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 Post subject: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:23 am 
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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/11/ceo-papa-john-says-employees-hours-will-likely-be-cut-due-to-obamacare/?test=latestnews

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 5:47 am 
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In August, he made national headlines after telling shareholders the Affordable Care Act — commonly known as Obamacare — would result in a 10- to 14-cent increase for customers buying a pizza.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:08 am 
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Lol. IDGAF about that. What is gay though is that I, and plenty of my coworkers, will probably be losing 10 hours a week due to Obama care.

GG Dem's. GG.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:39 am 
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**** that guy. I mean the papa ceo guy.

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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 7:45 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:53 am 
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Wow it's funny how every company has to abide by the same law but doesn't seem to be gutting hours. sooooo weird.

maybe you should work for pizza hut or dominos

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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:43 am 
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So it would appear.

Although, no hours have actually been cut yet. And hell, they may never be. But on the other hand, I have heard of quite a few companies considering doing similar things. I'll have to check my facts and shit sometime to make sure everything I heard is true, but it's 5:42 A.M. So, you know. =]


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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
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lol You're about to get hit with some bombs of economic and social justice experts.

Just another CEO who is too greedy to give his employees everything they deserve. He really doesn't deserve anything he has, everything was built on all his employees labor, and he just got lucky enough to have the idea to start a pizza business, and make it successful. Honestly if you think about it, it was really the government in the first place that allowed him to thrive. He should be giving all his profit to taxes, imo. Then the government should take that tax money and give everyone health care, so we don't have to worry about it. It's stupid that in this 1st world country we have to worry about paying for health care.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 4:38 pm 
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So this guy can't spare any $ for health care.. for his employees Eh?

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As one of his employees, I don't blame him. And I wouldn't be supprised if more and more restaurants follow suit. Effectively hurting every hard working employee out there. Again, GG.


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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
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Damn, that's epic. He sure has come a long way from when he opened his first papa johns, in the back of some other store. American dream ftw.


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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:09 pm 
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According to the news report, the company will face a new financial expense between 5 and 8 million dollars. According to Avalance's post, the company stated that prices may have to increase between 10-14c and according to the news article both price increases and employee hours reductions need to occur to cover the expense.

Now, for this calculation I shall use the highest estimated cost and the lowest estimated price increase. So bare in mind these are the worst possible recorded figures.

How many Pizza's does each Papa John's store need to sell with the 10c price increase to collectively reimburse the cost of the Obamacare project?

On the 16th of September, Papa John's celebrated opening it's 4000th store. So for the purpose of this calculation I will assume there are 4000 stores world wide.

8,000,000/0.10 = 80,000,000
This figure is the number of pizza's that need to be collectively sold within one given year with the additional 10c increase to compensate that expense.
80,000,000/4000 = 20,000
This is the number of pizza's that each individual store must sell within a given year with the 10c increase to fully recover the expense.
20,000/365 = 54.8 (rounded up to 1 decimal place)
This is the number of pizza's each individual store must sell, each day, with a 10c increase to fully recover the $8,000,000 business expense.

So roughly 55 pizzas a day. I know I'm no business analyst, but if a company isn't selling over 55 pizzas how on earth do they expect to stay afloat? Assuming the price of a pizza is roughly $10 (seems average for Australia, anyway) than that's a daily revenue stream (excluding drinks etc) of $550. Total weekly revenue of $3850. That figure would barely cover wages for a week, let alone rent and franchise fees. Of course disregarding additional revenue streams but trying to prove a point that 50 odd pizzas a day is such a small amount for a business that's main product is pizzas. Prices will fluctuate too etc etc etc, don't try to argue this point as I know I'm swinging wildly here. I'd love to get some official daily sales statistics but I just don't have them.

So by my very simple logic there's no need for all these working hour decreases, a simple 10c increase will more than suffice even the worst case scenario and, like I predicted, their opinion is more politically motivated than anything else.

/prove my terrible math skills wrong


Also, after seeing the picture of his house, I'm sure this guy can afford to fork out a few million to help his employees out a bit.


