20 States Petition to Secede From U.S

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

after Obama Reelection.

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It’s traditional for Americans to threaten to move to France or Canada when their candidate loses, but this year some disappointed voters are implementing a different plan.

In the wake of the Nov. 6 election, petitions seeking to secede from the union have been filed on behalf of 23 states on the White House website. Most of the petitions contain the same wording and ask to withdraw “peacefully” from the United States in order to form independent governments.

Critics describe the effort as a bit of an overreaction. “Anyone who wants their state to secede from the union is someone whose brain has already seceded from their body,” said John Andrews, director of the conservative Centennial Institute at Colorado Christian University.

Still, the White House may have to take the requests seriously. According to the website, any petition receiving 25,000 online “signatures” on the “We the People” page within 30 days of posting will receive a review by the appropriate executive department and a response from a White House staffer.

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What's your thoughts?

cbkilla · **Joined:** Feb 2010 **Posts:** 1124 **Location:**

Still waiting on the North American Union.

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

South will rise again! 'MERICA!

_Dutchy_ · **Posted:** Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:40 pm

shatterd union

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shattered_Union

just sayingggg

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Let the hillbillies leave

Tasdik · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 13206 **Location:** Life

TheDrop wrote:

Let the hillbillies leave

Because New York is full of hillbillies...

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Oh cool, shit is getting interesting. I would like to see some new countries.

.curve · **Posted:** Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:10 am

California isn't on that list. That's all that concerns me at the moment.

It's good to see the public joining together in a sense to get shit done.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Tasdik wrote:

TheDrop wrote:

Let the hillbillies leave

Because New York is full of hillbillies...

If you have been upstate where theres nothing, yes it is

link2113 · **Joined:** Dec 2007 **Posts:** 503 **Location:**

TheDrop wrote:

Let the fucks leave

corrected

inky · **Joined:** Nov 2006 **Posts:** 4025 **Location:**

Upstate NY = Jersey.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Why did tasdick get banned?

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

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Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

most deep south states take in more federal dollars than they give back in tax revenue. So them leaving the union would actually help improve the government's fiscal situation. It would also make it easier for obama to get things done since a bunch of republicans would have to leave the senate and the house.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Just an update..

Residents In All 50 States File Petitions To Secede From United States

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As you may have heard, residents in most of these United States have used the "We The People" online petition tool -- previously best known as the primary method that weed enthusiasts used to communicate with high-ranking members of the White House staff -- to file requests to secede from country in the wake of the presidential election, because apparently not everybody got what they wanted out of America's traditional participatory democracy.

"Didn't we try that once before?" asked South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. Indeed, yes, it was tried before, by South Carolina in December of 1860. Since that date, states opting for secession have a 100% failure rate in splitting from the Union, and that dismal record was amassed long before the United States had a fleet of aerial drone weapons that could be piloted by remote control.
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Rawr · **Posted:** Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:01 pm

Man, that's a lot of butthurt Romney fanbois...
And yes, there are plenty of hillbillies up north.

PureStr · **Joined:** Nov 2007 **Posts:** 1244 **Location:** GTA5

Bunch o' crybabies.

BuDo · **Joined:** Dec 2008 **Posts:** 4714 **Location:**

Sounds like a bunch of crap to me....Would be funny to see though...What was once the united states is now a cluster of neighboring nations...Separate flags and laws..etc...Families trying to figure what nation they should become a part of.....The Walmart in one state is now in another country...lol..

Fiction · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:27 am

I'm pretty sure these secession petitions are about getting state powers back from the central government, not a bunch of butthurt hillbillies.. Also this isn't an uncommon event. Yeah lets go back over into the marijuana legalization thread and cheer on Colorado and Washington, then talk shit about people wanting the power back in the state's hands, in this thread. :roll:

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

PureStr wrote:

Bunch o' crybabies.

Rawr wrote:

Man, that's a lot of butthurt Romney fanbois...
And yes, there are plenty of hillbillies up north.

pretty much. Also, the US government made it illegal for states to secede from the union after the end of the civil war. So any discussion about it ends right there because its legally impossible.

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Jstar1 wrote:

Also, the US government made it illegal for states to secede from the union after the end of the civil war.
So any discussion about it ends right there because its legally impossible.

