Hey guys, I got a lil` question. Is it true Ichigo will have a second hollow transformation? I mean, a second mask, different than this one, and much stronger? O.o
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Hey guys, I got a lil` question. Is it true Ichigo will have a second hollow transformation? I mean, a second mask, different than this one, and much stronger? O.o
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Misaki Kurosaki a.k.a. Kirio Hikifune was the 12th division captain and became a Royal Guard, together with another RG Isshin went to a place where others least find the Royal Heir(prince),Earth.
Together they disguise themselves as a family, not long and both RG really did fell in-love and became a real family together with there new 2 daughters, Yuzu an Karin.
When the Grand Fisher tried to lure the seemingly normal child Ichigo, Misaki could have easily defeat the Hollow but it would mean compromising their cover as a normal family,so she sacrifice herself to protect her family, she also love Ichigo and want him to have a normal life but if she transformed into a shinigami in-front of him it could complicate things.
Unfurtunately destiny is not that easy to escape as Ichigo meet Rukia......
The reason why only Urahara knows of Isshin being a shinigami is because in the past Isshin discovered that Urahara is investigating the Royal Family which leads to Urahara creating the thing inside Rukia( the key that will reveal the location and identity of the King, who is now Ichigo )
The King's power is to pull out the hidden power inside a soul or a person, creating the first shinigamiand the first Hollow(power pulled out fom a soul) but Chad and Orihime is different as they are still living that is why they have Hollow-like powers. One of Orihime's fairies said that they were born because of Ichigo. Ichigo probably done it unconcoiusly.
This is the reason why Ichigo has a Hollow and Shinigami power.
After watching all the anime episodes and reading the remaining manga chapters everything past Grand Fisher makes no sense/is incorrect. The item hidden in Rukia's gigai you're talking about is the Hōgyoku. Aizen wants to use the Hōgyoku to create the King's Key, which would open the gates to the Spirit King.
Also about Inoue and Chad/Sado. If I remember correctly his reiatsu had some effect on them in the beginning, as well on most of his friends (Tatski, red haired lesbo girl etc). After his spiritual/soul reaper form and something else was totally destroyed by Byakya, Urahara trained him, so he'd awaken his own powers. When he left him in the hole for 3 days he started the hollowfication, which was the birth of the third soul, the hollow Ichigo (other two are Ichigo and Zangetsu). Now with the hollow soul inside him and Inoue & Chad hanging around with him more often, his hollow reiatsu had effect on them, therefore they were able to develop those powers (this may be wrong as well, I can't remember if they gained their powers before or after the hollowification).
Also, for Ichigo being the Spirit king. To get to the Spirit king you must posses the King's key. If you think about it, if he really is the Spirit king, why would anybody need the key to get to him? Makes no sense at all. I also can't imagine that the author wanted the main character to be the Spirit king.
Ichigo was born from a human mother(Masaki Kurosaki) and a Shinigami father (Isshin Kurosaki), so he was born with the potential to become a Shinigami. However his true heritage was not revealed until the Arrancar Arc, so it can be assumed Kisuke's method of forced Encroachment along with the natural version could cause any soul with sufficient spiritual power to gain Shinigami powers and/or turn into a overwhelming hollow.
During Urahara's time in the Research Institute, an answer was sought on how to strengthen an individual's soul, the answer being for a Shinigami to gain Hollow powers through Hollowfication. This led to the development of the Hōgyoku, though once he had created it, Urahara immediately placed a seal upon it when he understood how dangerous it was.
