Time For A Change?

cin · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:59 pm

dom, i agree with what you just said; especially with the part about the AC
growth lately. do you guys think it would help if we would assign one of the
other mods to share the responsibilities of the AC with reK? it might take
some of the work off his hands.. just a thought.

edit: if anybody replies to this.. just so yall know, ill be at a party tonight
so my response will be late =_=. ill discuss this matter with the other mods
too.

dom · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 9:41 pm

cin wrote:

dom, i agree with what you just said; especially with the part about the AC
growth lately. do you guys think it would help if we would assign one of the
other mods to share the responsibilities of the AC with reK? it might take
some of the work off his hands.. just a thought.

edit: if anybody replies to this.. just so yall know, ill be at a party tonight
so my response will be late =_=. ill discuss this matter with the other mods
too.

It would have to depend on which mod. Like I said, the good ones are few and far between.

[SD]Master_Wong · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 10:03 pm

id like to add something more to this discussion, has anyone except my silly response tried to fufil his request?

cin · **Posted:** Sat Aug 25, 2007 11:52 pm

[SD]Master_Wong wrote:

id like to add something more to this discussion, has anyone except my silly response tried to fufil his request?

back from party

well, kj stated in this topic that this was more a discussion if he should change
his avy/sig theme, or if he should stick with his ninja figure. he told us that,
if he would want one of us to make him a sig, he would put it in the request
sticky. that was after somebody told him that he should put this in this sticky
for every other member should do the same

and i thought your respons was serious

0l3n · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 12:10 am

How was the party cin?

And yes I do think you should make a new one key-j.

Snudge · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 4200 **Location:**

Cin, it won't help if there will be a mod assigned to watch this part of the forum as well, besides their 'own' sub-forum. I say we would have to assign a new mod, someone who is active here, shows leadership and capability of such a responsbility.

rek · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:24 pm

dom wrote:

Key-J wrote:

Well, this took another turn didnt it.

reK is leadar in the AC, what he says goes now k?

Riz, i can't remember saying that. Im not saying that i didnt, however i just don't remember doing it. You got a link by any chance?

reK hasnt mentioned anything about adding a Sub-Forum to the AC. (To The Best Of My Knowledge). If it's necesary, it could be arranged.

We take care of you guys, and we appreciate the sigs you guys provide. I mean, they really are stunning. We understand that some of you just come to the AC, or the forums. I mean, some of you started SRO only after coming to the AC.

Anyway, back on topic.

This thread was just, you know asking for suggestions if i should change the sig. If request needs to be made, i would have gone through the sticky. If it was designed for that purpouse then so be it.

So, you think i should stick with the Theme. But give it a new edge? O.o

Now to be a personal attack or anything, but I think there's a problem of competence. I've never liked the idea of having a 14 year old run a board with dozens of active members.

As a mod he should of already cleaned up the stickies, added an index, fixed the sig request situation, set up collaborations and offered to help out with the AC artists group thing.

You can say that SRF as a whole is not an art forum and events should not be required, however the ARTISTS' CORNER section is.

Being part of an administrative team should not be about whether or not you post nice messages, are popular, or make nice sigs. In general, this forum has problems with administration, competent mods are few and far between; especially the ones fom thehelper.net that we see once a month.

If you're a mod and reading this and you feel like you're doing a good job then this wasn't for you. For the most part, i'm just expressing frustration about mods that will never read this post. It's something that has been bothering me for a long time: at SRF it seems like the only required task from a mod is to lock bot generated messages that have links to porn sites.

Again, reK, don't take it personally. I don't have any problems with you as a person; maybe the problem with AC is just that it has grown so active in the past couple weeks that one person isn't enough to mod it.

I just hope that the thread about me in the mod's private forum doesn't get revived, my frustration is caused by a genuine desire to see this forum live on.

Ohh, ok. I'll pm Sui to demote me.

BrokenSaint · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 1:38 pm

No demotion is not necessary but we definitely need someone to help reK out. Besides, he's only 14 and you can't handle the AC 24/7 if you go to school. I wouldn't mind trying out for mod, but It's the decision of SG and probably the majority of the AC.

Key-J · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:11 pm

reK wrote:

Ohh, ok. I'll pm Sui to demote me.

No, why should you?

So, i started moding when i was 16. Now im 17.

Whenever i spoke to reK, i always found him to be well spoken, educated and mature. Before he said he was 14, i always thought of him as older than me.

