mall from being sold in stalls. Due to that happening nobody was able to make money easily starting inflations and an economy crisis. Once Joymax took that out of the system the game lost its balances. Until someone came up w/ the idea of creating gold bots.
Once they figured out how to make a multi and bot then farming gold they began to sell the gold. After a solid 3 years of gold farming we have whats now competition w/ other gold companies. So more and more their business expands and more greedy players wanting to be the best buy their gold. Hence why I said Power and Money.

In order for isro to change 2 things need to happen:
1. Bring back item mall in stalls which will never ever happen in a million years as so stated my MD.

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2. Stop buying gold. Which will never happen because their are to many greedy players who are addicted to this game.


I assure you that the chances this will happen to csro is very unlikely.
Isro have 3500 slots I am going to say csro maybe has around 1500 slots.
A huge difference perhaps a talk w/ a gm about upgrading their servers would do more good.


what do you think about this 2 things that need to happen?
I'm sure something is true about it, in cSRO you can sell item mall things, and the best thing is, I've never seen a goldbot & the prices don't go higher than 500mill or something.
The problem aint player bots, but goldbots.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:21 pm 
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there are more than one gold selling company?


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:24 pm 
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cSRO sells its own bot????

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The server crowding is due to the lack of upgrading servers and maxing the capacity. Not the bots or the stall chars.


Stopped reading there. Upgrading the server will just leave less room to grind and more room for bots. What we need is an effective way to stop gold bots and ultimately LOWER the cap.

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 Post subject: Re: server traffic.
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yes it is the players fault, everyone wants to be the strongest and too many people buy gold to do it. I myself like to be one of the strongest and am, but I have never and never will buy gold, too bad JM cant step up their security and start IP blocking gold bots, sooner or later they will get tired of switching IP's and server traffic should decrease.

Unfortunitly ISRO is dying more and more every day, the new characters I see in game are mainly lvl 90's making new characters, it all comes down to greed, too bad much a great game goes down the toilet

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:55 pm 
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Azilius wrote:
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The server crowding is due to the lack of upgrading servers and maxing the capacity. Not the bots or the stall chars.


Stopped reading there. Upgrading the server will just leave less room to grind and more room for bots. What we need is an effective way to stop gold bots and ultimately LOWER the cap.

you dont understand it, at the last bit of text he said cSRO has only a 1500 server, while iSRO has a 3500 server.

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cSRO sells its own bot????


No its not their own bot, there is only one bot and you need to pay for it.
If you have another bot you get banned & if you use it under lv70 they will block your account.

And this bot is only good for powerleveling purposes, it really sucks for grinding from what I've heard.

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I find it more interesting that the chinese branch of Joymax allow botting over a certain lvl, maybe if the international version allowed that too then it would solve some of the problems we have today, namely any idiot with a credit card being able to cap and still not know that pressing the V button makes people disappear.

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 Post subject: Re: server traffic.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:13 pm 
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JKMB wrote:
I find it more interesting that the chinese branch of Joymax allow botting over a certain lvl, maybe if the international version allowed that too then it would solve some of the problems we have today, namely any idiot with a credit card being able to cap and still not know that pressing the V button makes people disappear.

Not really.
In CSRO(I think in iSRO too) we have lots of powerleveling going on, also free powerlvl parties from 1~25 or something(cant remember correctly).

After 20 or something you need to pay, this is when most (international) players get into trouble.
Then they have 3 options;
-buying silk & selling trough stall network(not an easy option for international players like me)
-buying gold (not an option.)
-trading & grinding.

The first option is used by some chinese people, but the last option is used pretty much(Especially trading). Thats what keeps cSRO somewhat alive..
So you need to work to get to lv70, and thats what counts. After lv70 I don't really care, because most of the people bot :D

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if you raise the cap of the server then its just more room for goldbots. it will do nothing but make grinding harder.

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 Post subject: Re: server traffic.
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C1ockwork wrote:
if you raise the cap of the server then its just more room for goldbots. it will do nothing but make grinding harder.

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 Post subject: Re: server traffic.
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BloodyBlade wrote:
JKMB wrote:
I find it more interesting that the chinese branch of Joymax allow botting over a certain lvl, maybe if the international version allowed that too then it would solve some of the problems we have today, namely any idiot with a credit card being able to cap and still not know that pressing the V button makes people disappear.

Not really.
In CSRO(I think in iSRO too) we have lots of powerleveling going on, also free powerlvl parties from 1~25 or something(cant remember correctly).

After 20 or something you need to pay, this is when most (international) players get into trouble.
Then they have 3 options;
-buying silk & selling trough stall network(not an easy option for international players like me)
-buying gold (not an option.)
-trading & grinding.

The first option is used by some chinese people, but the last option is used pretty much(Especially trading). Thats what keeps cSRO somewhat alive..
So you need to work to get to lv70, and thats what counts. After lv70 I don't really care, because most of the people bot :D

That is my point exactly, on isro you can just log on to one of the thousands of gold buying sites, wait at jangan stable for 10mins and then walk away several hundred mil richer, also on csro as you said, there is a greater sense of community that we dont have on isro, many players on isro would rather sell their own mother then actually help a person who was new to the game, and as you said, there is a lot of job activity which encourages activity. :)
Tl;Dr: iSro is farked because the players choose to **** it up and Joymax let them do it.

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 Post subject: Re: server traffic.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 10:42 pm 
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Or may be there is less chinese people playing this game than american,turks,germans,...etc combined together :P .

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 Post subject: Re: server traffic.
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Ash wrote:
Or may be there is less chinese people playing this game than american,turks,germans,...etc combined together :P .

You have a point there.

But I still keep to my opinion that its the players own fault, they wanted more & more money.

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I like that fact that at the end he said he would talk to a gm 'bout the server capactiy, lol in isro the gms dont even seem to speak the same language...


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Ash wrote:
Or may be there is less chinese people playing this game than american,turks,germans,...etc combined together :P .

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