Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:47 pm
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ain't that his g4y brother who's trying to take his place now. talking 'bout abusing your own brother's death.
also I find it funny how all these bodybuilders act tough about their muscles and virility, but turn gay for someone like zyzz. I got alot of friends who are into fitness and such and they keep showing me videos of this zyzz and honestly i think it's gay. everytime I have a conversation about fitness and such, even with strangers, it ends up about zyzz. you all might as well go sck his d1ck.
the guy died at the age of 22! keep that in mind next time you dream about his d1ck.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 pm
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Interesting fact: 'Luctor et Emergo' (I struggle and emerge) is the motto of a Dutch province called Zeeland. Their continuous battle with the sea has led to the adoption of said motto! Perhaps this would make for another splendid tattoo? Luctor et Emergo, bro.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:42 pm
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@Kakarot He already said his purpose was to continue what his brother started and to keep his memory alive as long as possible, thats's wrong? oh yeah he's making money out of it, well what's the problem? zyzz had a protein brand, and guy gotta get somehting for a living nah? if it allow him to keep doing what he want and to get visibility for his name and his brother name why is it bad? is that guy doing something wrong to anyone? is he hurting you in any ways? so why would you get angry and talk shit about him?
There's my second question, do you even lift? seriously, you seem to have the idea that every lifter should be hardcunt badass tryhard that eat raw meat grow beard and fight with bears. People lift cause they enjoy it, it make them feel good about what they are, zyzz felt the same he didnt care about looking all cool and tough, he was into enjoying life and himself, didnt give a **** about what other people could say about him because he knew deep down in his eartht hat he was the best.
this is why people love him, this guy changed alot of people, in their lifestyle and in the way they act.
it is easier to elevate yourself above others than to keep trying to get them down, this is what zyzz did, and this why he got more famous than most of the people like you.
@woutr that's interesting, but im not a real fan of words tatoo :s being french i wouldnt get a english tatoo this would look dumb imo and i find french tatoo too cheezy. I though about latin lagnuage tatoo, since nobody speak it and it got this mighty aura around it.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:55 pm
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Listened for 5 seconds, he's a moron. You holding him as a beacon of anything is yeah ...
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:03 pm
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I am not caught up in my own bullshit.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:12 pm
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I don't dislike Zyzz, I just think he's an idiot for using so much drugs and steroids that he died by the age of 22. But, I've been guilty of using some things too, so I don't really mind that. The thing I hate is people crawling up his ass. Douchebags who have been lifting for 6 months coming to me and starting to talk about Zyzz like he is their biological father. Last saturday I was walking in a club when some guy came up to me and asked me if I was lifting and I told him yeah. So we started talking about it and he started about Zyzz. He started showing me all kinds of pictures and quotes and whatnot and it was the gayest thing that happened to me that night.
I find it a bad thing that people see him as an Idol. And to behonest, only douchebags who don't have selfconfidence can see him as a rolemodel. If you had some selfconfidence, you would realise that nothing he does is special. Just lifting, partying and not giving a fck. Been there, done that. But I guess if you've never done that it feels like Zyzz is opening a new world to you like some prophet haha.
Anyways, good luck 'keeping him in memory'. LOOOOOL.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:15 pm
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Love wrote:
I am not caught up in my own bullshit.
this is not an explanation, so not explain me why you call this bullshit?
you don't believe in what he said?
I missed the part where he was trying to convince people of something, could you point it out for me please sir?
maybe you think he's lying when he say that lifting weight helped him getting more confident and happy? maybe lifting weight wont make you grow stronger and bigger, maybe it'll make you sad, yeah no one should do this you're probably right brah.
brb canceling my gym membership and throwing my supplements in the toilet, what have I been doing this whole time? this is clearly not the way life was suppose to be lived.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:22 pm
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heroo wrote:
I don't dislike Zyzz, I just think he's an idiot for using so much drugs and steroids that he died by the age of 22. But, I've been guilty of using some things too, so I don't really mind that. The thing I hate is people crawling up his ass. Douchebags who have been lifting for 6 months coming to me and starting to talk about Zyzz like he is their biological father. Last saturday I was walking in a club when some guy came up to me and asked me if I was lifting and I told him yeah. So we started talking about it and he started about Zyzz. He started showing me all kinds of pictures and quotes and whatnot and it was the gayest thing that happened to me that night.
