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Tell me why you think that up there is the best ^^^^
Don't say stupid stuff please, support your opinion to you best please!

We have millions off topics about this very same subject.

Mac outperforms PC in all aspects except for one big important part: gaming. I don't mean that based on compatibility and what's supported - because although inferior, mac is catching up incredibly fast - I mean that in the sense of hardware customization and tweaking.

With that said, it depends on what you're going to be doing. If you're doing graphic work and the only game you play is WoW, then a mac would be your choice. If you're into case modding, overclocking, and want to pull 10,000 FPS out of your rig to show off at lan centres, get a PC.

Im a PC person. cant stand macs. imo you can build a PC to destroy a mac for the price of a mac, theyre way to expensive for what they can do. You can spend 3500$ Usd on a mac and have maybe 10% of the gaming industry availible. or you can spend that much and build a PC that not only out preforms, but can play every game there is with maxed settings.

Price + Value = PC
Pretty + sleek + paperweight = Max

But it's not really about outperforming is it? A mac destroys a pc with the same specs. Simple as that.

Ofc a pc will be more suited for gaming, since half the industry doesn't develop for macs.

Pricy, yes they are.

PC Person

Here's and example

Case ( Coolermaster HAF 932 Full-Tower Gaming Case w/420W Power Supply Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
Power Supply ( 800 Watt -- Power Supply Quad SLI Ready )
Processor ( [=== Quad Core ===] Intel Core 2 Quad Processor Q9550 (4x 2.83GHz/12MB L2 Cache/1333FSB) )
Processor Cooling ( [New !!!] INTEL Certified Liquid CPU Cooling System kit )
Motherboard ( Gigabyte GA-EP45T-DS3R Intel P45 CrossFire Chipset w/7.1 Sound, Gb LAN, S-ATA Raid, USB 2.0, IEEE-1394 Dual PCI-E MB )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module OCZ-Gold or Major Brand )
Video Card ( ATI Radeon HD 4870-X2 DDR5 2GB PCI-Express x16 )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA )
Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE [Serial-ATA-II, 3Gb, 7200 RPM, 16M Cache] )
2nd Hard Drive ( None )
External Hard Drives [USB 2.0/eSATA] ( None )
CD/DVD Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] Sony Optiarc BR-5100S 2X Blu-Ray High Definition DVD Drive )
CD-RW/DVD-RW Drive ( [** Special !!! ***] LG 20X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive Black )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Speaker System ( 600W PMPO 3 PCS Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Floppy Drive ( None )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Keyboard ( Logitech Deluxe Keyboard Black )
Mouse ( Logitech Optical Internet Mouse Black )
USB 2.0 Accessories ( Built-in USB 2.0 Ports )
Meter Display ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( 12-In-1 Internal Flash Media Card Reader/Writer Black )
Operation System ( Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium + [Free 60-Day !!!] Microsoft Office 2007(Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint, Access ....) 64-Bit )
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner ( None )
USB Flash Drive ( None )
MP3 Player ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Headset ( None )
Power Protection ( None )
Warranty ( Warranty Service Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) No Rush, Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )
Sub Total: $1,999.00

VS



24-inch:
3.06GHz (Cores??)
2GB memory
500GB hard drive
8x double-layer SuperDrive
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS 512 MB.

2,200USD


Power for the money gos to PC!

EDIT: add 200 to the PC. it didnt save mouse keyboard + monitor in there

true shit man , TALKING ABOUT OUTPERFORM ? lul WAT

They both have their pros and cons...it depends on the perspective you look from.

Its just that Macs are overrated. All Apple products are.

I'd still take PCs over a Mac anyday

I always thought Macs were for tards.

The one button on the mouse thing just made me shiver.

+1

macs power off of baby souls, true story.

What I hate is when people claim Macs are more powerful than a PC. hahahaha are they so wrong. When u a quad running 8gb and sli 9800's against the a mac with a quad 4gb and there best crappy onboard.......... OMFG ewww. macs are for people who just want internet? but why the heck get pc. A pc CAN AND DOES anything a mac does and better. IF there is something a mac has and pc doesnt, someone will make it work on a pc ^_^
ILY PC
PC FTW
MAC FTL

Even using Macs for multmedia generation isnt as good as it on pc
^_^

Dead wrong. I live multimedia, it's what i've made my study to be, it's what my work is. Macs are made for multimedia purposes. They beat any PC when it comes to the design and production of multimedia. It's quite the common fact your blatantly ignoring in your fanboy-ish arguement. try facts next time. There's a reason for the 90-95% of mac users in the Multimedia world. idiot.

If a pc did everything better then a mac would, there wouldn't be a market for them. Design is not the only thing that sells, and current design aren;'t far apart anyways.

Try keeping it real.

These sorts of arguements is why these topics fail every single time on this board. You should take an example to foilin, he's pro pc, but making a solid arguement.

Yar Priam is right. in media generation/architectural use they are much better. im not really why, probably because the OS doesnt take as much memory as vista/xp. its all my aunt/uncle use at the architectural firm.

Priam - hahahahaa there is a lot of things out there that shouldn't be on the market, and second of all no macs arn't better, and I'm not being biast, so don't be callin names u jerk. Next pcs run multimedia generation better for many reasons. More options first of all. Media apps can be modified to run from certain areas on a pc, oh wait can a mac do that.. NO! So say I wanted to render a 3d model but i only a 1gb of ram but I had 8800, I could redirect that to my video card instead... oh wait can mac do that... NO! Say i wanted to make videos, but I had 1 mac and 1 PC, say they were both duals, and 8600's and 2gb of ram, there was a timing test running adobe premier, the time for them were 11 for the same video on mac, and for the pc it was 7 minutes? well who wins that one? hmmmmmmmmm PC! now u can crawl back in ur lil whole and cry urself back to sleep cuz I just won that one!

