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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:48 pm 
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Hunter nerfs were A LOT more heavy handed then I had first anticipated. 700DPS just gone in a flash. I don't like MM or Surv much though so I dunno if my hunter will see the light of day until the changes get reversed a bit.

As such, I'm now leveling a warrior and enjoying it immensely so far.


they werent that nice for MM either. I moved a few talent points and changed my rotation a bit to attempt to counter it. Doing heoric OS soon to see the full extent of the nerf

I tried to adjust my spec but I only made it worse. I'm not in the best of gear, but I was pulling 2.2k in H UK last night. Tested on a dummy tonight and I was down 700DPS, which is depressing when all you do mainly is DPS. So now my friend is annoyed because I can't do anything effectively now on my hunter because Blizzard really farked up this time. =[

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Necrobat wrote:
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Hunter nerfs were A LOT more heavy handed then I had first anticipated. 700DPS just gone in a flash. I don't like MM or Surv much though so I dunno if my hunter will see the light of day until the changes get reversed a bit.

As such, I'm now leveling a warrior and enjoying it immensely so far.


they werent that nice for MM either. I moved a few talent points and changed my rotation a bit to attempt to counter it. Doing heoric OS soon to see the full extent of the nerf

I tried to adjust my spec but I only made it worse. I'm not in the best of gear, but I was pulling 2.2k in H UK last night. Tested on a dummy tonight and I was down 700DPS, which is depressing when all you do mainly is DPS. So now my friend is annoyed because I can't do anything effectively now on my hunter because Blizzard really farked up this time. =[


We can also CC!

but i think ive probably only trapped 2 mobs since wotlk was released... And one of them broke early...

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 2:55 pm 
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LK has been all AoE pulls.

Which we can't do well now.

Lets single target!...

Nope, can't let you do that either.

CC?

not needed.


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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 3:23 pm 
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doing 4000/5000+ dps, minus 700 now, you're still ok. Shush.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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doing 4000/5000+ dps, minus 700 now, you're still ok. Shush.

Oh yes, because I'm totally decked out in 25 man gear mirite?

I was only just getting started into heroics, and losing 700DPS from 2.2k to a single target is a huge blow.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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doing 4000/5000+ dps, minus 700 now, you're still ok. Shush.

Oh yes, because I'm totally decked out in 25 man gear mirite?

I was only just getting started into heroics, and losing 700DPS from 2.2k to a single target is a huge blow.


Screenshots please.

Cause there's no way n hell your only doing 1400 dps all of a sudden becuse of this nerf. Or your doing something horribly wrong, spec/rotation wise. Might look beyond BM, MM, SURV etc.

You need to work with it.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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i only do 2.1k dps on boss dummy =[

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Yeah yeah, nerf DK's like you nerfed warlocks, make it a useless class :/


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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:10 pm 
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Yeah yeah, nerf DK's like you nerfed warlocks, make it a useless class :/

It's just a small nerf for now... Did they implement 15 minutes cooldown on return as a ghoul yet? :D

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Wed Jan 21, 2009 11:59 pm 
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Locks aren't useless... just highly specialized.


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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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doing 4000/5000+ dps, minus 700 now, you're still ok. Shush.

Oh yes, because I'm totally decked out in 25 man gear mirite?

I was only just getting started into heroics, and losing 700DPS from 2.2k to a single target is a huge blow.


Screenshots please.

Cause there's no way n hell your only doing 1400 dps all of a sudden becuse of this nerf. Or your doing something horribly wrong, spec/rotation wise. Might look beyond BM, MM, SURV etc.

You need to work with it.

No, it's because I'm BM, so pets got HEAVILY nerfed, and Steady Shot, the most cost effective shot, got heavily nerfed as well. I'm not speccing otherwise because quite frankly, I do not like the playstyle of MM or Surv and shouldn't be shoehorned to have fun.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Locks aren't useless... just highly specialized.


yay someone else thinks as i do, iv only ever played lock on retail servers, i didnt like the other classes i tried on pservers lock is my true love, if i have to choose another its mage its lock without mass dot and pet just insane dps from other casts

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 3:50 am 
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DK Nerfs werent nearly as bad as i thought they were.
I still dominate :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 4:20 am 
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I'm sure 16 death says more than your 9 killing blows, not like BG stats say a lot anyways.

Apparently arenas are disabled now because of problem in rating calculations, was wondering why I gained nuts for rating whenever I win and lose tones when I.. um lose.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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I'm sure 16 death says more than your 9 killing blows

Killing blows mean nothing imo. The other group were full of 69 warriors, death knights and seemed like a premade. And its my damage you should look at. Just because i didnt get the killing blow, doesnt mean i didnt do well. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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eww, alliance

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 10:55 am 
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Mage nearly 72. It's still too easy.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Alliance are all underage scene whores? I think ill stick to the horde thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:41 pm 
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Alliance are all underage scene whores? I think ill stick to the horde thanks.


Oi you :<

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Alliance are all underage scene whores? I think ill stick to the horde thanks.


Oi you :<


He's nuts :/

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Alliance are all underage scene whores? I think ill stick to the horde thanks.


Oi you :<


He's nuts :/

Least we ain't nerdy.

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When did 'scene' on urbandictionary get changed to some emo ranting about how they want to be loved?


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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:56 pm 
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Mage 72, and some bars into it. Done in Borean, apart from the dungeon quests.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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I WANT MAH ARENA BACK.

BG is pointless, the winning factor can only be two, number of DKs and Paladins on a team, and number of idiots in a team.

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Dk pallys are killable, you just gotta be more careful about how you blow cooldowns and how you use heals.


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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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Dk pallys are killable, you just gotta be more careful about how you blow cooldowns and how you use heals.

Yes they are, but on a large scale battle, having to kill most players where they have 2 lives (bubble and ghoul) can really slow down your side when pushing especially.

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Thats why alliance are number one. :D

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 8:08 am 
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DK's make people stupid. It's true. They've read somewhere that DK's are not able to be defeated, and that has made them be idiot. They're not even trying anymore, carelessly blaming DK's for every defeat. Same goes for pally's but on a smaller scale.

That my friends, is retarded.

DK's push you to pay more attention, yes. Undefeatable? No. I have no problems with DK's, most are idiots anyway.

In BG's, i'll take out every DK I see, invis if they gang up, only to punch them in the face later.

There are very little 'good' DK's, take advantage of it.

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 Post subject: Re: For Wow Players.
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DK's make people stupid. It's true. They've read somewhere that DK's are not able to be defeated, and that has made them be idiot. They're not even trying anymore, carelessly blaming DK's for every defeat. Same goes for pally's but on a smaller scale.

That my friends, is retarded.

DK's push you to pay more attention, yes. Undefeatable? No. I have no problems with DK's, most are idiots anyway.

In BG's, i'll take out every DK I see, invis if they gang up, only to punch them in the face later.

There are very little 'good' DK's, take advantage of it.



Well, during my quests I never ever see only 1 dk questing. Always in groups of 2/3/4/5 raping shit in sight. It's as if it's not enough they get an imba char that never needs to stop .. doesn't need too worry about pulling. It's damn right pathetic IMO.

Hope, if Blizz release a new Hero class that it'll be a support char that isn't meant to solo all quest content with quest gear. : <

On a side note, got my epic flying + swift flight ^^ God damn, I love camping people in hellfire who try and cap those towers ... fly above them .. wait till they stand still .. swoop down behind them .. shred / mangle /mangle / mangle / f.bite .. then fly away again once dead ;d <3 ittt.

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