I find it a bad thing that people see him as an Idol. And to behonest, only douchebags who don't have selfconfidence can see him as a rolemodel. If you had some selfconfidence, you would realise that nothing he does is special. Just lifting, partying and not giving a fck. Been there, done that. But I guess if you've never done that it feels like Zyzz is opening a new world to you like some prophet haha.
Anyways, good luck 'keeping him in memory'. LOOOOOL.
he died from a heart defect, he had a undiagnosed congenital heart condition since birth, guy shouldnt have been lifting weight at all, this is what killed him, not roids and recreatives drugs.
and this guy was a creep, you would have felt the same on any other subject lol.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:28 pm
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heart defect? yeah, that's what everyone is telling me haha. But guess what? steroids make all your muscles grow bigger, ALL of them. and your heart is a muscle too. so he died because of using too much steroids and his heart got too big. i bet he would have lived with the same heart defect is he hadn't used steroids. and i'm pretty sure he didn't only use steroids but also growth hormones. and growth hormones are like the steroids of steroids.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:42 pm
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Time for me to juice up on roids.....gotta get my gay on...
OK on a serous note: Who cares!!.. I look at this zyzz guy story for about 2 minutes and I had nothing to say...because there was nothing tooooo say..it was that uninteresting....He's just another person in a long line of people who's trying to make a statement...The world is full of them...and you cant blaim them for that...but you can surely not care....He died young doing dumb shit...whats new there...who's next in line to jump off the cliff!..step up please.... I wouldn't get too rattled by it...
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:03 pm
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I Am Vegeta wrote:
I though about latin lagnuage tatoo, since nobody speak it and it got this mighty aura around it.
That's why I find latin pointless as a language. It may be used as a scientific language(mostly biology, medicine and chemistry and it would take some time to rename everything to English and other languages, but English uses a lot of unedited latin expressions and that's stupid imo.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:28 pm
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not true. I studied latin for 5 years. you wouldn't believe how much it helped me. I can somewhat understand 50% of all european languages thanks to latin, even though I never studied those languages. latin is the mother of all languages and alot of words in many current languages are derived from it.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:02 pm
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Here's my problem with it. He talking about living your dream and making the most out of life and I agree, everyone should be doing that. Everyone in this world should chase their dreams and work towards their goals. But he uses his own personal dream, of being ripped and lifting and being sick, as a blanket for everyone else. A lot of people preach lifting like it's the cure to all your teenage melodrama but it's not. Lifting, like anything else, is a dream that people can focus on. When someone goes from having nothing to be proud of in life to putting their heart and soul into an ideal, of course they will see it in a positive light. Lifting doesn't cause your life to become better, having something to believe in does.
Chase the dream, it's as simple as that. What dream should you chase? Don't chase my dream, or Zyzz's, or anyone else's. Chase what you believe will make you happiest and don't let anyone else tell you that your dream is worthless. At the end of the day the people who shut down and criticise others are truly the most insecure inside.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:11 pm
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I Am Vegeta wrote:
seriously, you seem to have the idea that every lifter should be hardcunt badass tryhard
You seem to be trying your hardest to fit this stereotype given your recent posts.
I never understood why people who get into lifting hop on this guys dick. I refuse to even watch the video because I really couldn't give two shits about this guy.
Do steroids possibly make you gay?
Also, are you seriously saying steroids and recreational drugs had no effect on his already poor heart condition? You're funny.
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Here's my problem with it. He talking about living your dream and making the most out of life and I agree, everyone should be doing that. Everyone in this world should chase their dreams and work towards their goals. But he uses his own personal dream, of being ripped and lifting and being sick, as a blanket for everyone else. A lot of people preach lifting like it's the cure to all your teenage melodrama but it's not. Lifting, like anything else, is a dream that people can focus on. When someone goes from having nothing to be proud of in life to putting their heart and soul into an ideal, of course they will see it in a positive light. Lifting doesn't cause your life to become better, having something to believe in does.