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Bleach ~
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王様の回想から The King's Reflections かつて王だった王様いきなり３人のオールバック。糸目。盲目 が参上 Aizen, Gin, and Tousen visit Barragan. 王 おお～暇で暇でしょうがない所によくきた～お前らが来なかったら 自分の軍を２つに分けて戦争でもしようとしてた所だ～ Barragan: You come so often you must have too much free time. If you didn't come you might have divided your own army in two and tried to wage war. オールバック この刀をみてくれ Aizen: Look at this sword. 王 なんだ～？ Barragan: What? オールバック ここから俺についていけば～色々かえてやるぞ～ Aizen: If you follow me from now on I'll change many things for you. 王 貴様の作る世界などいらん～ Barragan: You didn't create this world! オールバック あなたの世界はもうこんなですよ？ Aizen: Your world is already this way. 糸目と盲目に部下たちを一瞬で瞬殺されている世界になり Gin and Tousen quickly kill his subordinates. 王服従＞＜ Barragan submits. しかし オールバックを殺すのはワシ常にお前の命を狙ってやる～ However, he swears he will always try to kill Aizen 俺が王なんだ～お前を殺すのはこのワシ！！！ アイゼンソウスケ！！ "I am the King! I will be the one to kill you, Aizen Sousuke!!" と絶命後ろで消滅してる王様に見向きもしないオールバック He dies but Aizen completely ignores him. スターク Ｎｏ２が死んでも一言も無しか… Stark: He doesn't say a word even at the death of #2. ハリベル … Harribel:... スターク やるせないね～ 弔い合戦じゃないですがこちらもそろそろはじめますか～ Stark: What a downer. This isn't a battle for revenge, but am I finally going to begin too?
っていった所で完です あんま進まないね；； It ends there. The story doesn't progress much.
Naruto ~
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背表紙は カツユ The Jump spine this week is Katsuyu
復讐がすぐ近くにいると怒りで冷静さをかけたサスケがジュウゴのいう事も 聞かず雷影に特攻しギャル男の水遁の壁ができるやつで吹っ飛ばされ＆雷の術も流される Sasuke, angry that he is so close to getting revenge (and that people are now in his way), loses his cool and ignoring Juugo’s warnings attacks Raikage straight on. Shii uses suiton to create a wall of water and sends Sasuke flying back (while Raikage uses his raiton to run current through the water and Sasuke).
ギャル男 情報どうりあいつは雷の属性もちだな Shii comments that according to their information Sasuke is a raiton user. イケメソ 火遁も直で使うらしいから水遁での防御は怠るなよ Darui replies that Sasuke can also use katon so Shii should not let up on the suiton defensive techniques 水月 あれれ…サスケの情報漏れまくってんじゃん Suigetsu comments that information about Sasuke has been leaked out everywhere.
イケメソが動きを止めますと 電幻雷光柱（太陽拳みたいなもん） Darui says that he will stop their (Sasuke and his team’s) movements and uses a genjutsu called “Dengenraikouchuu” (which apparently looks like Tenshinhan’s Taiyoken from Dragonball)
ジュウゴはもろに幻術をくらいサスケが雷影にぺしゃんこに押しつぶされる Juugo totally eats the genjutsu and Sasuke is about to get crushed by Raikage
幻術を食らうがサスケが解をし雷影の一撃を水月が受け止めるがその際首切り包丁が 真っ二つに折れ腕が粉々にされる（水なんでダメージはなさそうだけど） They get hit with the genjutsu but Sasuke dispels it. Right as he dispels it Raikage is about to hit Sasuke when Suigetsu jumps in and takes the hit. When Suigetsu takes the hit, however, it snaps the Zabuza sword in two and smashes Suigetsu’s arm to little watery bits (he’s made of water though so he probably isn’t permanently damaged).
水月 こいつの一撃が半端じゃない俺じゃなかったら腕の骨がぐちゃぐちゃだよ… サスケ 余計な事を＞＜ Suigetsu comments that Raikage’s attacks are really strong and if it were anyone else taking the attack their arm would be torn up. Presumably Sasuke doesn’t like this extra little comment provided by Suigetsu.
会議室へ The scene changes to the Meeting Hall
これから我々はどうする～青はダンゾウの見張り～土影は待機～お供の女は デイダラ兄をやったサスケをみてみたい～アンパンは土影のおもり～ガアラはまだ答えがでてなか ったような気 が＞＜ All the kage are discussing what they should do now~Ao (the Byakugan guy) will watch over Danzou~The Tsuchikage is just going to stay behind and wait~The girl who was with the Tsuchikage comments that she wants to see Sasuke, the guy who defeated Deidara~The big guy with Tsuchikage who looks like Anpanman will stay behind and look after Tsuchikage~It doesn’t seem like Gaara has given his answer yet~
んでサスケへ戻り The scene changes back to Sasuke
イケメソ そういえばもう一人いたな～そいつを探すから後は頼むギャル男 Shii tells Darui that he’s going to go find the remaining Sasuke team member (Karin) so he’s leaving the rest up to Darui.