And no Admins im not enforcing my opinion on ppl, I'm givin them facts
But i dont want this to turn into a flame war so lets be nice after this post ^_^

I prefer PCs but I wouldn't mind having a Mac laptop for their simplicity/ease of use.

The last time I used a MAC was 5 years ago, so I just voted for PC.

Just because they are more simple in design and monotone in color doesnt make a Mac easier to use...another overrated thing about Macs. How user-friendly can a product get? If you're still having trouble using a PC, there is something seriously wrong with you. Its the 21st century - who doesnt know how to use Windows?

You're not giving anyone facts. Your transferring thats disease which destroyed all your braincells to us.

By your rediculous attempt to put the ball in my court again, i can tell you've never even touched a mac. By your example with premiere, i can tell you know little about Multimedia, let alone the entire sector.

You've won nothing, you've just proven to only be open for your own opinion, and neglected the opinions of thousands of (multimedia) professionals in the world. Congratulations on that. Does it make you feel proud? Or is there this tiny part of your brain, which does actually believe there must be a reason for the overwelming presence of macs in the Multimedia business. For your sake I hope so.

A tiny request, in your next post, which I presume will be another 'winner', press enter a couple of times, it makes forums easyer to read.




That's actually an interesting point. We're getting somewhere. I was very surised to see my mom figuring a Mac out sooner then a PC. Not that one example fits all. But she blew me away by doing so.

Considering all the headaches I've had with other laptops, I can see myself using a Mac one to browse the internets and stuff with. Doesn't mean they're better than my desktop.

BTW, Priam you aren't giving anyone facts either, you're just pimping Macs without anything to back it up but your "word" as a multimedia designer.

I'm not pimpin macs at all. Not as a general. I'd take a PC over a mac for many things.

I just happen to know a mac offers way more when it comes to Multimedia design. Sales figures in that area back me up on that.

Sales figures just prove that people buy Macs, doesn't say much about what they're actually good for.

I'm sure a lot of people went to see Twilight too, but then it ended up sucking ass in the end. And they probably regretted it.

I personally don't think it can be a point. Neither Windows or Apple can make their products fly without it being user-friendly to a certain extent. Thats a must, and both seem to be easy to use in their own ways.

Ok well im gonna jump into this with a few points.

I myself would take a PC over a Mac.

When i see a PC i see it as something that i can pretty customize from every single option down to something as simple as the BIOS. To ME this is better then a Mac which i don't think there is alot of customizable options (modding, hardware etc) Thats why i voted for PC.

However as standard alot of the new Macs are having pretty hardcore hardware, which almost makes then a serious contender to PC's chokehold on the Gaming market. Just need to wait a while for more games and apps to be ported over to Mac.

My next point is a question and is directed at Priam. You say that for Multimedia use, Macs are alot better. What does that mean? Because for me when i use Photoshop, Vegas, Reason and other programs for Multimedia i get lightning fast results from my PC (thanks to my hardware i guess). What makes Macs any better?

Oh yeah and i just remembered. Mac wins my vote when it comes to desktop appearance over Windows anyday Even though i myself use Vista. Ive pretty much customized it to look just(or close enough to the real thing with my own twist) to that of Leopards interface. Ill post a pic of it a bit later.

That is all

+1.

I was actually going to agree with Reise, and was going to do a little research to back up my points, but I just proved to myself that macbooks aren't even worth having.
I was going to say I wouldn't mind a macbook because I travel a few weeks out of the year, and it would be nice to have a lighter laptop, albeit the fact they are WAY overpriced. But I only need a laptop for internet really (assuming I had a desktop, that is)

But you see, macbooks are WAY overpriced, they are 1300 dollars for their lowest end model, and guess what? My computer cost me $250 dollars, and all my specs are the same or better than the macbook (although I think my graphics card might be less, I don't know the order in which nForce and GeForce graphics were released, in any case, my graphics are just about par, they may even be better). Well, let's be fair here though, I did go out and spend $40 dollars on 2 GB ram, so that makes me computer $290 dollars. But still, $290 vs $1300? I'd take my computer ANY day.

Also, I hate people saying macs are easy to use, the only people that should say that (if anybody at all) should be apple and mac fanboys, because they aren't easier to use, simple as that.
In my old school, we ONLY had macs, and you know what? They were no easier to use at all, in fact, they were just annoying, because if I wanted to get options on anything, I had to "apple click" it, which by the way, is a blatant copy of right click. So for all you people saying "windows stole apple's GUI", well, apple stole windows right click.

And by the way, that GUI stealing is the stupidest argument of all time. If you were a computer maker, and you saw this absolute revolution which would make it so that everybody would want a computer, would you say "nah, I won't do that as well, I'll just stick with my text based user interface, even though clearly this graphics based one is much better, you know what, I'll just leave that to them so my computer company will die out faster than shit"?
No, you wouldn't.

So anyways, I was gonna say I can see why some people might like a mac laptop, but for the price, they are simply not worth it, not even close.
By the way, my computer is also lighter than the macbook.

Only thing that can be considered good about mac is the OS, but I prefer windows anyways, only thing good about the mac is the small footprint.

But you know what? Mac will always have the ability to have the OS, because when they're making the OS, they ONLY have to have it work with like 3 or 4 different computers, which are all made in almost the exact same way.
Whilst for Windows, they have to make the OS work on hundreds of computers, which are all made it totally different ways, they even have to make the OS work seamlessly with touch screen interface.

So yeah, mac will have the abililty to always have the better OS, but windows will ALWAYS be more versatile.

Well said.

topics like these should be locked, and not talked about... just a flame war it seems every time.

Its not flaming. Its called Opinion and Disscusion. If you dont like to it the gtfo.