Chase the dream, it's as simple as that. What dream should you chase? Don't chase my dream, or Zyzz's, or anyone else's. Chase what you believe will make you happiest and don't let anyone else tell you that your dream is worthless. At the end of the day the people who shut down and criticise others are truly the most insecure inside.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:30 pm
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Actual problem is that these are the most simple thoughts ever and he kinda expected us to welcome this guy as some sort of prophet.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:53 pm
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BuDo wrote:
Time for me to juice up on roids.....gotta get my gay on...
OK on a serous note: Who cares!!.. I look at this zyzz guy story for about 2 minutes and I had nothing to say...because there was nothing tooooo say..it was that uninteresting....He's just another person in a long line of people who's trying to make a statement...The world is full of them...and you cant blaim them for that...but you can surely not care....He died young doing dumb shit...whats new there...who's next in line to jump off the cliff!..step up please.... I wouldn't get too rattled by it...
+10 too that bud.
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:38 pm
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I Am Vegeta wrote:
@Kakarot
lmao
I lol'd too
But seriously, I see so many peoeple (not just on the internet) over glorfy zyzz, it's sickening. Zyzz was nothing but a skinny kid who wanted to change; so he started sticking needles up his bum. Vegeta is a prime specimen of the kind of people who glorify zyzz.
Modesty is non-existent with those who look up to zyzz.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:06 am
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.curve wrote:
I Am Vegeta wrote:
seriously, you seem to have the idea that every lifter should be hardcunt badass tryhard
You seem to be trying your hardest to fit this stereotype given your recent posts.
I never understood why people who get into lifting hop on this guys dick. I refuse to even watch the video because I really couldn't give two shits about this guy.
Do steroids possibly make you gay?
Also, are you seriously saying steroids and recreational drugs had no effect on his already poor heart condition? You're funny.
it's like if you were saying this guys blowed his head with a 44, but he was on coke wich cause brain damage so yeah coke probably helped damaging his brain.
@twillinger yeha i agree with this, but lifting actually do this 187362754 times better than anything else, you release dopamine and serotonin and endorphin every time you workout, those shit help you get happy and confident. Add the fact that you grow and see your body change, so you actually can see the result of your work wich is kinda pretty Farking awesome, then last you get the feedback from people around you, as you get in a better shape people notice it and compliment you about it.
Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 3:19 am
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you referring to me as kakarot made me think of Dragonball Z. I checked out some scenes and ended watching couple of episodes lol. ohh man, it is by far the best show ever. episode 213 ''The Dark Prince Returns'' and 214 ''Vegeta's Pride'' are one of the best episodes. fck you for being the most epic guy in DBZ
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:34 am
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Not the most epic but the most melodramatic... He whines too much about his abilities or lack of abilities when compared to stronger characters...He's an underdog that had to really struggle and I think that's why you guys find him appealing... Not the strongest (because he's not gifted like Goku) but he did keep the series interesting by going through all the changes he did....
Good to see Goku took him off his hell bent evil path and effect some changes on him or he'd be just another weakling left in dust by Goku or Gohan... Freeza after all did oust his ass and because Goku's gang is such a good bunch they brought him back...
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Post subject: Re: this is the purpose of life, to struggle and emerge
Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:17 am
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I Am Vegeta wrote:
@twillinger yeha i agree with this, but lifting actually do this 187362754 times better than anything else, you release dopamine and serotonin and endorphin every time you workout, those shit help you get happy and confident. Add the fact that you grow and see your body change, so you actually can see the result of your work wich is kinda pretty Farking awesome, then last you get the feedback from people around you, as you get in a better shape people notice it and compliment you about it.
Total conjecture. Your personal bias does not make this a fact. Your blanket ideals does not mean that it applies to everyone and does not ignore their personal circumstance. Some people aren't shallow and don't care for perfection in appearance. Others believe that being ripped is displeasing to the eye and would rather be thin than buff. Some people have physical disabilities that prevent them from 'lifting' and being 'sick'. Whilst working out can be a good method to find worth in life it is not more or less valuable than anything else. Learning an instrument, playing a new sport, working hard to improve your studies, chasing that childhood dream, advancing your career; all of these are positive things to try and accomplish in life. It's not what you choose to focus on in life that matters, it's taking that step and actually doing something that you can be proud of that is truly important.
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