ジュウゴ あいつが感知タイプか先にやらないとな Juugo realizes that C is a sensing type ninja so they have to take care of him first.
ジュウゴが呪印タイプ２になり殺人衝動むき出しのタイプになり 殺してやるぜ～！！！ Juugo goes cursed seal 2, the killer freak out type, and says “I’m gonna kill you!!!”
雷影 図にのるな～！！ っと突っ込んだ所で完 Raikage tells Sasuke and Juugo not to get cocky!!
End of chapter.
ナルトは今回一回も出てきませんでした。 Naruto does not appear once in this chapter.
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カリンはシーに見つかっちゃやばいと思って火影を探す探知をやめ チャクラを消します Karin, thinking it would be very bad if she were spotted by C, stops using her abilities to track the Hokage and instead hides her own chakra.
戦闘は ほとんど一方的だからね～ ダルイに吹っ飛ばされその後シーの幻術 幻術 サスケが解いて シー さすが写輪眼！ ！ ! ！ ! The fight is mostly one-sided this week with Sasuke getting knocked back by Darui’s technique and then getting followed up by C’s genjutsu. Sasuke dispels the genjutsu to which C comments, “That’s the Sharingan for you!!!”
解いた瞬間に雷影のパンチを水月がとめ ダルイの刀はジュウゴが止める Right as Sasuke dispels the genjutsu, Raikage punches (and is stopped by Suigetsu) and Darui swings his sword down (which is stopped by Juugo)
その後 会議室で ガアラが他の五影に あんたらはいつ己を捨てた？ After that, Gaara asks the other Kage in the meeting room about when they threw away their sense of self (rose above themselves or gained such self restraint)?
それを聞いた水影が 純粋な子 水影 土影は 生意気な小僧め *Upon hearing this, Mizukage thinks, “what a pure child” while the Tsuchikage thinks, “what a rude brat”.
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Well to think better of Naruto characters they are similar, for example: 1. Kakashi, Obito, Rin 2. Orochimaru, Jiraya, Tsunade 3. Sasuke, Naruto, Sakura
To me all of them are quite similar, just need to notice. Although they may have different abilities they are same as their superiors. But i think it's interesting... Thing about Sasuke, I think he still cares about his friend Naruto, because he even admited Naruto as friend/rival. Warning for those who isn't reading manga, spoiler below to protect your eyes from spoiling content
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I think sasuke would get back to konoha after he killed Itachi if he didn't knew what Itachi did for his vilage. After all Itachi did cared about his little brother, and he removed Sasuke's seal and even gaved his eye to him that he could obtain Eternal Mangekyou sharingan. That was interesting story in manga. Now i think Sasuke and Naruto will have same relationships like Orochimaru and Jiraya...
Anyhow, this new filler is so enjoyable. By the way ending rocks so much, it has nice concept, nice idea of zampakutous standing next to their owners. One of my fav endings
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Bleach ~
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ハッチがバラガン倒したのみてラブたちもやる気だ Love and Rose have a spirited conversation after seeing Hacchi defeat Barragan. ローズはいちいちボケかましてる Rose is confused. ラブ、できれば俺たちが先に肩をつけたかった。 Love: I wanted to catch him earlier, それは仲間を亡くしたあとの戦いは弔い合戦になるから。 because after his comrade died he'll fight for revenge. ローズ、でもスタークはそういうタイプに見えないというと、 Rose: But Starrk doesn't appear to be like that. ラブ、みえねーから怖いのさ。 Love: He's frightening for that reason.
奴が仲間が死んで揺らぐならそのスキを、仲間の死で怒るならそれをブチまける前に叩く Attack while he's trembling at his comrade's death, before he gets angry and lets loose. どのみち先手必勝と言って始解して戦闘、スタークを叩きつける。 Love adds that victory goes to the one who makes the first move. He goes shikai and strikes Starrk. 動きがニブっている。揺らぐタイプだったかとラブ。 Love says Starrk's movements are slowing and asks if he's the "trembling type."