There's almost always a way to get around an obstacle. Just saying

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Jstar1 wrote:

pretty much. Also, the US government made it illegal for states to secede from the union after the end of the civil war. So any discussion about it ends right there because its legally impossible.

That doesn't matter. It's as silly as making revolutions illegal because that doesn't mean they won't happen.

Fiction · **Posted:** Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:01 pm

Jstar1 wrote:

PureStr wrote:

Bunch o' crybabies.

Rawr wrote:

Man, that's a lot of butthurt Romney fanbois...
And yes, there are plenty of hillbillies up north.

pretty much. Also, the US government made it illegal for states to secede from the union after the end of the civil war. So any discussion about it ends right there because its legally impossible.

You really don't know much about American law do you?

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

Sanktum wrote:

Jstar1 wrote:

pretty much. Also, the US government made it illegal for states to secede from the union after the end of the civil war. So any discussion about it ends right there because its legally impossible.

That doesn't matter. It's as silly as making revolutions illegal because that doesn't mean they won't happen.

Well yeah. I don't mean that it wouldn't ever happen just because there is a law that says you can't. But that suggests the states would try force secession on their own without some kind of process between them and the federal government and so the idea that the president would send in federal troops to prevent secession and end up fighting a state national guard is a story thats so wild and out of this world it would probably never happen.

Anyone who takes a serious look at secession would conclude that its just about the dumbest idea ever. The state would have to set up everything on their own from currency production to airspace regulation. That costs tons of money. Everyone hates on big government when they are enjoying so many services that the federal government provides.

Fiction · **Posted:** Wed Nov 21, 2012 6:12 pm

Jstar1 where did you learn your American history/politics/law? We got a long just fine with state's rights without the overly controlling central government getting involved in every aspect. Most if not all founding fathers were against such an over reaching government. To the smart people saying times have changed and we shouldn't listen to those old farts... Do you really think socialism and communism are the new kids on the block? You think history didn't have tyrant to set examples?

Us haters of big government don't dislike the fact they provide a service that benefits people... We dislike the fact that service can be done better in every way by other means. Having more government in our lives has not made us better. I'm sure you're the same that goes out and bitches that gays can't marry, and corporation run things, but ask for more government... Its just stupidity..

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

There are petitions for deporting anyone that signed a petition to secede from US, and another one to strip citizenship off, lmao.
And anyone can sign the petitions regardless if the petition is about your state or not. gogogogogogog

Also most of the founding fathers were for state rights, but after being elected they pushed to increase the pwoer of the federal government. Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Franklin etc. also Alexander Hamilton, one of the biggest voices for federal power, is considered one of the most important founders, had the biggest influence on G. Washington.

Just look at the republican presidents in the 1900s. Those that supported an active fed. gov't were successful; Eisenhower (interstate highway), Reagan (fckin defense), T. Roosevelt (actually a liberal muslim communist by todays standards; progressive & broke monopolies). Now lets look at the "weak fed. gov't" presidents; Harding, Coolidge, Hoover. Did nothing at all, except ofc cause the Great Depression.

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

Fiction wrote:

You really don't know much about American law do you?

Fiction wrote:

Jstar1 where did you learn your American history/politics/law?

You're wrong about this ok? American law does not permit states to secede on their own. Theres a supreme court decision called texas vs. white where the court basically said that states do not have the right to unilaterally leave the union. This happened after the civil war ended.

Fiction · **Posted:** Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:57 pm

Jstar1 wrote:

Fiction wrote:

You really don't know much about American law do you?

Fiction wrote:

Jstar1 where did you learn your American history/politics/law?

You're wrong about this ok? American law does not permit states to secede on their own. Theres a supreme court decision called texas vs. white where the court basically said that states do not have the right to unilaterally leave the union. This happened after the civil war ended.

Where did I mention states still had the right to legally secede?

judemars · **Joined:** Dec 2012 **Posts:** 3 **Location:** Los Angeles

In the past few years, there has been a certain amount of talk and people promoting secession from the United States. Mostly, it's code for “a Democrat won the presidency and we're angry over it.” The cost of secession to the states where most individuals advocate for it would be disastrous.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

thank you for reviving the dead but it will never happen. america provides its states with a lot of stability. it will be stupid for them to leave.

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