Look, i wana just say. Whatever the problem with the AC is. We will deal with it, but first we have to establish it. Now, i asked you to PM reK with the issues, but why not PM me as well. There is already an ongoing discussion amongst us. So, lets try to keep it as that, n out of the thread. Its gone off track long enough...

N now i have a feeling that this thread will move down further, since people were more interested in what was being said than the topic at hand and if that does happen, i think you hardcore AC officionatos should take another look at yourself, and what youve written...

0l3n · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 2:39 pm

Im still waiting for your sig key-j.

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 6:55 pm

dom, while your post was well-worded, well-structured, and raised valid issues, publicly calling someone's abilities as a moderator into question based solely on age is in bad taste. if you have a problem with the way the AC is being run, you know the proper channels through which to go in order to have that addressed. when have i ever ignored a concern of yours?

f the AC needs help, it will have help. I agree that adding the AC to a mod's list of duties is a bad idea, so if another mod is what the AC needs, then it should be a mod who is devoted entirely to the AC.

i feel like i say this all too often, but i would really appreciate it if people who have genuine concerns or grievances would please think before posting them publicly. it reflects poorly on both you and the person you are criticizing.

Snudge · **Joined:** Jun 2006 **Posts:** 4200 **Location:**

Sui, I'd like to add that if we get an extra mod for the AC[and perhaps the request-part of the AC*hinthint*], it should be someone who comes here more then often. I wouldn't want some random dude from the GD or the OTL come here and mod. I would like him/her to be we all know.

Snudge out.

dom · **Posted:** Sun Aug 26, 2007 8:23 pm

SuicideGrl wrote:

dom, while your post was well-worded, well-structured, and raised valid issues, publicly calling someone's abilities as a moderator into question based solely on age is in bad taste. if you have a problem with the way the AC is being run, you know the proper channels through which to go in order to have that addressed. when have i ever ignored a concern of yours?

f the AC needs help, it will have help. I agree that adding the AC to a mod's list of duties is a bad idea, so if another mod is what the AC needs, then it should be a mod who is devoted entirely to the AC.

i feel like i say this all too often, but i would really appreciate it if people who have genuine concerns or grievances would please think before posting them publicly. it reflects poorly on both you and the person you are criticizing.

My reputation is already nil, i'm just happy the issue has been addressed. As I mentioned, it was not to be taken personally. It's just one of the things I called into question; I question the reflexion that is made to decide who becomes a mod. To be more explicit, how do people from a forum almost none of us been to, come here and mod a forum (once a month) that they care nothing about? It was more of an easy entry into the issue than a personal attack. And to add to what snudge said, the only mod that is active on this board, other than reK, is Cin. However, a new mod does seem called for, as long as it's not someone we don't know, who cares nothing about what we want to accomplish as a group.

And as for the other venues of communication: I rather give a cheap blow to the front, than a quick backstab to the back. When I post, I post to provoke. My reputation is worth having if it eventually brings realization and change. You may believe that it reflects poorly on me, but within days it has become an issue recognized by many, and an important issue to the moderating team. Weve had problems in AC for a long while, they're finally getting noticed.

reK, i'm sorry if you felt targeted. As I said before, if you feel like you're doing a good job, then you are. Should a mod feel guilty after reading what I wrote, then it's that particular mod that isn't doing their job.

SuicideGrl · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 2:55 pm

the AC will have another mod, and it WILL be someone from the AC. i wouldn't dream of adding someone from elsewhere on the forum, that wouldn't make any sense whatsoever. i have a few ideas in mind already.

dom · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:24 pm

Good to see that's moving along. Shall we celebrate by looking at pictures of my melons again?

0l3n · **Posted:** Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:27 pm

dom wrote:

Good to see that's moving along. Shall we celebrate by looking at pictures of my melons again?

Partey!!!

Dystopia · **Joined:** Jan 2007 **Posts:** 2317 **Location:**

Key-J wrote:

Well,

Im feeling like a change you know, what you guys think? Is it time my little ninja went to rest? n i whip out something new?

What do you guys think it should be? Like theme wise, or char wise, or anything wise. I am your canvas. Hahaha

Hopefully i can whip up a good sig myself. Even though it wont be comparable to thy might Artist Corner godz XD

Eghhh, all arguments aside, ill be happy to make you a sig, but I need a little more description, like a theme and a render maybe that would help..

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