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 Post subject: 10 Most Livable Cities
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:18 am 
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1. Vancouver, Canada
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Melbourne, Australia
4. Toronto, Canada
5. Perth, Australia
6. Calgary, Canada
7. Helsinki, Finland
8. Geneva, Switzerland
9. Sydney, Australia
10. Zürich, Switzerland

-The worst city to live on earth is Harare, the strife-torn capital of Zimbabwe.


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
PostPosted: Thu Dec 10, 2009 6:32 am 
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Subjective.

Also, source? I want to see how much bias is in these statistics.

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I don't agree with that Zimbabwe is the most city to live, how about Palestine? Baghdad?

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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Subjective, sure but it is based on the annual survey of living conditions. Both the Mercer Quality of Living Survey and The Economist's World's Most Livable Cities do not include entertainment and enjoyment, and for that reason some of the highest ranking cities aren't necessarily cities which automatically spring to mind as being the most desirable places to live.

i.e. Zürich (350,000), Helsinki (1,300,000), and Geneva (185,000) are often considered bland and boring in comparison to the larger cities of Sydney (5,000,000), Melbourne (4,000,000) and Toronto (4,700,000).


On and the source is Belfast Telegraph Newslink


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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That list was according to The Economist.
These are from Monocle, which is a lifestyle magazine.

1 Zürich, Switzerland
2 Copenhagen, Denmark
3 Tokyo, Japan
4 Munich, Germany
5 Helsinki, Finland
6 Stockholm, Sweden
7 Vienna, Austria
8 Paris, France
9 Melbourne, Australia
10 Berlin, Germany

I find it odd that one includes Canada multiple times and the other none at all. Not sure what criteria The Economist used, but according to Monocle, they based results on "safety/crime, international connectivity, climate/sunshine, quality of architecture, public transportation, tolerance, Environmental issues and access to nature, urban design, business conditions, pro active policy developments and medical care."

Economist source: http://www.economist.com/markets/rankin ... d=13809770 (registration required)
Monocle: http://www.monocle.com/Magazine/volume-3/Issue-25/ (subscription required)


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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I don't agree with that Zimbabwe is the most city to live, how about Palestine? Baghdad?


Africa is 1000 times more farked than the middle east.

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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number one should be Detroit, USA.

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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number one should be Detroit, USA.


Maybe if their football team didn't blow.


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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I'm quite sure Detroit would be no where near the top of the list.

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How about Belgium, I went there for christmas to see my brother and loved it, went to Bruxels and Gent;

Well now that I come to think of it, other than Belgium I only went to Spain... But I really liked it


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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I think the highest ranked city in the US, was Seattle at 50th.


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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That list was according to The Economist.
These are from Monocle, which is a lifestyle magazine.

1 Zürich, Switzerland
2 Copenhagen, Denmark
3 Tokyo, Japan
4 Munich, Germany
5 Helsinki, Finland
6 Stockholm, Sweden
7 Vienna, Austria
8 Paris, France
9 Melbourne, Australia
10 Berlin, Germany

I find it odd that one includes Canada multiple times and the other none at all. Not sure what criteria The Economist used, but according to Monocle, they based results on "safety/crime, international connectivity, climate/sunshine, quality of architecture, public transportation, tolerance, Environmental issues and access to nature, urban design, business conditions, pro active policy developments and medical care."

Economist source: http://www.economist.com/markets/rankin ... d=13809770 (registration required)
Monocle: http://www.monocle.com/Magazine/volume-3/Issue-25/ (subscription required)


I suspect it may be the weather.

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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I would love to live in Austria or Switzerland. Japan would be cool too..maybe.. :D


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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Fug_Dup wrote:
That list was according to The Economist.
These are from Monocle, which is a lifestyle magazine.

1 Zürich, Switzerland
2 Copenhagen, Denmark
3 Tokyo, Japan
4 Munich, Germany
5 Helsinki, Finland
6 Stockholm, Sweden
7 Vienna, Austria
8 Paris, France
9 Melbourne, Australia
10 Berlin, Germany

I find it odd that one includes Canada multiple times and the other none at all. Not sure what criteria The Economist used, but according to Monocle, they based results on "safety/crime, international connectivity, climate/sunshine, quality of architecture, public transportation, tolerance, Environmental issues and access to nature, urban design, business conditions, pro active policy developments and medical care."

Economist source: http://www.economist.com/markets/rankin ... d=13809770 (registration required)
Monocle: http://www.monocle.com/Magazine/volume-3/Issue-25/ (subscription required)


i think yours is more accurate because if the economist used that criteria Toronto public transit sucks,Vancouver is a little better but not by much. And there's quite a bit of crime in both places with Vancouver being noticeably worse than Toronto. but we all know Toronto is the center of the universe.Just ask anyone from Toronto.

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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Amsterdam, The Netherlands

everything is legal 8)


I heard that they are going to close some of the weed bars :shock:

Also FINLAND FUCK YEAH

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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Well damn, I was expecting College Park, Georgia to be on that list... :D

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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I'm quite sure Detroit would be no where near the top of the list.


If it were the worst cities, then yeah. :P

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scandinavians countries r the best i guess.
Idk why but they give me that impression, denmark, finland, sweden, norway n so on. also i would like to know how the life in [Reykavyk]<-- dunno the spelling and lazy to find the name somewhere (which is the iceland's capital or at least i always thought that NO FLAMEZ if i am wrong xD)

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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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No surprise Canada is somewhere on the list..

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Also FINLAND FUCK YEAH


lol'd. (Sauna! Fuck yeah! Kossu! Fuck yeah! Snow! Fuck yeah! Winter war! Fuck yeah! Kekkonen! Fuck yeah!...)

Not surprised by Germany and Nordic countries taking the cake.

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Also FINLAND FUCK YEAH


lol'd. (Sauna! Fuck yeah! Kossu! Fuck yeah! Snow! Fuck yeah! Winter war! Fuck yeah! Kekkonen! Fuck yeah!...)


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Italy isnt considered at all :D
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Forbes magazine rates my suburb (Fairfax) 3rd best place to live in the US, so not surprised no US cities are on there lol

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Well damn, I was expecting College Park, Georgia to be on that list... :D


Yeah maybe if they could actually arrest murderers and rapists or any criminal. :banghead:


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 Post subject: Re: 10 Most Livable Cities
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1. Vancouver, Canada
2. Vienna, Austria
3. Melbourne, Australia
4. Toronto, Canada
5. Perth, Australia
6. Calgary, Canada
7. Helsinki, Finland
8. Geneva, Switzerland
9. Sydney, Australia
10. Zürich, Switzerland

-The worst city to live on earth is Harare, the strife-torn capital of Zimbabwe.


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London has failed to make the top 50 “most live-able” cities, according to worldwide analysis by the Economist Intelligence Unit.

Canada’s Vancouver scooped the top spot having met an impressive 98% of the criteria set by the surveyors, including the quality of healthcare, culture, environment and infrastructure.

Vienna in Austria is ranked second, closely followed by Melbourne, Australia. The top 20 includes five Australian cities, three Canadian cities and two German cities.

Manchester is the only UK city to make the top 50, coming in at 46th place and beating London’s ranking of 51st place.

The poorest performing locations were Africa and Asia “where civil instability and poor infrastructure present significant challenges,” the survey found. Harare in Zimbabwe was ranked 140th out of 140 having met just 37.5% of the criteria set by the surveyors.


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