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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:15 pm 
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I shall attempt to find you some statistics from my store. Though it's not a horribly busy one. We definitly do sell more than 50 pizzas a day. Not to mention cheeseticks, cinapies, bread sticks, garlic parm bread sticks, wings, chicken strips, soda, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:16 pm 
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Lol. IDGAF about that. What is gay though is that I, and plenty of my coworkers, will probably be losing 10 hours a week due to Obama care.

GG Dem's. GG.

Lmao, I thought this thread was made to mock the guy (Papa John's ceo) but you're for real?

Just sad to see CEOs have attempting to scare the public into voting for their (CEO's) interests..

Also, Fox News.

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According to Wiki his network is around 240 million, so yeah he can spare some money, but from what people on Reddit have been saying for the last few days is that he is a cheap bastard and also an asshole.


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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:01 am 
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Looks like one of your customers need to take a pizza box and wack you across the head with it Tasdik...You're currently at the very bottom of this corporation's food chain under the heels of this rich corporate tycoon who is complaining about cutting down your hours and you're saying fuck obama?... This indeed a facepalm moment.... Like fiction says he owes his riches upon the sweat of people like you and you agree with is complaining?? wow...I'm speechless...lololol..

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 Post subject: Re: Fark you Obama!
PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:38 am 
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Budo, that post made no sense. Specifically the "you agree with is complaining". Are you high?

I should probably clarify, I actually only work like 20ish hours so it won't effect me either way. But I dislike the idea of being unable to increase that to 40, should I choose to.

Oh, and news flash, the elections are over.


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I think fiction is sarcastic? @tasdik don't complain about Obama complain about the guy who's slashing your hours to get you to look at politics differently.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:48 am 
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Here's how I look at it, in a simplified form:

Before Obama care, I could work 40 hours a week. After Obama care, I can't. And that directly effects MY lively hood. Which is what I have a problem with.


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Sounds like the owner has succeeded then since you now have a problem with Obama. Don't be a tool Tasdik

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How should I react? Should I demand that the founder pay millions if dollars out of his own pocket simply because he created a buisness? That's dumb.


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Tasdik wrote:
Lol. IDGAF about that. What is gay though is that I, and plenty of my coworkers, will probably be losing 10 hours a week due to Obama care.


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I know how it feels to get your hours chopped... Feels bad, man.


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How should I react? Should I demand that the founder pay millions if dollars out of his own pocket simply because he created a buisness? That's dumb.


No one is making him pay money for having a business. They're making him pay money to insure the people who work for him. You know. Like we do with buildings and cars and property. It's insurance...

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You should react by blaming the guy who can control your life so heavily just by not accepting a small amount of money out of his paycheck. It is after all his corporation, if he wanted you to have 40 hours a week he could have them to you directly what Obama did to help millions pissed off your employer now he's forcing it to effect you.


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Budo, that post made no sense. Specifically the "you agree with is complaining". Are you high?

I should probably clarify, I actually only work like 20ish hours so it won't effect me either way. But I dislike the idea of being unable to increase that to 40, should I choose to.

Oh, and news flash, the elections are over.


Sorry for my bad "engrish" what I meant to say was "you agree with HIS complaining".... Its OK for the owner of this pizza business to complain but you are being a tool when you agree with him.... He hires people like you to help him realize his dreams...The least he can do is work out a solution rather than fuck you guys over and using what the government does as a scapegoat reason....

When he cuts his employees hours he's basically trying to maintain the bottom line...his bottom line...maintain the rate of his earnings...And you guys are the sacrificial lambs...Does it make sense to you now?....I know you said you won't be affected but you are still arguing about it as though it bothers you a lot...

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They do know that Chik-fil-a went back on those statements and agreed to stop funding anti-gay groups?

maybe papa will follow suit and put off the extra garage until you can get sent to the hospital without going bankrupt.

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They also made a **** ton of money off of that. And still managed to make amends to the gay community. Sounds like a win-win for CFA. Get played.


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