Israel and the Gaza

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

^Good.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Israel continuing their settlements in the West bank is some bullshit, really makes u reconsider any support you would have for them otherwise (which is really not much anyways)
Why isn't palestine a member state already?

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

Aristocrat wrote:

fireworks and rockets isnt the same thing.

just a side note. I'm a pure arian, I'm not a muslim, so don't bla bla about it.

Iran is such a threat to humanity, I agree with media

Whose the dipshit that made that picture? Because it is unbelievably misleading.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

^Yeah, esp. cause the current religious extremist regime took power in 1979..and US was kinda of, you know, involved in the cold war (assuming those dates are correct in the first place, im not sure about why anyone would be bombing tibet for 15 years..)

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

TheDrop wrote:

Israel continuing their settlements in the West bank is some bullshit, really makes u reconsider any support you would have for them otherwise (which is really not much anyways)
Why isn't palestine a member state already?

because palestine is not a country as such. its a group of different religious governing bodies that act together in some respect.
i dont see palestine as a country at all similar to the "native americans" was the collective name for all the different clans and sub clans of people that originally lived there.

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

I just noticed the occupy london sticker on that picture. These dumbass anarcho-hippies don't seem to know shit about history.

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

penfold1992 wrote:

TheDrop wrote:

Israel continuing their settlements in the West bank is some bullshit, really makes u reconsider any support you would have for them otherwise (which is really not much anyways)
Why isn't palestine a member state already?

because palestine is not a country as such. its a group of different religious governing bodies that act together in some respect.
i dont see palestine as a country at all similar to the "native americans" was the collective name for all the different clans and sub clans of people that originally lived there.

LOLOLOLOL

heroo · **Joined:** Sep 2006 **Posts:** 6618 **Location:**

amount of retardness in this thread is now over 9000.

/thread

cya

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Strwarrior wrote:

LOLOLOLOL

whats so funny? u think palestine is a country? or are the countries called "Gaza" and "west bank"

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

penfold1992 wrote:

Strwarrior wrote:

LOLOLOLOL

whats so funny? u think palestine is a country? or are the countries called "Gaza" and "west bank"

Please tell me you are not serious..

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Palestine is not a country.
http://geography.about.com/od/political ... inenot.htm

palestine does not have the foundations to call itself a country. its a collection of territories and settlements ran by different organisations.

palestine is not a country and never has been in my opinion. Israelis are the rightful citizens of Israel gaza and the west bank and they should be greatful israel hasnt blown them into the history books 5 years ago let alone now.

TheDrop · **Joined:** May 2008 **Posts:** 7150 **Location:** uefa2012

Erm so if palestine doesnt desere to be a country, waht is israel then? artficially created by Britannia..

Also stop justifying Israel & palestine as US & native americans. Its not exactly a positive comparison..

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

TheDrop wrote:

Erm so if palestine doesnt desere to be a country, waht is israel then? artficially created by Britannia..

Also stop justifying Israel & palestine as US & native americans. Its not exactly a positive comparison..

israel have a much more advanced structure as a country then palestine. Also Palestine is seperated into two parts, the west bank and gaza so who runs the palestine country, both of them? I dont think that would settle very well with hamas considering they dont even realise what a stupid move it is to attack israel, a much stronger nation.

Also what is "not positive" about comparing israel and palestine and us and native america?
is it israel and palestine conflict not positive? or the fact native americans dont really exist any more because americans killed them?

the comparison was between native americans being a collection of clans that was not governed by one single "native american leader" they also had disputes with territory

woutR · **Posted:** Sun Dec 02, 2012 1:28 pm

Palestine is a country, they are a people. They are not in any way comparable to fragmented clans scattered over vast territories like in the US. They all share the same religion, culture, language, ancestry etc and that's why you shouldn't compare them to native Americans who have different languages, religions, territories and cultures.
Also, just because you think Israel has a "more advanced structure as a country" (wtf is that even supposed to mean?) it does not give that state any more right to be a state than Palestine. In international law you're already qualified as a state if you have a territory, population and international recognition. Palestine has all 3 of those so you can lay off the debate about it being an actual country because it is.

Aristocrat · **Joined:** May 2012 **Posts:** 354 **Location:** Sweden

I don't really get the discussion that's taking place here, Sure I understand there are problems there, doesn't make it right to bomb a football pitch and kill innocent people, all humans that arent militaries shouldnt be affected by politics.

I can't see how people think it's ok to kill normal middleclass workers. On any side. Israel or Palestine.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

woutR wrote:

Also, just because you think Israel has a "more advanced structure as a country"

Quote:

There are eight criteria accepted by the international community used to determine whether an entity is an independent country or not.
A country need only fail on one of the eight criteria to not meet the definition of independent country status.

Palestine (and I shall consider either or both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank in this analysis) does not meet all eight criteria; it fails somewhat on one of the eight criteria...