スタークと銃の子の会話 Starrk has a convo with his gun (Lilynette). 銃の子、ボーっとしてないで弔い合戦しろ！情けないと愚痴る。 Gun: Don't be an idiot and fight for revenge! Shameful! スターク、ガラじゃないし、あいぜんサマも俺ら助ける気ねーよアレ、 Stark: They aren't the last ones, and I don't feel like helping Aizen-sama, too. あいつら強いし、戦ったらまた誰か死ぬからもうかえって寝よーぜとやる気なし。 They're strong. If I fight, then after someone dies I'm going home and going to sleep. 銃の子、あんたは1っていう自覚持て！カッコつけて本気やろうとしない！あいぜんサマが1番くれたのはあん たの力信じてるからだろ！ Gun: Remeber you're the #1! You have to look cool and not so serious! Aizen gave you the #1 because he has faith in your strength! 仲間が死んで減るのが嫌ならあんたが戦うしかないだろ！っと叱咤する You have to fight because you're upset that your comrade was killed. その言葉に・・・それもそうだと応える。 The convo continues in similar fashion.
再び戦闘開始するとラブが仮面をだして火吹の小槌（ひふきのこづち）って技で叩きつける。 When the battle resumes Love dons his mask and uses the fire blowing mallet (Hifuki no Kozuchi). 辺り一帯のビルやら地面がガレキの山に。 Nearby buildings become a mountain of rubble. 気配が消え、探してると上だ！とローズ Starrk vanishes. They search for him and Rose yells to look upward. . 上を見ると大量の狼を従えたスターク They look up and see Starrk followed by a pack of wolves.
で次号 That's all until next chapter.
狼に穴は確認できないというか正面からなのでわからない＆虚っぽくないです I can't confirm if the wolves have holes. From the front I can't tell and they don't seem like hollows.
Naruto ~
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簡単に General (summary)
シー サスケェの幻術にハマる Shii gets caught up in Sasuke's genjutsu
雷 しゃりんがんごとにハマらんは！ Raikage: Don't get caught up in the Sharingan!
じゅうごは つえー Juugo's way strong
ナルトとトビの話: Naruto and Tobi talk:
憎しみがサスケェの忍道だ！ Hatred is Sasuke's ninja path!
雷vsサスケェは決着まだつかない。 The conclusion to Raikage vs. Sasuke hasn't come yet
憎しみがサスケェの忍道だ！ Hatred is Sasuke's ninja path!
これはナルトが言う。 Naruto says that
Summary of the talk between Naruto & Madara:
Madara tells them the truth about Itachi. They say that he's lying. Madara denies lying however, saying that if they're to talk about Sasuke, telling the truth about Itachi was unavoidable. He says that Sasuke's a true avenger. Naruto accuses Madara of being the one who made him that. Madara says that it was Sasuke's own choice. He doesn't deny though, that it was a gamble of his own whether Sasuke would follow Itachi's will or not. He says what Sasuke's target is what Itachi desired, what the Uchiha clan desired - revenge on Konoha. Naruto asks why Sasuke would be so bent on revenge. Madara says that it can't be helped, as hatred is the Uchiha clan's destiny. They're cursed from since long before to walk a path of hatred. Naruto asks what he means by "cursed".
Madara says that it goes back since the time of the Six Path Hermit - that was when it all started. Kakashi says that the Sixth Path Hermit is just a fairy tale. Madara says that it's true though. He says that the Hermit sought to guide the world to peace and for that purpose gave his powers to his two children. The elder brother got the power of the "eye", and the power of chakra and energy of the mind as well as the belief that power was needed to pacify the world. The younger brother got the power of the "body", the strength of mind and the energy of the body as well as the belief that love was needed to achieve peace. After that, the Hermit died and the true successor wasn't determined. But from that moment on, the curse of hatred had been created.
Naruto asks what he means by that. Madara says that the youngest saw himself as the most fitting, while the oldest saw himself as the natural successor and from that moment on they were never quite able to reach an agreement and their battle of hatred began. The older brother's lineage became known as "Uchiha", whereas the younger brother's lineage bacame known as "Senju". He says that the conflict between him and Senju was fate. He also tells Naruto that even though this is only the second time he has meet him, he can see that Senju's Will of Fire resides within him. In Naruto, he sees the First Hokage. He says that eventhough he's dead, he's still alive in a sense. He says that he admired Senju, his rival, but also hated it the most. Senju and Uchiha, The Will of Fire and Hatred, Naruto and Sauke.
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