8. Has external recognition. A country has been "voted into the club" by other countries.

No. Despite the super-majority of United Nations members approving United Nations General Assembly resolution 67/19 on November 29, 2012, giving Palestine non-member state observer status, Palestine is not yet eligible to join the United Nations as an independent country.

While dozens of countries recognize Palestine as independent, it has not yet attained full independent status, despite the UN resolution. If the UN resolution had allowed Palestine to join the United Nations as a full member state, it would have immediately been recognized as an independent country.

Thus, Palestine (nor the Gaza Strip nor the West Bank) is not yet an independent country. The two parts of "Palestine" are entities that, in the eyes of the international community, have yet to obtain full have international recognition.

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6. Has a government that provides public services and police or military power.

Somewhat. While the Palestinian Authority is permitted to provide local law enforcement, Palestine does not have its own military. Nonetheless, as can be seen in the latest conflict, Hamas in Gaza does have control of a extensive militia.

If you count hamas' human shields and random wreckless attempts by people living in gaza to bomb israel as a "militia" i guess they dont fail that one either.

palestine arent scattered around? west bank and gaza are separated and run under different rule.

same religion, culture, language, ancestry etc
america, australia, canada and england are the same country. they have the same religion, culture, language and ancestry.

Jstar1 · **Joined:** Mar 2007 **Posts:** 4757 **Location:**

penfold1992 wrote:

america, australia, canada and england are the same country. they have the same religion, culture, language and ancestry.

You have officially raised the stupidity of the discussion by one unit of stupidity

Aristocrat · **Joined:** May 2012 **Posts:** 354 **Location:** Sweden

Jstar1 wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

america, australia, canada and england are the same country. they have the same religion, culture, language and ancestry.

You have officially raised the stupidity of the discussion by one unit of stupidity

thought it was at max already.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Aristocrat wrote:

Jstar1 wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

america, australia, canada and england are the same country. they have the same religion, culture, language and ancestry.

You have officially raised the stupidity of the discussion by one unit of stupidity

thought it was at max already.

Now it's just over the top.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Jstar1 wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

america, australia, canada and england are the same country. they have the same religion, culture, language and ancestry.

You have officially raised the stupidity of the discussion by one unit of stupidity

-whispers- i think i was trying to make a point about what woutR said but it appears that sarcasm isnt so obvious even when it clearly is -whispers-

XemnasXD · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:03 am

penfold1992 wrote:

Jstar1 wrote:

penfold1992 wrote:

america, australia, canada and england are the same country. they have the same religion, culture, language and ancestry.

You have officially raised the stupidity of the discussion by one unit of stupidity

-whispers- i think i was trying to make a point about what woutR said but it appears that sarcasm isnt so obvious even when it clearly is -whispers-

but you just showed you know nothing about America, Australia, Canada, The UK or anything at all really.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

well done, now you can see why it was sarcasm!

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

penfold1992 wrote:

well done, now you can see why it was sarcasm!

Just stop before u make it worse

Baconz · **Posted:** Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:24 pm

this fits well to this thread

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/egyptia ... christian/

Strwarrior · **Joined:** Oct 2008 **Posts:** 3799 **Location:** ....

Baconz wrote:

this fits well to this thread

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/egyptia ... christian/

It makes me laugh when some people believe such stuff lol

*BlackFox · **Joined:** Sep 2008 **Posts:** 7923 **Location:**

Oh lulzy lulz! ^
Well, "tomatoes" are good for you.. Just saying

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

Baconz wrote:

this fits well to this thread

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/egyptia ... christian/

Lol. The shape of the cross has existed way before some people decided to make it a religious symbol.

Oh no. Tomatoes are all templars. We need to uncover their plots and kill all of them if we wish to have freedom.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

Quote:

and says that Allah is three

um... is three what?
I know muslims believe "Allah is one" and people have joked by saying "Allah is two" but the joker knows it doesnt make sense to say someone is two...
the number two? two bananas? two hats? two what?!

also, the nazi symbol was not a bad symbol before the nazis used it and nor was the salute.

whatever a tomatoes is, its yummy.

omier · **Joined:** Aug 2006 **Posts:** 5985 **Location:** ...

penfold1992 wrote:

also, the nazi symbol was not a bad symbol before the nazis used it and nor was the salute.

Neither is it now. A symbol in itself is never good or bad, it's just what it represents that makes the difference. And people seem to forget that.

penfold1992 · **Joined:** Apr 2007 **Posts:** 4060 **Location:**

yeah, i see these signs (especially on the zelda game that had a dungeon in the shape of the swastika) and its just a image that some people find good (swastika actually means "to be good" or "being with higher self") the western world sees it as a nazi symbol yet the eastern world see it as a hindu symbol.

i feel the same with words too. words arent offensive theyre just a combination of sounds, its the way you say the word that makes it offensive.

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